White Borders

ranord

Hi,

First of all I've not ordered a print from Smugmug but I'm going to be doing so soon.

I typically print my images with a 1"-2" border on the longest/widest side. I mat the image so the mat opening is larger than the image.

If I wanted a 20x30 print but the image was just 16x24, lets say, would EZ Prints upsample the image or would it print 16x24 on the 20x30 paper or ??. I know I could pad the image by enlarging the canvas, as an option.

Thanks in advance.

Roger

ranord

bump

(i wanna order a print)

Andy

we'll print the size you order.
Remember about bleed/trim, please:

http://www.smugmug.com/help/bleed-trim

ranord

Andy,

I did read that which led to my confusion and the scenario I mentioned.

I don't want the images I order cropped nor printed to the edge of the paper. So I assume the only way to guarantee that this doesn't happen is to resize the canvas with the necessary white border.

Thanks

StephaneB

ranord wrote:

Andy,

I did read that which led to my confusion and the scenario I mentioned.

I don't want the images I order cropped nor printed to the edge of the paper. So I assume the only way to guarantee that this doesn't happen is to resize the canvas with the necessary white border.

Thanks

I was about to post a question about the same thing. I am only at the host/printer choice, trying all the usual suspects. I only just realized I'll have to produce file with a white border to allow for framing and cutter tolerance.

It also implies to create seperate galleries for the gadgets (T-Shirts, mouse pads, mugs...) because for those a white border would not work at all. Hmmmm, the more I think about it, the more complicated it gets. I just thought that if I setup a gallery for gadgets, the "buy this photo" invitation becomes confusing for a customer, and it seems to be not that easy to change. What to do?

LiquidOps

StephaneB wrote:

I was about to post a question about the same thing. I am only at the host/printer choice, trying all the usual suspects. I only just realized I'll have to produce file with a white border to allow for framing and cutter tolerance.

It also implies to create seperate galleries for the gadgets (T-Shirts, mouse pads, mugs...) because for those a white border would not work at all. Hmmmm, the more I think about it, the more complicated it gets. I just thought that if I setup a gallery for gadgets, the "buy this photo" invitation becomes confusing for a customer, and it seems to be not that easy to change. What to do?

I believe this is solved simply by enabling "Proof Delay"

Steven

bham

LiquidOps wrote:

I believe this is solved simply by enabling "Proof Delay"

Steven

Good idea. Upload the image set for sale, if someone orders a large print, replace with an image with the border then hit ship it. But how long to wait to replace it with the original image with no border.

StephaneB

LiquidOps wrote:

I believe this is solved simply by enabling "Proof Delay"

Steven

Not quite.

This is the story: I go to a family for a new birth shooting. They order the same photo in medium and large size for framing, some for announcement cards and a few mugs to boot. Unmanageable without different files for the different formats, unless I shoot the pictures with wastable space to begin with. Even so, not really optimal, is it?

I begin to understand why other services allow multiple files for one photo, depending on the output format/size. That's probably the only workable approach.

On the other hand, the above scenario will not happen to me very often.

The white border and proof delay approaches must be OK for fine art, which is my main thing, but leaves me skeptical for events and family shots.

Andy

StephaneB wrote:

Not quite.

This is the story: I go to a family for a new birth shooting. They order the same photo in medium and large size for framing, some for announcement cards and a few mugs to boot. Unmanageable without different files for the different formats, unless I shoot the pictures with wastable space to begin with. Even so, not really optimal, is it?

I begin to understand why other services allow multiple files for one photo, depending on the output format/size. That's probably the only workable approach.

On the other hand, the above scenario will not happen to me very often.

The white border and proof delay approaches must be OK for fine art, which is my main thing, but leaves me skeptical for events and family shots.

I'm not really understanding - maybe it's me - but it seems like you're overcomplicating things. But hit me again with the "why" and I'll try help furher for sure.

StephaneB

Andy wrote:

I'm not really understanding - maybe it's me - but it seems like you're overcomplicating things. But hit me again with the "why" and I'll try help furher for sure.

I use a Canon 5D, which has a native format with 3:2 proportions.

Say the customer wants an 8x12 picture for matting and framing. Printing it on 8x12 paper is not appropriate, because the matte will hide the borders. So, suppose I provision for a file that would print on a 11x14 paper with an 8x12 photo in the middle by enlarging the canvas. Problem solved for 8x12. But now I have a photo with a funny display in the gallery. And the next customer wants a 12x18 photo, also for framing. Again, printing on 8x12 paper does not work because the matte will be over the photo border. But now my file that I prepared for 8x12 cannot work for this case, because the next suitable paper size will be 16x20 and it has different proportions and the borbers will need to be different in order to provide a 12x18 photo on that paper.

Is it clearer now?