My first post...

Grumpy_one · December 2, 2007

Cant have a first post without a sample of my one of my photo's. Dont have SmugMug, so here is a link to a page I did real quick.
http://home.comcast.net/~grumpy232/Digital_grin.htm
So my first questions are:
What's a good exif viewer?
Whats the best way to upload photo's here, Smugmug?
Thanks, and I'll be proud to post more past photo's.

Zanotti · December 2, 2007

Really, really cute photo of a very happy boy!

Get a Smugmug account, its really the best way. You will find you love the service and ability to share with friends and family. I have two!

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Z

Grumpy_one · December 2, 2007

First pic on Dgrin
Here's the original

Here's the photoshop'd one

I've looked at some of the other sports photo's here, this one of my son doesn't seem as crisp or sharp as the others. Camera, lens or settings?
I looked at these: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=77779
These are extremely sharp!

Grumpy_one · December 2, 2007

Cant forget this one
Can't forget this one:D

grassy · December 2, 2007

So how did you remove the colour of your second pic but retain your son in colour ?

Very neat !

Ian.

Skippy · December 2, 2007

Grumpy_one wrote:

Can't forget this one:D

I see your son spends a lot of time with both feet off the ground

Those are excellent shots of Kyle.

Your selective colour shot is great, Kyle looks like he is jumping out of the image.

Welcome to Dgrin Grumpy_one, enjoy the forums, and keep posting

.... Skippy

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Zanotti · December 2, 2007

These are great shots! Add a little sharpening in PS and they really pop!

Lots of tutorials on Digital Grin on how to make your photo's pop and how to do selective sharpening. Just click tutorials on the links bar and read them - they're taught by the masters!

Z

Option1 · December 2, 2007

Agree with Z, they are great shots, but IMHO do need a little more pop as Z has shown.

Neil

Frog Lady · December 2, 2007

cute shots Grumps

Is your son always that exuberent? If so, a soccer field for him to spend lots of time on is a good thing (speaking from experience

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If you don't mind the C&C, in addition to a little sharpening and "popping", while you're PSing, you might rotate the image just a touch to bring it back to straight (both look tilted to the right some) and if you crop in a potrait mode, then you focus the viewer in on your son (or what ever action) more.

would love to see more.

C.

Grumpy_one · December 3, 2007

Frog Lady wrote:

cute shots Grumps Is your son always that exuberent? If so, a soccer field for him to spend lots of time on is a good thing (speaking from experience )

If you don't mind the C&C, in addition to a little sharpening and "popping", while you're PSing, you might rotate the image just a touch to bring it back to straight (both look tilted to the right some) and if you crop in a potrait mode, then you focus the viewer in on your son (or what ever action) more.

would love to see more.

C.

Dont mind the C&C, what are kidding?

I wouldn't have posted them otherwise.

Don't worry, I have plenty more to post!! (and learn!)
Ok, while we're at it....

So am I learning?

grassy · December 3, 2007

You first one on this group is your best by far..the last is kinda over processed...

This is one of the traps of photoshop that I have noticed...the pic looks great in ps but when you pull it up in a jpeg viewer, it is not quite the same...I found this to be a worse problem when shooting RAW and processing with lightroom.

BTW, don't forget to calibrate your monitor.

You never explained how you were able to do a clean block and return the same block to a b/w background...I did read the tutorials and this wasn't explained.

Finally, he looks like he is having a scream !

Ian.

Grumpy_one · December 3, 2007

grassy wrote:

You first one on this group is your best by far..the last is kinda over processed....

I thought the same thing

grassy wrote:

This is one of the traps of photoshop that I have noticed...the pic looks great in ps but when you pull it up in a jpeg viewer, it is not quite the same...I found this to be a worse problem when shooting RAW and processing with lightroom.

BTW, don't forget to calibrate your monitor.

You never explained how you were able to do a clean block and return the same block to a b/w background...I did read the tutorials and this wasn't explained.

Finally, he looks like he is having a scream !

Ian.

Here it goes tutorial style:

In photoshop pick polygonal lasso

Go around the image to remain colored to be cut

Cut image (ctrl c, or edit cut)

Go to image, adjustments, hue/saturation

Adjust the saturation to -100

Paste image back in (ctrl v, or image paste)

Use zoom tool to get an area to make the alignment easier, arrow keys help fine adjustment

You're done!

Enjoy

grassy · December 3, 2007

Slick !! cannot wait to try..didn't think the magic wand could cut that cleanly.

Thanks !
Ian.

mercphoto · December 3, 2007

grassy wrote:

Slick !! cannot wait to try..didn't think the magic wand could cut that cleanly.

I, too, would have tried the magic wand instead of polygon tool. New idea to try. But as far as cutting and pasting goes, 'tis better to duplicate the layer, do your selection, then add a layer mask to conceal what you selected, then desaturate the layer. By keeping it in two layers (one for color, the other for black and white) and using a mask it gives you flexibility in the future to adjust, make changes, etc. In other words, you don't throw away any information by using layers and masks. You do when you cut and then paste.

Grumpy_one · December 3, 2007

mercphoto wrote:

I, too, would have tried the magic wand instead of polygon tool. New idea to try. But as far as cutting and pasting goes, 'tis better to duplicate the layer, do your selection, then add a layer mask to conceal what you selected, then desaturate the layer. By keeping it in two layers (one for color, the other for black and white) and using a mask it gives you flexibility in the future to adjust, make changes, etc. In other words, you don't throw away any information by using layers and masks. You do when you cut and then paste.

I always have the original file to work with, I'll always save it as something else. Of course my method is as simple as it goes, not much of a photoshop guru.....yet

. Most of my work has been done in Fireworks and Dreamweaver, now that I have purchase my first DSLR, photoshop is becoming a dear friend.

Dbl · December 3, 2007

In even easier way is once you have the subject selected with whatever tool you use go to the menu bar, Select-->Inverse. Everything outside your selection is what is now active. Now go to Image-->Adjustments-->Desaturate and you are done.

grassy · December 4, 2007

Either way, it is quite hard to capture a complex object..with the polygonal lasso, you need to trace the object..with the magic wand, you have to use the shiftkey and be very careful to to have teh area extended outside the object you are trying to copy...unfortunately, my hands are not that steady...

perhaps by copying the laqsyers and erasing what you don't need...will try this..

Ian.

mercphoto · December 4, 2007

grassy wrote:

Either way, it is quite hard to capture a complex object..with the polygonal lasso, you need to trace the object..with the magic wand, you have to use the shiftkey and be very careful to to have teh area extended outside the object you are trying to copy...unfortunately, my hands are not that steady...

perhaps by copying the laqsyers and erasing what you don't need...will try this..

EXACTLY! If you do what I suggested, using layers and maks, you can make your selection and do the selective coloring. Then if you find you made a mistake in the edges of your selection this is not a problem. Simply go to the mask layer and paint (either white or black) on the mask to hide or show more of the background. You cannot do this, making corrections to your selection process after the fact, unless you have a layer and a mask.

grassy · December 4, 2007

OK, I am going to need some help here...maybe the cold is starting to freeze the 'ole brain cells

I took a pic....made a couple of new layers ..desaturated one..then started to work on the other...when I modded that layer..the actions transferred to the other layer...

The item I am wanting to stay in colour is quite complex..any easy way of cutting it out ?

Would you mind doing a step by step ?

Thanks
ian.

mercphoto · December 5, 2007

grassy wrote:

OK, I am going to need some help here...maybe the cold is starting to freeze the 'ole brain cells

I took a pic....made a couple of new layers ..desaturated one..then started to work on the other...when I modded that layer..the actions transferred to the other layer...

The item I am wanting to stay in colour is quite complex..any easy way of cutting it out ?

Would you mind doing a step by step ?

Thanks
ian.

You weren't using a mask on any of the layers, correct? That is your problem.

beetle8 · December 5, 2007

Slective color

grassy wrote:

So how did you remove the colour of your second pic but retain your son in colour ?

Very neat !

Ian.

mask Layers in ps or corel
search selective color I'm sure there are tons of tutes
Edit-
OK I didn't see page two of the thread
copy the image and work on the copy
Duplicate layer
now desaturate the layer copy
Now in layers select "new mask layer show all" I haven't been in PS in a while so this may be slightly different
Now on the mask you paint "black hides white reveals" so if you have desaturated the top layer and you paint over the boy with black "or is it white?" the bottom layer will show through and reveal the color.
This method "the layer mask method" is cool for all sorts of things

Both of these were done with layers

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