Low level fly bye. For BIF fanciers

ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
edited March 11, 2005 in Wildlife
BIF =Birds in Flight my new acryonm and I want full credit if it has not been taken yet.:D

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And another
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Taken this morning.

HarryB are you reading? Or anyone else who has this type of experience.

Black headed birds how do you get the detail to come out in it.
Shot Raw? Over expose? both ?
I sure find it tough.

Cheers,
Tim

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  • ridetwistyroadsridetwistyroads Registered Users Posts: 526 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    I love the drama in the first one, with wing extended. But I love the streamlined, cruise missle feel of the second. Great captures, both! clap.gif
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited March 11, 2005
    Outrageous! All hail the King of BIF. :D
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited March 11, 2005
    Shakey wrote:
    BIF =Birds in Flight my new acryonm and I want full credit if it has not been taken yet.:D

    17293770-L.jpg



    And another
    17293774-L.jpg


    Taken this morning.

    HarryB are you reading? Or anyone else who has this type of experience.

    Black headed birds how do you get the detail to come out in it.
    Shot Raw? Over expose? both ?
    I sure find it tough.

    Cheers,
    Tim
    Superb shots Tim!!

    Yeah, you just gotta shoot RAW so you can caapture the white feather detail. But don't overexpose - mine were just slightly under - you don't want to blow the highlights - you can recapture a stop or so then in RAW .thumb.gif
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    What is it? Looks about the size of a mosquito?

    ginger

    Very nice, and I agree re the black and white, and the stop action, the capture, etc. Is very difficult for me, I have never gotten a mosquito. I find it difficult to get the big ones.
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  • ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    Superb shots Tim!!

    Yeah, you just gotta shoot RAW so you can caapture the white feather detail. But don't overexpose - mine were just slightly under - you don't want to blow the highlights - you can recapture a stop or so then in RAW .thumb.gif
    Thanks PF I guess I should not put off buying a 1gig card and start shooting raw.

    Tim
  • ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    ginger_55 wrote:
    What is it? Looks about the size of a mosquito?

    ginger

    Very nice, and I agree re the black and white, and the stop action, the capture, etc. Is very difficult for me, I have never gotten a mosquito. I find it difficult to get the big ones.
    Ginger
    This bird is
    Black-billed magpie Pica hudsonia

    Identification Tips:
    • Length: 18 inches
    • Large, striking bird
    • Black sturdy bill
    • Long, iridiscent tail
    • Black head, breast, back, rump and undertail coverts
    • White belly
    • Iridiscent wings with white patches in flight
    • Dark legs
    Smart annoying thiefs that get into your garbage bags, steal the dogs food and general terrorist.They are top rate scavengers.


    Tim
  • ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    Angelo wrote:
    Outrageous! All hail the King of BIF. :D
    Hehe thanks Angelo

    Tim
  • ShakeyShakey Registered Users Posts: 1,004 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    ridetwistyroads wrote:
    I love the drama in the first one, with wing extended. But I love the streamlined, cruise missle feel of the second. Great captures, both! clap.gif
    Cool I thought the same . I have missed these shots so many times I was glad to nail a couple shots at least.


    Tim
  • snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    Great shots Tim
    That's wonderful the way you were able to focus on him in motion. I have never succeeded in doing that. Of course I don't have a BIG lens either. Hehe

    The little devil sounds like our scrub jays. They hang around and eat all the bird seed, then move on to the dog food. The mocking birds are pretty bad too. They are mean!!

    Love your bird shots in general. You do an excelent job. thumb.gif
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    Shakey wrote:
    BIF =Birds in Flight my new acryonm and I want full credit if it has not been taken yet.:D

    HarryB are you reading? Or anyone else who has this type of experience.

    Black headed birds how do you get the detail to come out in it.
    Shot Raw? Over expose? both ?
    I sure find it tough.

    Cheers,
    Tim
    Hey Tim,

    BIF, I like that and you get all the credit for it. Great captures, you really caught the action.

    Those guys are impossible to expose for, the dynamic range between their black and white parts is just too much. I shoot RAW and expose for the white parts. I would convert two versions of the shot, one for the highlights and one ofr the shadows; copy one and paste it as a layer mask over the other copy.
    Harry
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  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    I agree tim.. supberb.. wonderful even.. clap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
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  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited March 11, 2005
    Man I wish I could pan like that! got lots of practice with the big glass to be able to stop BIF's like that!

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    Erik
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited March 11, 2005
    snapapple wrote:
    That's wonderful the way you were able to focus on him in motion. I have never succeeded in doing that. Of course I don't have a BIG lens either. Hehe

    The little devil sounds like our scrub jays. They hang around and eat all the bird seed, then move on to the dog food. The mocking birds are pretty bad too. They are mean!!

    Love your bird shots in general. You do an excelent job. thumb.gif
    It is not easy to focus correctly on the bird in rapid flight in front of a colorful contrasty background as opposed to an open blue sky. I suspect Tim can support this stement also. I don't know the focal length this was shot with, but longer glass is not always more help either.
    Once again, Shakey, very nicely done!!

    I wonder if a little fill flash could have filled in a little more detail in the black of the birds? Otherwise, Harry is right and it will take two images from a single RAW image, combined in layers to display all the details.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    What works here, and I noticed it in Pathfinder's shots but hadn't posted yet, is the background. A bird in flight against the sky is somewhat interesting. A bird in flight against a bokeh background is infinitely better.

    Your first shot is outstanding, not only bcause you made a good exposure and got a crisp focus, but also because of the lovely background that sets the bird off perfectly. Nice stuff.
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited March 11, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    What works here, and I noticed it in Pathfinder's shots but hadn't posted yet, is the background. A bird in flight against the sky is somewhat interesting. A bird in flight against a bokeh background is infinitely better.

    Your first shot is outstanding, not only bcause you made a good exposure and got a crisp focus, but also because of the lovely background that sets the bird off perfectly. Nice stuff.
    But that nice contrasty background that looks so good OOF, will seduce your autofocus into focusing on it unless you are Very careful - I speak from a number of frames of experience .rolleyes1.gif
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  • John MuellerJohn Mueller Registered Users Posts: 2,555 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    Nice captures BIF Man:D
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  • davevdavev Registered Users Posts: 3,118 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2005
    Shakey wrote:
    BIF =Birds in Flight my new acryonm and I want full credit if it has not been taken yet.:D

    And another

    Taken this morning.

    HarryB are you reading? Or anyone else who has this type of experience.

    Black headed birds how do you get the detail to come out in it.
    Shot Raw? Over expose? both ?
    I sure find it tough.

    Cheers,
    Tim

    Nice shots. I haven't got any real good BIF pics (yet), I'm hoping when the
    weather gets better I can.

    dave.
    dave.

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