new option for portable power?

dangindangin Registered Users Posts: 458 Major grins
edited January 17, 2008 in Accessories
i just came across this bad boy and was thinking that it might make a great portable power source for my strobes. i'm no electric whiz and have heard some stories about people trying to use portable power sources with their strobes with less than desireable results. anyone's thoughts on this?

http://www.duracellpower.com/powerpacks/powerpack-600.asp

powerpack-600.jpg
- Dan

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  • dangindangin Registered Users Posts: 458 Major grins
    edited January 16, 2008
    jlw wrote:
    At about $130 (per Amazon) it might be an interesting alternative to lugging a generator. However, I notice from the spec sheet that it weighs 58 lbs!... so, not exactly ultraportable.

    no. it's heavier than most strobe battery packs for sure. but this may provide a heckuva lot more power as well. double duty as a power source to charge your AA and camera batteries as well as jump start your car. :D
    - Dan

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,156 moderator
    edited January 16, 2008
    What you need to power studio electronic flash units is called a "pure sine wave" inverter.

    Since these Duracell units don't say what they are I believe they are probably "modified sine wave" inverters, which will "not" safely power most studio flash units or other delicate electronics for that matter.

    The Alien Bee "Vagabond" portable power supplies do use a "pure sine wave" inverter technology and are safe to use.

    http://www.alienbees.com/VIIsystem.html

    Trust me, I burned up a TV/VCR unit trying to power it using a "modified sine wave" inverter. There is no way I would trust a cheap inverter on my monolights.

    (I don't own Alien Bee anything but they have done their homework.)

    An inverter that might work safely, but I have not tested:

    http://webtronics.stores.yahoo.net/30pusiwa12vd.html

    Yes, you would still need a deep discharge battery to run the inverter, but splitting the weight might be a good idea.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • dangindangin Registered Users Posts: 458 Major grins
    edited January 17, 2008
    ziggy, i believe you're right; the duracell unit puts out a modified sine wave. according to the spec sheet:

    AC output power (max. continuous) 480 W
    AC output power (5 min) 600 W
    AC output surge capacity (peak) 960 W
    AC output voltage (nominal) 120 V
    AC output frequency 60 Hz
    AC output waveform Modified sine wave
    Inverter no-load current < 0.20 amps (battery drain with no load on inverter)
    Inverter low-battery alarm 11.0 V
    Inverter low-battery shutdown 10.5 V

    so it sounds like a no go for the strobes.
    - Dan

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  • Shane422Shane422 Registered Users Posts: 460 Major grins
    edited January 17, 2008
    Here is a review of another option for a portable power source that is also a sine wave converter.
    http://www.studiolighting.net/roduct-review-innovatronix-tronix-explorer-xt/

    They actually have two versions that are $250 and $350
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,156 moderator
    edited January 17, 2008
    Shane422 wrote:
    Here is a review of another option for a portable power source that is also a sine wave converter.
    http://www.studiolighting.net/roduct-review-innovatronix-tronix-explorer-xt/

    They actually have two versions that are $250 and $350

    Thanks Shane. Here is their home page:

    http://www.innovatronix.com/
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,156 moderator
    edited January 17, 2008
    Note that all of these portable power units "may" have problems with modern digital studio electronic flash units. The reason is that studio flash units are normally designed for line voltage from household outlets. Normal house current can tolerate short periods of very high draw, something that some studio type flash "require" for proper operation.

    The portable power units are not designed to handle these high current surges and will only provide a more regulated power output.

    The results of using a high drain on a regulated power supply can be a momentary drop in voltage and that can cause the flash unit to reset instead of charge, meaning the flash unit never charges.

    Be sure to contact your flash manufacturer before purchasing a portable power supply to determine suitability of your units.
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • rwellsrwells Registered Users Posts: 6,084 Major grins
    edited January 17, 2008
    I have, and use the Vegabond power units. They are top notch. Very portable, and the new ones, Vegabond II, are 3 times as fast as the original ones. Yep, you can power 2 strobes with one Vegabond II unit and still have faster recycle times than if you used one of the original units, one for each light.

    Sold the original ones and replaced with the newer units.


    Get it, you won't be sorry thumb.gif
    Randy
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