A rare schmoo sighting

zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
edited January 24, 2008 in People
It doesn't happen often.

In fact, many experienced schmoo hunters have gone years without catching as many full faced shots.

I was able to get 3 "keepers". I'm not so happy with the skin-tones in "Smirk" and I'm still VERY new to shooting people, so any and all C&C would be appreciated!

Thanks for looking.

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Face Forward
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Smirk
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Travis

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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2008
    Those "O" hits in your stats - don't worry, they're just me naughty.gif
  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Those "O" hits in your stats - don't worry, they're just me naughty.gif

    Harumph!
  • gluwatergluwater Registered Users Posts: 3,599 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2008
    It sure looks cold in these. I think you almost liked it in that last shot. You're trying so hard not to smile, or you're keeping your teeth from chattering. One of the two. These sort of remind me of on the verge, well at least the uncomfortable subject part. Miss you two iloveyou.gif . Now I have no one to talk cameras with :cry.
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2008
    gluwater wrote:
    These sort of remind me of on the verge, well at least the uncomfortable subject part.

    rolleyes1.gif Hmmm thanks, sweetness! Next time I'll lip synch to some Finnish pop music for ya. :D

    I was trying not to run and hide. The general knee-jerk reaction to seeing a large shiny lens aimed my way. We'll see our Nick again soon, don't worry! biggrinbounce2.gif
  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,934 moderator
    edited January 22, 2008
    I like the lighting in these. Very nice.
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  • CantfeelmyfingersCantfeelmyfingers Registered Users Posts: 531 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2008
    hi there,
    i too like the lighting of your subject and the lovely blue backround; however, I do feel like your subject is much too far to the right of the frame.. and I'm definitely one for different compositions; it's just a tad too much for my liking.
    "Take my picture, Tonight I feel beautiful..."
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  • stirfrystirfry Registered Users Posts: 242 Major grins
    edited January 22, 2008
    Schmoo ~ cute hair, great frames; I'm glad someone finally got you in his sights and shared you with the rest of usiloveyou.gif

    I'm not sure why, but on the 2nd I'd almost prefer her other eye be more in focus than the eye towards the right edge. Maybe just because of the composition, I don't know.

    I like the blue background, and I really dig the composition (far right) of all three (mostly the 1st and 3rd). I have issues taking pictures of people with glasses; I think you mastered the skill well in these shots.
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Those "O" hits in your stats - don't worry, they're just me naughty.gif

    Whew, I was worried I'd left those unlocked :D
    Travis
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    gluwater wrote:
    It sure looks cold in these. I think you almost liked it in that last shot. You're trying so hard not to smile, or you're keeping your teeth from chattering. One of the two. These sort of remind me of on the verge, well at least the uncomfortable subject part. Miss you two iloveyou.gif . Now I have no one to talk cameras with :cry.

    Maybe she's just on the verge of killing me :D

    And it was chilly, but not that bad, we were still in MD when I took these.
    Travis
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    ian408 wrote:
    I like the lighting in these. Very nice.

    Just nice late-afternoon sunlight in the back yard. We had a recent snow and I was using the shadowed snow as a backdrop for most of these.

    The sun did the hard work, I just found it :)
    Travis
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    hi there,
    i too like the lighting of your subject and the lovely blue backround; however, I do feel like your subject is much too far to the right of the frame.. and I'm definitely one for different compositions; it's just a tad too much for my liking.


    I hadn't noticed that all of these ended up being to the right. I had several other compositions, but I didn't like the way any of those came out. In going back through a lot of my people shots, I found I tend to always put the subject in the lower right corner. headscratch.gif Thanks for pointing it out!
    Travis
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    stirfry wrote:
    Schmoo ~ cute hair, great frames; I'm glad someone finally got you in his sights and shared you with the rest of usiloveyou.gif

    I'm not sure why, but on the 2nd I'd almost prefer her other eye be more in focus than the eye towards the right edge. Maybe just because of the composition, I don't know.

    I like the blue background, and I really dig the composition (far right) of all three (mostly the 1st and 3rd). I have issues taking pictures of people with glasses; I think you mastered the skill well in these shots.


    As I said to Ian, the blue was just the snow in the shadows of late-afternoon light. I really liked the way it looked too, thanks!

    As for the glasses, that was one of the things that I had a lot of trouble with. I took 75 shots, and had 3 keepers, so I wouldn't say "mastered" but thank you! :D
    Travis
  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    It's Schmooooooooooo! A rare sighting indeed. I love the smirk shot iloveyou.gif it seems that one says "I'm giving up, take my photo then...", maybe it should be the first one in the series, haha. Nice shots thumb.gif
  • SenecaSeneca Registered Users Posts: 1,661 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    Good natural lighting on the last image.
  • greenpeagreenpea Registered Users Posts: 880 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    zweiblumen wrote:
    As for the glasses, that was one of the things that I had a lot of trouble with. I took 75 shots, and had 3 keepers, so I wouldn't say "mastered" but thank you! :D

    Was it all natural lighting? really great shots!

    ...but what I can't believe is that she let you get 75 shots!!!
    Andrew
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  • ulrikftulrikft Registered Users Posts: 372 Major grins
    edited January 23, 2008
    zweiblumen wrote:
    It doesn't happen often.

    In fact, many experienced schmoo hunters have gone years without catching as many full faced shots.

    I was able to get 3 "keepers". I'm not so happy with the skin-tones in "Smirk" and I'm still VERY new to shooting people, so any and all C&C would be appreciated!

    Thanks for looking.

    Left

    Face Forward

    Smirk

    All good pictures! But that last one is just amazing :) The expression is priceless!
    -Ulrik

    Canon EOS 30D, Canon 50mm f/1.4, Sigma 70-200 f/2.8, Sigma 18-50 f/2.8, Tokina 12-24 f/4. Sigma 1.4 TC, Feisol 3401 Tripod + Feisol ballhead, Metz 58 AF-1 C, ebay triggers.
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2008
    greenpea wrote:
    Was it all natural lighting? really great shots!

    ...but what I can't believe is that she let you get 75 shots!!!

    Yup, all natural light, just the late afternoon sun :)

    And yup! 75!!! I blame the new haircut. rolleyes1.gif
    Travis
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2008
    Thanks everyone for the comments! I appreciate them.
    Travis
  • JimWJimW Registered Users Posts: 333 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2008
    Travis,

    I think the last one is great. However, checking the cmyk in PS, I see that it has no cyan at all in the flesh. So, I’m guessing that if you shot RAW, then in the white balance in ACR, you had the option of going warmer which warms the flesh too much, or going colder which makes the background too blue. My suggestion would be to get the flesh right in ACR, then fix the background in post.

    The short lighting works great for her face. (Short lighting is having the light come from the side where you don’t see the ear. It would be broad lighting if the light were coming from the right.)

    I’d also crop the right edge so the background doesn’t peak out there. I love the composition, and the contrast of the complimentary colors (yellow/blue) is excellent. I think it’s a wonderful portrait.

    <<< Maybe she's just on the verge of killing me >>>

    Hey, forgive me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like you guys are a couple? :D:D

    I don't want the cheese, I just want to get out of the trap.


    http://www.jimwhitakerphotography.com/
  • zweiblumenzweiblumen Registered Users Posts: 369 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2008
    JimW wrote:
    Travis,

    I think the last one is great. However, checking the cmyk in PS, I see that it has no cyan at all in the flesh. So, I’m guessing that if you shot RAW, then in the white balance in ACR, you had the option of going warmer which warms the flesh too much, or going colder which makes the background too blue. My suggestion would be to get the flesh right in ACR, then fix the background in post.

    The short lighting works great for her face. (Short lighting is having the light come from the side where you don’t see the ear. It would be broad lighting if the light were coming from the right.)

    I’d also crop the right edge so the background doesn’t peak out there. I love the composition, and the contrast of the complimentary colors (yellow/blue) is excellent. I think it’s a wonderful portrait.

    <<< Maybe she's just on the verge of killing me >>>

    Hey, forgive me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like you guys are a couple? :D:D


    Jim,

    Thanks for this review! I really appreciate it. I felt that I had her skin tone all wrong in that shot, but didn't know how to fix it.

    I had the wrong WB set when I took that shot, and cooled it down in ACR trying for a decent balance between the BG and her face, however this left a lot of red in her skin tone. After doing my usual PP her face was REALLY red. I'm not familiar with working in CMYK, I do all of my work in RGB. I pulled down the reds in her face, but didn't notice a lack of blue (due to inexperience here). I know that Blue isn't the same as Cyan, but I think it's a place to start! Thanks so much for the pointer.

    Also, yes, she's my better half <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/iloveyou.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
    Travis
  • JimWJimW Registered Users Posts: 333 Major grins
    edited January 24, 2008
    I'm not familiar with working in CMYK, I do all of my work in RGB.
    Me too. But, since I've been in the (cmyk) printing business for years, I use those numbers as a guide to check for stuff, since I'm used to them. While I do all my corrections in rgb, the rgb numbers themselves don't mean anything to me, yet.
    Also, yes, she's my better half iloveyou.gif
    I see. That explains why she wants to kill you. :D:D:D

    I don't want the cheese, I just want to get out of the trap.


    http://www.jimwhitakerphotography.com/
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