Watermarking Problem

FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
edited March 15, 2008 in SmugMug Support
I just added a few photos to this gallery and now, instead of my watermark ,the proof watermark is showing up. I deleted the watermark on all photos then added mine again but the proof still shows up across the middle of each picture. Alll was fine before I uploaded the two new pix. I used the drag and drop uploader.

Is this something I caused or just a passing anomaly?

Thank for your help.

Virginia
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  • richWrichW Registered Users Posts: 941 Major grins
    edited February 5, 2008
    Flyinggina wrote:
    I just added a few photos to this gallery and now, instead of my watermark ,the proof watermark is showing up. I deleted the watermark on all photos then added mine again but the proof still shows up across the middle of each picture. Alll was fine before I uploaded the two new pix. I used the drag and drop uploader.

    Is this something I caused or just a passing anomaly?

    Thank for your help.

    Virginia
    I fixed the watermarks for you. You had the 'hide photo' selected on the images you use for the watermarks. This will cause the default 'proof' watermark to be applied. I moved the watermarks to their own 'private' gallery, this will keep them out of view.

    You can remove or change the watermark on the images in the gallery you posted above. If you need anything, yell...wave.gif
  • FlyingginaFlyinggina Registered Users Posts: 2,639 Major grins
    edited February 6, 2008
    Thanks, Rich. I accidently hit the hide instead of the arrange button and didn't realize it. Mystery explained!

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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 25, 2008
    I am having a similar problem. I uploaded a PNG with Transparent Background. Did Make Watermark. Made it somewhat Opaque. Now I apply it to each of my galleries (none Hidden) but no Watermark shows that I can tell.

    I can't see how to get back to the Watermark Settings to change the Opacity, If necessary.headscratch.gif

    Don
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 25, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    I am having a similar problem. I uploaded a PNG with Transparent Background. Did Make Watermark. Made it somewhat Opaque. Now I apply it to each of my galleries (none Hidden) but no Watermark shows that I can tell.

    I can't see how to get back to the Watermark Settings to change the Opacity, If necessary.headscratch.gif

    Don
    Gallery link that you are applying the watermark to? ear.gif
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  • RogersDARogersDA Registered Users Posts: 3,502 Major grins
    edited February 25, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    I can't see how to get back to the Watermark Settings to change the Opacity, If necessary.headscratch.gif
    Well, you can go to your control panel - then select the Pro Tab. There you should see "custom watermarks". Choose the Edit link to the right of "custom watermarks".

    There you will see each custom watermark. Choose edit again for each mark you want to update.

    As for them not showing - how big are your originals that you are applying the watermarks to?
    David
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Gallery link that you are applying the watermark to? ear.gif
    Most all of the ones in my Smugmug listed below.

    Don
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    RogersDA wrote:
    Well, you can go to your control panel - then select the Pro Tab. There you should see "custom watermarks". Choose the Edit link to the right of "custom watermarks".

    There you will see each custom watermark. Choose edit again for each mark you want to update.

    As for them not showing - how big are your originals that you are applying the watermarks to?
    Found them.

    Copyright PNG is 900x600 and most of the images are 3008x2008

    Thanks for your help.

    Don
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  • RogersDARogersDA Registered Users Posts: 3,502 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    Found them.

    Copyright PNG is 900x600 and most of the images are 3008x2008

    Thanks for your help.

    Don

    thumb.gif

    Did you actually apply the watermark to the images using the photo tools - watermarking menu in each gallery?
    David
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    RogersDA wrote:
    thumb.gif

    Did you actually apply the watermark to the images using the photo tools - watermarking menu in each gallery?
    Yes. But on drag and dropping a few to my desktop I see that they are 800x or so, actually, so I guess wont be watermaked, as you said.

    If I up load Original Raws and mark to show Large in Galleries, would those then get Watermarked? I am not currently selling prints on line.

    Don
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  • RogersDARogersDA Registered Users Posts: 3,502 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    Yes. But on drag and dropping a few to my desktop I see that they are 800x or so, actually, so I guess wont be watermaked, as you said.

    If I up load Original Raws and mark to show Large in Galleries, would those then get Watermarked? I am not currently selling prints on line.

    Don

    Don,

    You can't upload RAW, but you can convert to jpg and then upload those. Keep them at the same resolution.

    When you watermark using Smugmug the original files are not altered. Only the smaller versions that SmugMug creates from your originals are updated. As long as the original has its longest side > 800px then all sizes will be watermarked.
    David
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    RogersDA wrote:
    Don,

    You can't upload RAW, but you can convert to jpg and then upload those. Keep them at the same resolution.

    When you watermark using Smugmug the original files are not altered. Only the smaller versions that SmugMug creates from your originals are updated. As long as the original has its longest side > 800px then all sizes will be watermarked.
    Well then I'm stumped because I am uploading JPEGs at original 3008x2008 size with Jeff LR Plugin.

    I do have all my galleries set to show Large, though, not Original. Does that make a difference?

    Don
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  • RogersDARogersDA Registered Users Posts: 3,502 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    I do have all my galleries set to show Large, though, not Original. Does that make a difference?

    Don

    Nope.

    As long as you followed the right steps to a) create the watermark in SmugMug and then b) the steps to actualy apply the watermark using the photo tools menu then the images -should- be watermarked.

    You will have to wait for a SmugMug crew member to go on a hunt of your gallery settings or other issues that may be present that I can't see.
    David
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    RogersDA wrote:
    Nope.

    As long as you followed the right steps to a) create the watermark in SmugMug and then b) the steps to actualy apply the watermark using the photo tools menu then the images -should- be watermarked.

    You will have to wait for a SmugMug crew member to go on a hunt of your gallery settings or other issues that may be present that I can't see.
    I guess i'll have to wait for the closer inspection! ne_nau.gif

    Thanks,

    Don
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    Hey Don, I made 2nd copy of the sunset, http://donricklin.smugmug.com/gallery/4399650_Q4gMp#259272922
    and then watermarked it. I got your watermark, and it was in prophoto rgb, which I guess made our system yak.. I saved for web, png24 and in RGB and it was able to work (I made the watermark DonAW which you can edit in your CP, Pros tab).

    I also changed your gallery there to viewer controlled for style, so I could see the image #s. You can set it how you like anytime after it's all better.
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Hey Don, I made 2nd copy of the sunset, http://donricklin.smugmug.com/gallery/4399650_Q4gMp#259272922
    and then watermarked it. I got your watermark, and it was in prophoto rgb, which I guess made our system yak.. I saved for web, png24 and in RGB and it was able to work (I made the watermark DonAW which you can edit in your CP, Pros tab).

    I also changed your gallery there to viewer controlled for style, so I could see the image #s. You can set it how you like anytime after it's all better.
    Okay, that explains it, for sure. It is the only thing I uploaded by the Standard SmugMug Mac Uploader. LR doesn't handle PNG's. So didn't realize it was ProPhoto!

    Thanks Andy. I'll see about taking it from here.

    thumb.gif
    Don
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    Watermark Editing.
    Can you pos edit the water amrk for Opacity? Or dou you have to reapply them?

    Don
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  • RogersDARogersDA Registered Users Posts: 3,502 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    Can you pos edit the water amrk for Opacity? Or dou you have to reapply them?

    Don

    Changing the watermark does not affect the images. The watermarked images are static.

    You need to reapply the watermark for each gallery.
    David
    GreyLeaf PhotoGraphy
  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited February 26, 2008
    RogersDA wrote:
    Changing the watermark does not affect the images. The watermarked images are static.

    You need to reapply the watermark for each gallery.
    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > Okay,
    I'll do it later.

    Meanwhile, the only gallery not showing Watermark under the images is Sand Triptych.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/ne_nau.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    Don
    </photo>
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  • dank-photodank-photo Registered Users Posts: 132 Major grins
    edited March 14, 2008
    same problem, but not file is not hidden
    richW wrote:
    I fixed the watermarks for you. You had the 'hide photo' selected on the images you use for the watermarks. This will cause the default 'proof' watermark to be applied. I moved the watermarks to their own 'private' gallery, this will keep them out of view.

    You can remove or change the watermark on the images in the gallery you posted above. If you need anything, yell...wave.gif


    Hi...I recently joined as a pro, and first off, I say thank you for all of the help in the tutorials...I had no idea about HTML, and they have helped me out immensely. Now I'm stuck though...some of my watermarks still say "proof" even after I have uploaded a custom watermark for them, and it is not hidden itself, but in a hidden gallery like it should be..what's the problem?

    -Dan K

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  • AllenAllen Registered Users Posts: 10,015 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2008
    dank-photo wrote:
    Hi...I recently joined as a pro, and first off, I say thank you for all of the help in the tutorials...I had no idea about HTML, and they have helped me out immensely. Now I'm stuck though...some of my watermarks still say "proof" even after I have uploaded a custom watermark for them, and it is not hidden itself, but in a hidden gallery like it should be..what's the problem?

    -Dan K

    www.dank-photo.com
    Under "photo tools" watermarking you have to re-apply the correct watermark
    so that the display photos are regenerated with the new watermark.
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  • ivarivar Registered Users Posts: 8,395 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2008
    LRmvcDonR wrote:
    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > Okay,
    I'll do it later.

    Meanwhile, the only gallery not showing Watermark under the images is Sand Triptych.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/ne_nau.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    Don
    </photo>
    That's because those images are too small to be watermarked. The longest side of the image needs to be over 800px <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/thumb.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
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  • DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited March 15, 2008
    ivar wrote:
    That's because those images are too small to be watermarked. The longest side of the image needs to be over 800px thumb.gif
    Thanks, I did finally get that info strait!

    Some of my picks are older scans.

    Don
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