Big changes to SmugMug's privacy and security released

Antony

denisegoldberg wrote:

I have some unlisted galleries because I do not want the galleries to show on my galleries page - but I do want them to be available to anyone. I would be very unhappy if I couldn't combine unlisted with leaving 'hello smuggers' and 'hello world' set to yes.

Allowing the gallery owner to combine the options in a way that makes sense for him or her makes the most sense (at least to me). I want maximum flexibility, and the current behavior continues to give me the flexibility that I need.

--- Denise

I see - that seems reasonable that hello world / hello smugglers would still be available. Given that this whole thing started because of unclear meaning around the meaning of privacy settings, my vote would still be for 'unlisted' to default to No for hello world / hello smugglers since that matches what I think an average person would think when mousing over the question mark when creating a gallery, which says:

"Unlisted galleries can be viewed only by those who know the address. You'll have to invite your fans to see how amazing you are. Unlisting a gallery does not make it secure, only hidden and hard to find."

Someone being able to find my gallery via google or smugmug search seems like it runs counter to being "hidden and hard to find".

(An alternative idea: perhaps rename 'unlisted' to 'not shown on galleries page'?)

Andy

arpboy wrote:

Guys:

The shift has broken my homepage slideshow (photos.RichardBerry.org) - I had it displaying the most popular photos. Has anyone else seen this?

-Richard

Hi Richard, we've stopped supporting that old javascript slideshow 4 months ago - the new hotness is the Shizam Flash Slideshow, details here:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=73247

Post in that thread if you have any questions about it, okay?

jfriend

Antony wrote:

Thanks smugmug for a good response to a tricky situation. I do have one comment though.

I was surprised that the 'unlisted' setting doesn't also turn off 'hello world!' and 'hello smuggers!'. It seems like if people using google or smugmug search can find my photos, they aren't really unlisted.

Or does unlisted do that, and it's just not clear in the Customize gallery UI? If that's the case, perhaps when you click on unlisted, it should disable the 'Yes' choice of the radio buttons for both 'hello world!' and 'hello smuggers'.

I can't speak for the Hello Smuggers feature, but for Hello World if a given gallery is unlisted, it won't appear in your home page. So, unless you link it elsewhere on the internet, there's no way for a non-Smugmug search engine to every know about it and index it. You could, of course, link it elsewhere and maybe a search engine would find it. But, unless you do that, you should not expect Google to know about an unlisted gallery. There's no way for it to be found by their crawler.

So, Hello World won't really do anything for you on an unlisted gallery unless you link it somewhere else that a search engine will find.

sdunbar

devbobo wrote:

I have released a temporary patch for the Lightroom uploader, see my post here.

It works great, of course :-)

Thanks for the quick response!

I had put a comment in Jeffrey's blog that I submitted a post here. Should I update the comment with a link to this forum, or just wait for Jeffrey to announce a new release?

I didn't want to post a link to this temp version unless you are cool w/ it...

Andy

sdunbar wrote:

It works great, of course :-)

Thanks for the quick response!

I had put a comment in Jeffrey's blog that I submitted a post here. Should I update the comment with a link to this forum, or just wait for Jeffrey to announce a new release?

I didn't want to post a link to this temp version unless you are cool w/ it...

I'm sure Jeffrey knows, since Dev emailed him
By all means, post a link to this thread, thanks!

Antony

jfriend wrote:

I can't speak for the Hello Smuggers feature, but for Hello World if a given gallery is unlisted, it won't appear in your home page. So, unless you link it elsewhere on the internet, there's no way for a non-Smugmug search engine to every know about it and index it. You could, of course, link it elsewhere and maybe a search engine would fine it. But, unless you do that, you should not expect Google to know about an unlisted gallery. There's no way for it to be found by the crawler.

So, Hello World won't really do anything for you on an unlisted gallery unless you link it somewhere else that a search engine will find.

Good points. I guess one way I could imagine links getting into crawler queues would be if friends or family using the Yahoo/Google/MSN toolbar or Yahoo Mail/Gmail/Hotmail visited links I sent them to my photos. I don't know if the search companies actually do this or not, but wouldn't be surprised if they do.

Of course in the end it's not a big deal, since I had forgotten about the fact that I set my site's SmugIslands pref to have hello world set to no, so my nickname.smugmug.com/robots.txt file disallows access to all of my photos to all (well-behaved) crawlers.

tonyd

Andy wrote:

Hi Richard, we've stopped supporting that old javascript slideshow 4 months ago - the new hotness is the Shizam Flash Slideshow, details here:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=73247

Post in that thread if you have any questions about it, okay?

I have been using the javascript slideshow also. Would this be what has also completely broken my galleries when using firefox (but not ie)? In firefox I can nolonger choose the gallery view - they are all stuck in slideshow mode.

(reading about the flash slideshow now, hoping I can easily replace what I've had...)

Andy

tonyd wrote:

I have been using the javascript slideshow also. Would this be what has also completely broken my galleries when using firefox (but not ie)? In firefox I can nolonger choose the gallery view - they are all stuck in slideshow mode.

(reading about the flash slideshow now, hoping I can easily replace what I've had...)

That's an unfortunate side effect of the olde slideshow, Tony. Put up the new one (it's easy) and then your problem will be solved

Allen

tonyd wrote:

I have been using the javascript slideshow also. Would this be what has also completely broken my galleries when using firefox (but not ie)? In firefox I can nolonger choose the gallery view - they are all stuck in slideshow mode.

(reading about the flash slideshow now, hoping I can easily replace what I've had...)

Delete the Smugmug cookies when this happens, stuck in slideshow or another
style.

arpboy

Andy wrote:

Hi Richard, we've stopped supporting that old javascript slideshow 4 months ago - the new hotness is the Shizam Flash Slideshow, details here:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=73247

Post in that thread if you have any questions about it, okay?

Andy, sounds great. I hadn't looked lately, but that slideshow looks a lot nicer than what I was using. I'll implement the new one this weekend.

Thanks!

jerryr

Hi :
I use the following 'hack' to create a 'return to thumbnails link' to return the galleries thumbnails view - which appears on the .photoNav divison.

function fixPhotoNav()
{
oPhotoNav = YD.getElementsByClassName("photoNav", "div");
for (i=0; i < oPhotoNav.length; i++)
{
re = /gallery\/([\d]+)\//;
oTitle = YD.getElementsByClassName("title", "span", oPhotoNav);
if (re.test(window.location))
oTitle[0].innerHTML = "| " + oTitle[0].innerHTML + " |";
re.exec(window.location);
oPhotoNav.innerHTML = oPhotoNav.innerHTML + "<span ><a href=\"/gallery/" + RegExp.$1 + "\">return to album thumbnails</a></span>";
}
}

It does not work - any suggestions would be greatly appreciated jerryr

devbobo

jerryr wrote:

Hi :
I use the following 'hack' to create a 'return to thumbnails link' to return the galleries thumbnails view - which appears on the .photoNav divison.

function fixPhotoNav()
{
oPhotoNav = YD.getElementsByClassName("photoNav", "div");
for (i=0; i < oPhotoNav.length; i++)
{
re = /gallery\/([\d]+)\//;
oTitle = YD.getElementsByClassName("title", "span", oPhotoNav);
if (re.test(window.location))
oTitle[0].innerHTML = "| " + oTitle[0].innerHTML + " |";
re.exec(window.location);
oPhotoNav.innerHTML = oPhotoNav.innerHTML + "return to album thumbnails";
}
}

It does not work - any suggestions would be greatly appreciated jerryr

Jerry,

You will probably need to test this cuz I haven't

But I believe a modified, regular expression as below should work...

re = /gallery\/([\d]+)(_(\w+))?\//;

Cheers,

David

brandofamily

Dev, can you please help me update these 2 hack you built for me?

/*===================================================================*/
/*== Return to Thumb (Single Image Search by Keyword Results Page) ==*/
/*===================================================================*/
function fixPhotoNav2()
{
  oPhotoNav = YD.getElementsByClassName("photoNav", "div");

  for (i=0; i < oPhotoNav.length; i++)
  {
    re = /keyword\/([\w\%]+)\//;
    oTitle = YD.getElementsByClassName("title", "span", oPhotoNav[i]);
    if (re.test(window.location)) {
      oTitle[0].innerHTML = "|&nbsp;" + oTitle[0].innerHTML + "&nbsp;|";
      re.exec(window.location);
      oPhotoNav[i].innerHTML = oPhotoNav[i].innerHTML + "<span ><a href='/keyword/" + RegExp.$1 + "'>Return to Results Page</a></span>";
    }
  }
}


/*================================================================*/
/*== Return to Thumb (Single Image Search by Date Results Page) ==*/
/*================================================================*/
function fixPhotoNav3()
{
  oPhotoNav = YD.getElementsByClassName("photoNav", "div");

  for (i=0; i < oPhotoNav.length; i++)
  {
    re = /date\/([\d\-]+)\/([\d\-]+)/;
    oTitle = YD.getElementsByClassName("title", "span", oPhotoNav[i]);
    if (re.test(window.location)) {
      oTitle[0].innerHTML = "|&nbsp;" + oTitle[0].innerHTML + "&nbsp;|";
      re.exec(window.location);
      oPhotoNav[i].innerHTML = oPhotoNav[i].innerHTML + "<span ><a href='/date/" + RegExp.$1 + "/" + RegExp.$2 + "'>Return to Results Page</a></span>";
    }
  }
}

jerryr

Hi - Thank you Thank you - tested and works



- jerryr

brandofamily

devbobo wrote:

Jerry,

You will probably need to test this cuz I haven't

But I believe a modified, regular expression as below should work...

re = /gallery\/([\d]+)(_(\w+))?\//;

Cheers,

David

SorryDev. I jumped to the conclusion that the above mentionsed hacks would be broken too, but they seem to uneffected... I guess they don't look for actually galleries, so they'd be uneffected by the new change...
Thanks for the other fix though... works great now...

Just another reason some of these hacks should become actulal features...

brandofamily

OK, Now we have BIG troubles... seems bulk zoom thumbnail hack is busted due to new hottness.... This is VERY bad.... I thought this might be the case so I tried to zoom an "old" gallery. It has originals enabled, but BZT returns the error that originals are NOT enabled... I've got tons of work to do and need this one ASAP... Thanks for all you do guys.... Antoher vote (I guess it's my own poll) for SM taking over some of these awesome hacks and making them SM features...

Andy

brandofamily wrote:

OK, Now we have BIG troubles... seems bulk zoom thumbnail hack

I posted that that hack is presently not working, yesterday, after the release - in the BZT hack thread.
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=746794#post746794

brandofamily

Andy wrote:

I posted that that hack is presently not working, yesterday, after the release - in the BZT hack thread.
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=746794#post746794

Sorry, been working 18 hour days w/ school and photo shoot stuff...

Andy

brandofamily wrote:

Sorry, been working 18 hour days w/ school and photo shoot stuff...

NP just wanted you (and all) to know that Dev's aware, and if it can be modified, he'll do it.

DJKennedy

Devbo:
As per Andys request to post this here:

Yesterday I've noticed that my Recent Photos Gallery hack (link off of my navbar) no longer works. Using FF2 gives me server cant be found, IE7 gives me page can not be displayed, and FF leaves a URL in the addy bar of .smugmug.com although at least IE shows the proper URL.

I never made any changes at all, so I'm assuming that SM made a change at some point (from my email from Andy: Hi Derek,
It's likely to do with the new SmuKeys that are being used.)

Did you guys make a change that I'm not aware of, should I for now remove that link from my navbar? (I hate broken links on a page!)

Derek

tonyd

Allen wrote:

Delete the Smugmug cookies when this happens, stuck in slideshow or another
style.

Thanks for the tip. I've already switched to the new slideshow. It's not actually working yet. Already posted in the slideshow thread asking about what I have done wrong...

ivar

tonyd wrote:

Thanks for the tip. I've already switched to the new slideshow. It's not actually working yet. Already posted in the slideshow thread asking about what I have done wrong...

--> me having a look in the slideshow thread

Llywellyn

Please update the "posting a photo on DGrin" thread to reflect this change. I have yet to figure it out with the new system. All my galleries have right-click protection on and LB disabled, so those solutions aren't going to work for me. I loved being able to copy the link and just replace "gallery"" with "photos" to get the image to show.

What's the cut-and-paste version of posting images with the new URLs? I tried copying the link from my gallery, replacing "gallery" with "photos," deleting the gallery number, and then moving the underscore and five-digit code to behind the photo number, and appending "-L.jpg." Didn't work. I'm stumped.

kwalsh

Moving Grandfathered Galleries???
Quick question, I understand that grandfathered photos in grandfathered galleries will still have their old links work. I'm assuming based on the way gallery URLs are formed that this will still work even if I change a gallery's category or sub-category? Put another way, I can move grandfathered galleries around my site and they'll stay grandfathered with old links working?

Thanks,

Ken

Andy

kwalsh wrote:

Quick question, I understand that grandfathered photos in grandfathered galleries will still have their old links work. I'm assuming based on the way gallery URLs are formed that this will still work even if I change a gallery's category or sub-category? Put another way, I can move grandfathered galleries around my site and they'll stay grandfathered with old links working?

Thanks,

Ken

Yes, that's fine.

DonMB

Try this...

Llywellyn wrote:

Please update the "posting a photo on DGrin" thread to reflect this change. I have yet to figure it out with the new system. All my galleries have right-click protection on and LB disabled, so those solutions aren't going to work for me. I loved being able to copy the link and just replace "gallery"" with "photos" to get the image to show.

What's the cut-and-paste version of posting images with the new URLs? I tried copying the link from my gallery, replacing "gallery" with "photos," deleting the gallery number, and then moving the underscore and five-digit code to behind the photo number, and appending "-L.jpg." Didn't work. I'm stumped.

I'm in the same situation, but I figured out how to do it. Bring up a photo in the light box and you'll see a URL like this:

http://www.pixelartifacts.com/gallery/4201785_AYPQy#245572011_cvomi-A-LB

Change 'gallery' to 'photos'. Delete the gallery number (e.g 4201785_AYPQy). Delete the extra # sign. Change the -A-LB after the photo number to -L.jpg and you get this, which works.

http://www.pixelartifacts.com/photos/245572011_cvomi-L.jpg

denisegoldberg

Llywellyn wrote:

Please update the "posting a photo on DGrin" thread to reflect this change. I have yet to figure it out with the new system. All my galleries have right-click protection on and LB disabled, so those solutions aren't going to work for me. I loved being able to copy the link and just replace "gallery"" with "photos" to get the image to show.

What's the cut-and-paste version of posting images with the new URLs? I tried copying the link from my gallery, replacing "gallery" with "photos," deleting the gallery number, and then moving the underscore and five-digit code to behind the photo number, and appending "-L.jpg." Didn't work. I'm stumped.

I have the share button enabled when I'm logged in, which gives me access to the page of links to just copy. In case you're interested, here's the CSS that I use:

#altViews.nav,    
.share_button
  {
    display: none;
}
.loggedIn #altViews.nav,    
.loggedIn .share_button
  {
    display: block;
}

--- Denise

brandofamily

SendtoSmugmug works as far as the uploading, but once done the re-direct to the uploaded gallery seems to be b0rked... Is this a result of the new hottness?

Andy

brandofamily wrote:

SendtoSmugmug works as far as the uploading, but once done the re-direct to the uploaded gallery seems to be b0rked... Is this a result of the new hottness?

Could be. Dev will ck with Omar.

brandofamily

Andy wrote:

Could be. Dev will ck with Omar.

Thanks...