What does Smugmugs Perpetual License mean?

MarkjayMarkjay Registered Users Posts: 860 Major grins
I noticed and would like to better understand what Smugmug means when in the Digital Downloads Commercial Licence it says....

perpetual licence

Does this mean they downloader has a perpetual amount of time to use the photo (whenever it is needed?)

Does this mean they can use it over and over again without having to pay for it's use over and over?


Thank you in advance for the clarification.
Markjay
Canon AE1 - it was my first "real camera"
Canon 20D - no more film!

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  • MarkjayMarkjay Registered Users Posts: 860 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    Forgot........
    Sorry, forgot to list the exact line from the licensing agreement as follows:

    Photographer grants you a perpetual, non-exclusive, non-transferable, worldwide license to use this image

    So, what does perpetual mean in this instance?
    Markjay
    Canon AE1 - it was my first "real camera"
    Canon 20D - no more film!
  • PupatorPupator Registered Users Posts: 2,322 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    In legal agreements, perpetual is usually contrasted with annual. A perpetual agreement involves a one-time payment for unlimited future use (as described more fully in the agreement usually).
    Does this mean they downloader has a perpetual amount of time to use the photo (whenever it is needed?)

    Does this mean they can use it over and over again without having to pay for it's use over and over?

    Yes and yes.
  • MarkjayMarkjay Registered Users Posts: 860 Major grins
    edited February 27, 2008
    Thank you...
    I was hoping someone from Smugmug specifically would answer what THEIR intention is / was for putting in the word perpetual and, hoping for a clarification from one of our smug heroes.

    Not to take away from your response, your response is truly appreciated but, speaks in more general terms and your explanation does sound logical.

    Anyone from Smugmug going to clarify this more for us....

    please.


    Pupator wrote:
    In legal agreements, perpetual is usually contrasted with annual. A perpetual agreement involves a one-time payment for unlimited future use (as described more fully in the agreement usually).



    Yes and yes.
    Markjay
    Canon AE1 - it was my first "real camera"
    Canon 20D - no more film!
  • PupatorPupator Registered Users Posts: 2,322 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2008
    Glad to help.

    I think the lack of response is because this isn't a matter of opinion or what "they intended for the word to mean," it's just what it means.

    A user granted a perpetual license has unlimited "right to use" for the future. It does't matter what Smugmug intended to say; in a court of law that is the way it will be defined. deal.gif
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2008
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    New license language is in the works, too.
  • MarkjayMarkjay Registered Users Posts: 860 Major grins
    edited March 6, 2008
    Thanks Andy
    THANK you, Andy. OMG you have so many "things in the works"....

    how do you have time to work :D:D

    Can I assume the stock photos is STILL in the works also?

    Have a great day, Andy!

    Andy wrote:
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    New license language is in the works, too.
    Markjay
    Canon AE1 - it was my first "real camera"
    Canon 20D - no more film!
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