Filter/Polarizing !!!!

Freezframe

Pros & Cons between 100.00$ and 200.00$ Filters....I guess I'm looking for any huge differences !

Brady :dunno

gus

Freezframe wrote:

Pros & Cons between 100.00$ and 200.00$ Filters....I guess I'm looking for any huge differences !

Brady

I buy mine on ebay .. 'Hoya circular polariser'. (i have a tendency to sit them down & walk away from them.) They cost me about $50 delivered compared to $110 at my local camera shop.

For me i find no reason to change from this brand at this price.

Tee Why

I think the biggest reason why certain polarizers cost more, everything else being equal, is the coating.

Generally, non coated filters cost the least, single coated ones a bit more, and multicoated ones the most.

Multicoated filters tend to reduce flare and prevent loss of contrast better than single or non coated filters.

I personally have not seen any good tests online comparing a non/single coated polarizer vs a multicoated polarizer from a same brand so I can't say the difference is visible since I've no prints or images that show a direct comparisons.

I did have a cheap polarizer which gave a small color cast so replaced it with a Hoya single coated polarizer and found it's colors to be better.

I think if you are going to be a serious user of polarizers, then I'd probably get the best, if this is a once in a while filter, then it maybe worth getting a cheap one and save the dough.

Freezframe

gus wrote:

I buy mine on ebay .. 'Hoya circular polariser'. (i have a tendency to sit them down & walk away from them.) They cost me about $50 delivered compared to $110 at my local camera shop.

For me i find no reason to change from this brand at this price.

Ebay seems to be the place for everything......Unfortunatly I lost money on Ebay and will have no more of that ......

Thanx for reply: Brady

cmason

Someone here pointed me to http://hvstar.net/, an outfit out of Canada/China, that sells B+W, and Hoya filters at some of the best prices around. I haven't ordered from them yet, but others have with good results.

Freezframe

Don't mind spending the money if it's worth it !!!

Tee Why wrote:

I think the biggest reason why certain polarizers cost more, everything else being equal, is the coating.

Generally, non coated filters cost the least, single coated ones a bit more, and multicoated ones the most.

Multicoated filters tend to reduce flare and prevent loss of contrast better than single or non coated filters.

I personally have not seen any good tests online comparing a non/single coated polarizer vs a multicoated polarizer from a same brand so I can't say the difference is visible since I've no prints or images that show a direct comparisons.

I did have a cheap polarizer which gave a small color cast so replaced it with a Hoya single coated polarizer and found it's colors to be better.

I think if you are going to be a serious user of polarizers, then I'd probably get the best, if this is a once in a while filter, then it maybe worth getting a cheap one and save the dough.

Was definitely thinking multicoated Hoya ....Just don't want any suprises !!!
I have to travel a little distance for all my photo supplies .Just want advice on brands for a little piece of mind !!!!

Thanx: Brady

gus

Freezframe wrote:

Ebay seems to be the place for everything......Unfortunatly I lost money on Ebay and will have no more of that ......

Thanx for reply: Brady

I find that a rather blinkered outlook...honestly.
Sure...you dont go buying the latest laptop or iphone from nigeria. There are plenty of reputable people still slugging away on ebay...that one in particular has almost 20k sales at 99%. I seriously doubt he is out to make a quick $50 from you. There are plenty like him. You are however ...always welcome in this world to pay more though.

Freezframe

It was more than that!!

gus wrote:

I find that a rather blinkered outlook...honestly.
Sure...you dont go buying the latest laptop or iphone from nigeria. There are plenty of reputable people still slugging away on ebay...that one in particular has almost 20k sales at 99%. I seriously doubt he is out to make a quick $50 from you. There are plenty like him. You are alway welcome in this world to pay more though.

It was the way ebay treated me that leaves a bad taste in my mouth....It's a long story that happened about 2 years ago.....They had a big problem with scammers at the time ....Some were takin care of and, some weren't ....

Thanx Again: Brady

gus

Freezframe wrote:

It was the way ebay treated me that leaves a bad taste in my mouth....It's a long story that happened about 2 years ago.....They had a big problem with scammers at the time ....Some were takin care of and, some weren't ....

Thanx Again: Brady

Ahh..ok i see what you mean. Fair enough.

Freezframe

Just had a glance through your Photo !!!(Link)

gus wrote:

Ahh..ok i see what you mean. Fair enough.

You have a great eye and a vivid imagination !!!!

Great Stuff: Brady

gus

Freezframe wrote:

You have a great eye and a vivid imagination !!!!

Great Stuff: Brady

I forget that the link is there...tks though, sometimes its a grey line between imagination & insanity.

Tee Why

Personally, I think multi coated B&W's would be the best, then maybe Multicoated Hoyas, then a single coated B&W, then a single coated Hoya, then a non coated Hoya.

I don't think the optics of hte B&W's are better but the filter thread of the B&W's are smoother and they seem easier to clean than Hoya's.

gus

Tee Why wrote:

I don't think the optics of hte B&W's are better but the filter thread of the B&W's are smoother and they seem easier to clean than Hoya's.

Ive never used B&W's but it wouldnt be too hard to have a better thread than Hoya. Maybe thats their cheapness Ive had many a 30 min session with the worst bullock team drivers language you have ever heard attempting to get my Hoyas together after they have stuck on & then completely let go with a 'sproinggggggg' as i have applied some pressure to unscrew them. Getting that spring clip back in with big fingers is murder.

Im rather light handed with them these days. Hell...maybe i should even look at spending more and try a B&W.

jonh68

I'm in the camp that if you shoot polorizers all the time or it's crucial to get the best optics, then go with the best. If it's a casual thing and you want some extra pop, go with the 50-100 dollar filters.

Chrissiebeez_NL

beware that B&W slim filters are also hard to take off the lens because you have very little surface area to hold and twist the ring. So for your wallet and your frustration levels: if you dont need it, dont do it

I recently bought a B&W slim pol filter but haven't got around to using it since the weather is all bleh here now. i'm sure i'll love it on a bounty island next summer

I Simonius

Chrissiebeez_NL wrote:

beware that B&W slim filters are also hard to take off the lens because you have very little surface area to hold and twist the ring. So for your wallet and your frustration levels: if you dont need it, dont do it

I recently bought a B&W slim pol filter but haven't got around to using it since the weather is all bleh here now. i'm sure i'll love it on a bounty island next summer

The B+W slim filters don't have a female thread for connection for lens cap. Inconvenient!

I was put off cheap polarisers after I noticed dreadful noise in the blue channel when converted to Black and White.

Since then I have got Hoya for the wide angle ( takes the lens cap) and B+W for other sizes

claudermilk

I can also recommend hvstar.net. I found out abut them a while back on FM. I've ordered a couple of B+W filters and had no problems.

Based on reading far too many filter threads here & at FM I would recommend the B+W polarizer over the Hoya. At hvstar, I would go a step further and say go ahead & get the Kaesemann version; it's only a few dollars more & is supposed to have better polarizing foils in addition to edge sealing. The B+W filters normally use brass rings which is what makes them easier to use (though there are "alloy" ones available through hvstar--skip those). Also, I've read many instances of the Hoya CPL falling apart where the retaining ring fialed & fell out; never heard to the same happening with B+W.

I have the B+W Kaesemann standard width filter & it's served me well. On my 20D & Tokina 12-24 there is no vignetting.