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XTI Rebel + Gimp + UFraw + Linux = Problem

[Deleted User][Deleted User] Major grinsBournemouth, UKPosts: 0 Major grins
edited March 16, 2008 in Digital Darkroom
A friend of mine is having problems with the aforementioned setup, while I have the Canon 400D which is equvilent to the XTI Rebel I don't have an XTI to be able to play with to confirm that they are the near the same.

Is there an online tutorial\setup\help pages that might be able to point him in the right direction to getting this setup working??

Tim

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    David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,214 moderator
    edited March 11, 2008
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    BigAlBigAl Registered Users Posts: 2,294 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2008
    What IS the problem? Your query is a bit vague.

    The XTi and the 400d are the same except for the badge and a bit of code in the hardware which adds the camera name to the EXIF. If you're having a problem with UFraw, you may want to consider Raw Therapee instead.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Major grins Bournemouth, UKPosts: 0 Major grins
    edited March 12, 2008
    Hi Al

    Thanks for the info, I not 100% sure what the problem is, the guy runs the same Linux OS as I do and has the same version of Gimp, but he could not get the URraw gimp plugin to work with his camera. He tried updating to the latest version of UFraw from outside the distro's downloads and ran into dependance problems.

    I have the 400D and don't have a problem with UFraw although I don't find it that great. I may well have a play with rawtherapee myself.

    Regards

    Tim
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,911 moderator
    edited March 14, 2008
    draggin wrote:
    Hi Al

    Thanks for the info, I not 100% sure what the problem is, the guy runs the same Linux OS as I do and has the same version of Gimp, but he could not get the URraw gimp plugin to work with his camera. He tried updating to the latest version of UFraw from outside the distro's downloads and ran into dependance problems.

    I have the 400D and don't have a problem with UFraw although I don't find it that great. I may well have a play with rawtherapee myself.

    Regards

    Tim

    Send him one of your RAW image files, one that you know works for sure. If they still cannot run against your file, you know it has to be their setup.

    Are there any additional files required from Canon? On a Windows machine, Canon specific dll files are often required for third-party RAW converters and viewers. I have no idea about Linux machines. ne_nau.gif(Does Linux use "library" files?)

    I am also a RAW Therapee user and I too love it! clap.gifclap (... again on a Windows machine.)
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,911 moderator
    edited March 14, 2008
    ziggy53 wrote:
    ...

    Are there any additional files required from Canon? On a Windows machine, Canon specific dll files are often required for third-party RAW converters and viewers. I have no idea about Linux machines. ne_nau.gif(Does Linux use "library" files?)
    ...

    I did find this, "... dependencies include the GIMP and libgimp for basic functionality, and LittleCMS and libEXIF for enhanced features."

    Is that "libgimp" significant?
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    tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited March 14, 2008
    This problem happens when individual components are compiled or downloaded without taking care of dependencies.
    Thats why, the best way to do this is use the package manager.
    For example if its a red-hat based distro, use rpm -ivh etc.,
    If its ubuntu, use apt-get, if its gentoo use emerge.
    This takes care of all dependencies.
    The download sequence should be
    1. Get gimp(latest version) using the package manager to get all dependencies
    2. Test GIMP is working
    3. Get ufraw using the package manager.
    In case your package manager does not recognize ufraw(a possiblity), go to the webpage of ufraw(ufraw.sourceforge.net) and then check out dependencies.
    Install all those using the package manager, and then install ufraw.
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    tsk1979tsk1979 Registered Users Posts: 937 Major grins
    edited March 14, 2008
    ziggy53 wrote:
    I did find this, "... dependencies include the GIMP and libgimp for basic functionality, and LittleCMS and libEXIF for enhanced features."

    Is that "libgimp" significant?
    ]
    ufraw can be used standalone too, but if you want to open RAW files from within gimp you need to have the GIMP installed and development libraries(libgimp) also installed.

    And you do not need any dll files etc.,
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Major grins Bournemouth, UKPosts: 0 Major grins
    edited March 14, 2008
    He is using Mepis 7 (which is a derivative of Debian), Gimp and UFraw (including the gimp\UFraw plugin) are in the software reposatories which is handled by a package manager. When you select the software Mepis automaticly takes care of any dependances or it will refuse to install the software (you can force it to install).

    There is a chance that he may have forced an installation of software with dependance issue which is causing the problem, but I don't beleive he has compiled any as he is new to Linux.

    I have informed him about Rawtherapee but I have not heard if he has tried it yet.

    Tim
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Major grins Bournemouth, UKPosts: 0 Major grins
    edited March 14, 2008
    ziggy53 wrote:
    <snip>

    Are there any additional files required from Canon? On a Windows machine, Canon specific dll files are often required for third-party RAW converters and viewers. I have no idea about Linux machines. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/ne_nau.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >(Does Linux use "library" files?)

    I am also a RAW Therapee user and I too love it! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/clap.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >clap (... again on a Windows machine.)

    No, Canon as an official line don't support Linux so it very unlikely that they will supply any spefic software for it to work.

    I tried RawTherapee on my windos machine and it looked quitre good, somebody else has installed the linux version on Mepis7 but I am busy with other problems at the moment.

    Tim
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    nmhnmh Registered Users Posts: 29 Big grins
    edited March 16, 2008
    software versions
    draggin wrote:
    He is using Mepis 7 (which is a derivative of Debian), Gimp and UFraw (including the gimp\UFraw plugin) are in the software reposatories which is handled by a package manager. When you select the software Mepis automaticly takes care of any dependances or it will refuse to install the software (you can force it to install).

    There is a chance that he may have forced an installation of software with dependance issue which is causing the problem, but I don't beleive he has compiled any as he is new to Linux.
    Have you compared what is installed for both your system and your friend's?
    dpkg -l should get you version numbers. Also, what sources are you using? (in debian: /etc/apt/sources.list)

    tsk1979     has some good advice - I would add that you can build packages locally, if you want.
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