Portrait of the Artist

gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
edited March 26, 2005 in People
This is my friend who is a novelist. The shot is one from a shoot for his last novel's author photo. This one was not the one chosen, but I think it is OK. He is a cool subject. BTW- He is Chuck Rosenthal, his book "Never Let Me Go" is very powerful stuff.

regards,

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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    Nice portrait. I'd like to see the original color version.
    If not now, when?
  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    rutt wrote:
    Nice portrait. I'd like to see the original color version.
    Here it is. No adjustment.

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    gpgold wrote:
    This is my friend who is a novelist. The shot is one from a shoot for his last novel's author photo. This one was not the one chosen, but I think it is OK. He is a cool subject. BTW- He is Chuck Rosenthal, his book "Never Let Me Go" is very powerful stuff.

    regards,

    Gary18245944-M.jpg

    Wow, one of my kin.

    He is a good subject. The shot could be strengthened by using a little crop top and left to re-compose. He feels a bit like he's falling out of the frame. I also would add that you need to be careful not to clip your highlights in your B/W conversion.
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  • 4labs4labs Registered Users Posts: 2,089 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    Very nice portrait I like the color version better. When you converted to BW you lost some detail on his forehead in particular. Just MHO..
  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    Wow, one of my kin.

    He is a good subject. The shot could be strengthened by using a little crop top and left to re-compose. He feels a bit like he's falling out of the frame. I also would add that you need to be careful not to clip your highlights in your B/W conversion.
    You are right about the conversion. I am still very much a beginner in the wonderful world of Photoshop. I will try your thinking on the crop. Thanks for your thoughts.

    regards,

    Gary
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    4labs wrote:
    Very nice portrait I like the color version better. When you converted to BW you lost some detail on his forehead in particular. Just MHO..
    That's why I asked to see the color. Probably B&W was required for the book jacket? But a more careful conversion can preserve the forehead detail. The salmon colored background isn't a plus for me, and I also find the wood grain distracting in the B&W. It's a great portrait, though, so perhaps it's worth some work to do a better B&W conversion, tone down the wall maybe using this technique , use the techniques from this thread, or similar.
    If not now, when?
  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    4labs wrote:
    Very nice portrait I like the color version better. When you converted to BW you lost some detail on his forehead in particular. Just MHO..
    I agree about the detail loss. I should probably give that another try. I needed to give them B&W for the book.

    regards,

    Gary
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    gpgold wrote:
    I agree about the detail loss. I should probably give that another try. I needed to give them B&W for the book.

    regards,

    Gary

    Try this technique, as quoted from Greg Gorman's site. The technique was developed by Rob Carr, I believe. It's awesome.


    It's here. You need to go to the navigation bar, select Learn, and then click on the B/W Conversion tutorial. It'll download the PDF, so if you're on a slow connection, know that it's a download.
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  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    Thank you all for the links and downloads. I'm on it!

    Gary
  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    A new crop and background revised.

    Gary

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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited March 26, 2005
    gpgold wrote:
    A new crop and background revised.

    Gary

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    This is much, much better. thumb.gif
  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    Angelo wrote:
    This is much, much better. thumb.gif
    Hey, Angelo thanks very much. You know - I say I'm in Canoga Park. but, as you know, that's really in L.A. too. Where are you located?

    regards,

    Gary
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    Angelo wrote:
    This is much, much better. thumb.gif

    OK, I'm going to nit-pick.

    The background IS better, but what I see is the reflection of the warm background against a now cool background, leaving me to wonder where the warm colors reflected on his face come from. I believe that this could be fixed with some careful PS work.

    Other than that nit...nice work! Composition is better, background is more pleasing...
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  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    OK, I'm going to nit-pick.

    The background IS better, but what I see is the reflection of the warm background against a now cool background, leaving me to wonder where the warm colors reflected on his face come from. I believe that this could be fixed with some careful PS work.

    Other than that nit...nice work! Composition is better, background is more pleasing...
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    I think this might be what you are thinking about.

    Gary
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    gpgold wrote:
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    I think this might be what you are thinking about.

    Gary

    Much better. I think you could still pull it back from the eyebrow through the hand. I still see the red reflected there, but yeah, right on.
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  • gpgoldgpgold Registered Users Posts: 469 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2005
    DavidTO wrote:
    Much better. I think you could still pull it back from the eyebrow through the hand. I still see the red reflected there, but yeah, right on.
    I see it now, still more to do.

    thanks so much,

    Gary
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