monitor suggestions for photos

RLipp69

Hello i am getting a LCD monitor which one would you recommened for photo editing without spending the big bucks should i be looking for a monitor that has P-MVA, S-PVA, or S-IPS.can some1 explain to me how to look for the different models.I am new to the lcd and just want to get the proper monitor
Does any 1 have a list that uses P-MVA, S-PVA, or S-IPS?:dunno

Poseidon

http://www.dgrin.com/search.php?searchid=948025

There are TONS of threads covering LCD's, several started by me!

I think that link will keep you busy for quite a while.

Newsy

RLipp69 wrote:

Hello i am getting a LCD monitor which one would you recommened for photo editing without spending the big bucks should i be looking for a monitor that has P-MVA, S-PVA, or S-IPS.can some1 explain to me how to look for the different models.I am new to the lcd and just want to get the proper monitor
Does any 1 have a list that uses P-MVA, S-PVA, or S-IPS?

I've posted in some of those other threads some of the following but here is the latest revised synopsis of monitor info.

In terms of image quality these are the panel types from best to worst:

IPS (newer variants are S-IPS, AS-IPS, H-IPS, etc)
PVA (newer variants are S-PVA)
MVA (newer variants are A-MVA, P-MVA, S-MVA, etc)
TN



If you are buying a new monitor, and you've already spent the big $$$$ to acquire Adobe CS3 ($700?) and a calibrator ($200 EyeOne or Spyder), to buy a TN panel monitor would mean you'd essentially be throwing away a substantial portion of these $$$ you've invested in displaying an image. TN panels, while adequate for basic image editing, are not ideal partners for advanced calibrated image editing as provided by CS3.

Here's why you don't want a TN panel for serious image editing:

• poor viewing angles (more noticeable on larger screens)
• gamma/colour shifts are evident with small movements of your head
• typically a 6bit image interpolated via monitor electronics to 8bit (posterization and hot spots can be prevalent)
• only a few IPS/PVA monitors have a hardware LUT (Look Up Table) but zero TN paneled monitors have one
• difficult to obtain a consistent calibration as a result of one, a combination of, or all of above

My standard suggested reading....

The Anand LCD Thread
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2049206&enterthread=y


XBit LCD Testing Methodology
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/lcd-testmethods_7.html#sect0


Use to discover panel types (type in IPS, etc)
http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php
http://tftcentral.co.uk/search.php?query=ips&select=panel
(these two sites are typically accurate but sometimes mfg's change panels in mid-model run)


Use to see & compare monitor screens from various angles:
http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&mo1=104&p1=1040&ma2=52&ph=8
(and the link should show two monitors that while not the best, are good)


Review sites that shows images of the monitors viewed from various angles:
http://www.behardware.com/html/cat/22/
http://www.anandtech.com/displays/
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/reviews.html


Some review sites that get technical:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/
http://www.extremetech.com/category2/0,1695,23466,00.asp


A review sites that covers a lot of displays:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/



How to search this a specific forum/web site using Google web search.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=iw

Example: Type in>> site:forums.dpreview.com your search words


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Newsy

And here are some quick tips:

Almost all 22" LCD monitors (except for 3), use a TN panel.

Almost all 24" LCD monitors under $500, use a TN panel though a few have MVA panels.

To this date, almost all 26" (not 25.5), 27" and 30" monitors use a type of IPS or PVA panel.

If you are wandering through a store and see an LCD monitor and want to check if it is a TN panel, crouch down and look up from about 60 degrees below horizontal, the panel should look very dark or like a negative.

Edit: Something like this
http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=36&mo1=284&p1=2683&ma2=52&mo2=261&p2=2486&ph=8

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RLipp69

Newsy wrote:

And here are some quick tips:

Almost all 22" LCD monitors (except for 3), use a TN panel.

Almost all 24" LCD monitors under $500, use a TN panel though a few have MVA panels.

To this date, almost all 26" (not 25.5), 27" and 30 monitors use a type of IPS or PVA panel.

If you are wandering through a store and see an LCD monitor and want to check if it is a TN panel, crouch down and look up from about 60 degrees below horizontal, the panel should look very dark or like a negative.

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What 3 monitors with a 22in display dont have the tn panel

Newsy

RLipp69 wrote:

What 3 monitors with a 22in display dont have the tn panel

Did I say 3? 5 actually that I know of....

Eizo CG220 has a 22 inch 37 ms S-IPS (Mitsubishi AA222ZA01) panel.
Eizo CG221 (widescreen) has a 22 inch 30 ms AS-IPS panel. (!!! Yikes!!! $5500 in Canada)
Eizo S2231WE (widescreen) has a 22 inch 8 ms (g2g) S-PVA panel.
Eizo S2231WH (widescreen) has a 22 inch 8 ms (g2g) S-PVA panel.
Lenovo L220x (widescreen) has a 22 inch 6 ms (g2g) S-PVA panel. ($470 CAD if you can find one, 1920x1200 instead of usual 1680x1050 22" resolution)


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claudermilk

I know there's a Germany-based site that lists what monitors use what type of panel, I just cannot remember the URL right now...

Newsy

claudermilk wrote:

I know there's a Germany-based site that lists what monitors use what type of panel, I just cannot remember the URL right now...

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/index2.html

They mention the panel type but don't often give details on the panel part number or manufacturer.

The Danish site is better that way.
http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php

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RLipp69

i narrowed it down to 2 diffrent models by NEC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002375&Tpk=nec%2bLCD%2b2070NX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002138
is the $300 more for the uxi model worth it they both have s-ips panels
is there that much diffrence in the two?

claudermilk

Newsy wrote:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/index2.html

They mention the panel type but don't often give details on the panel part number or manufacturer.

The Danish site is better that way.
http://www.flatpanels.dk/panels.php

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Aha, it was the Danish site I was thinking of. Thanks.