Swim Snaps
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Some snaps from HS swimming - Santa Margarita vs Esparanza:
http://garyayala.smugmug.com/gallery/45 ... #268137217
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http://garyayala.smugmug.com/gallery/45 ... #268137217
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My snaps can be found here:
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Dave
I would love to try swimming. I haven't shot any competition swimming yet, just synchro
Those are some nice pictures... i feel like i am not qualified yet to take swimming haha... it takes so much focus!
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#1 looks like you were in the pool
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Nikon
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Gary
PS- Nahhh not really. The kids aren't going all that fast and they're not going anyplace ... like fish ina barrel.
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Heres one I like to share.
It's not what you look at that matters: Its what you see!
Nikon
http://www.time2smile.smugmug.com
My Gallery
lol .. Thanks Awais
Gary
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legal risk in photographing sport events?
<HR style="COLOR: #575757" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I have recently photographed a swim meet as an unattached freelance photographer. The swim meet is run by Team A. My daughter swims as a member of Team B. The meet hosted its own Team A members as well as swimmers from Teams B, C, D, E, F and G.
I put the photos of Team A's swim meet up on smugmug for purchase and announced their availability to all teams and their swimmer families.
This morning a parent and board member of my daughter's team, team B, which is only a participant in the meet and not an owner team or sponsor team, told me that she believed I was violating a law by making images of children available on the internet without signed parental consent.
I informed her it is not my intent to violate any law, and that I would seek advice.
In that particular photo, my daughter is also pictured. Certainly I have given consent for her image being displayed. The objecting parent's child was in the lane next to my child's.
In other photos my daughter was not in the same heat with her daughter when I took a picture of the 9 competing swimmers.
The objecting board member was not objecting to my having taken the photos, once I argued that it was a publicly owned facilty, open to the public with no entrance screening and all parents able to take photos, and that there was no reasonable expectation of privacy. She said she was not objecting to the photography and its display, but specifically to the use of the internet for display.
Since that objection, I've password protected (code = 1111) photos from that meet (2008.04.12, 13. Excel Spring Fling and excecpt for this email have not revealed that password to anyone. But password protection defeats my purpose in sharing the photos. (you can see them at http://photographs.DrBlansett.com
Must I obtain a signed release from the swimmer from Teams A, C, D, E, F, G, and the others from team B who are not my relatives before I can use Smugmug to process and display my images without password protection and signed releases (350 or more participants)?
How many photographic releases did you get signed in your High School swimming example?
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Phil (Freestater) Blansett
I do not sell my images, but regardless of that fact, in a public or private venue the "authorities" can stop you from taking photographs, but once taken, the images are your personal property requiring a court order for confisication. As you personal property, you can do with said image what you like ... short of using a recognizable image(s) of a person for a commercial enterprise(s), (AKA advertising). Selling your "art" from a swim meet does not qualify as a commercial enterprise.
Last year in Orange County, California, some sick bastard took images of teen swimmers and posted the images on gay/porn sites. There is legislation pending in California making that action illegal. It can get sorta dicey if someone purchases an image from your then loads it up to a porno site. Although you may not have any knowledge of ... or endorse this practice .. you still sold the original image. The odds are long that this will happen .. but just be careful to whoim you sell to ... I'm not an attorney ... but maybe some type of disclaimer stating rules for sale . That was just a heads up. Also see www.photoattorney.com
Once again the parent is wrong thinking that they can censor you, (it is censorship), by playing the minor card. Good luck.
Gary
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I've done two seasons of swimming, and both the parents and kids love the photoes. Sales not stong, but kids learned to use the print screen key to use the photo in my space, so I watermark them to identify. But I dont complain, maybe it can lead to other thing that can make some cash. I've givin some shots for the banquet slide show, again they love the pics, and never been ? on the legality.
I have never been approached that I need a release for what I do. They are always password protected.
I have done other events 9 years of soccer and four digital cameras later, I have a great felling suppling memories, if nothing else, to all these Kids for their hard work.
In this politically correct world we live in with corrupt politicians, I wish that the Kids best interests would someday be the main concern.....
It's not what you look at that matters: Its what you see!
Nikon
http://www.time2smile.smugmug.com
Phil, you posted this in a different place, if you are selling the photos for commercial reasons, you may very well need a release. You should check with someone who knows the law. I am almost sure, you should not identify the person in the photo if you are selling the photo. What do you do , to be sure who you are selling to. When i sell a photo, I ask questions and require contact info, i am not going to sell a photo, to anyone who should not have it. This is completely different than , using the photo for editorial purposes.
Again, I believe you are wrong. If the photo is used in advertising, promotion, or any form of endorsement of a product/service ... those activities are considered commercial. Selling an image, in and of itself is considered art.
An example:
Recently a suit was brought against a photo who took photos of people on the streets in NYC. A person claimed he was recognizable and sued. The photog won the case because the judge ruled that there wasn't an expectation of privacy walking the streets of NYC and that the photo was art and not a commercial enterprise.
Gary
Once again, check out www.photoattorney.com
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Just wandered by and saw these. Absolutely striking. Bravo.
John
Thanks John ... unfortunately my daughter hurt her shoulder and is out for the season ... so probably no more swim snaps from me.
Gary
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That was my thought exactly!
Great shots
"Your decisions on whether to buy, when to buy and what to buy should depend on careful consideration of your needs primarily, with a little of your wants thrown in for enjoyment, After all photography is a hobby, even for pros."
~Herbert Keppler
'ere's another
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It's not what you look at that matters: Its what you see!
Nikon
http://www.time2smile.smugmug.com
Thanks time2smile, she's pretty upset ... but she's only in 10th grade so there is always next year. She's back in the water swimming with a board right now ... but can't use her arms yet.
Gary
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