Canon prognostication

ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
edited March 28, 2005 in Cameras
I a little good inside information about Canon products to come. Camera bodies: 2 generations of new sensors are on the drawing board. The first will take the 1DS to 24MP and the second to 32MP. (roughly) The same density increase in the lower end cameras as well, you we might get a 12 and then 24 MP ??D and Rebel. 1Dmkii line might get a 20D/1Ds density sensor, to get it to 11MP or something. That would be the first product, since it would use existing technology. But newspapers and magazines are the primary market for these cameras and they have already bought and won't buy again for another 3-4 years. So most likely, the emphasis will be on a fast top of the line 24MP camera that can capture both journalists and the rest of the high end crowd. The sensors should be about every 1.5 years, so we might get 24MP 1DS as soon as a year from now, whit XXD 6 months later. Canon isn't interested in a small form factor full frame camera for at least 5 years as they are doing very well with the 1.6 crop sensor, thank you.

Lenses: New long expensive stuff is coming in the fall. 800mm f4 DO. (you might have to sell your house.) Maybe a zoom 200-600. But new supertelephoto stuff is on the way.
If not now, when?

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  • gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    eek7.gif Im struggling with the 20D's 8MP file size over my old P&S. Imagine processing 24 MP. It would without doubt mean a serious upgrade in PC also if your in the mkt for a camera of this res.
  • mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    rutt wrote:
    1Dmkii line might get a 20D/1Ds density sensor, to get it to 11MP or something.

    I would bet the 1DMkII to get updated first. Think about it, the 20D and 350 XT are the recent low-end upgrades. The 1DsMkII is the recent high-end upgrade. The 1DMkII is the oldest of the bunch.

    Maybe by then I'll be able to afford and justify it... :)
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    the sensor / body stuff is as i'd expect...
    i'm frankly surprised that canon isn't putting r&d and mfg resource into decent wide wide primes.

    serious 'scapers are buying up the zeiss distagons at $2300 a pop and more. would love two canon primes: like about 15mm rectilinear and say, 18 or 20mm.....
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    andy wrote:
    the sensor / body stuff is as i'd expect...
    i'm frankly surprised that canon isn't putting r&d and mfg resource into decent wide wide primes.

    serious 'scapers are buying up the zeiss distagons at $2300 a pop and more. would love two canon primes: like about 15mm rectilinear and say, 18 or 20mm.....
    Don't be surprised. I just didn't get any information on that topic because I didn't ask. I asked about bodies and about teles. Next time I get a chance, I will ask for you.
    If not now, when?
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    eek7.gif Im struggling with the 20D's 8MP file size over my old P&S. Imagine processing 24 MP. It would without doubt mean a serious upgrade in PC also if your in the mkt for a camera of this res.
    You know who can help you with that purchase. naughty.gif
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    mercphoto wrote:
    I would bet the 1DMkII to get updated first. Think about it, the 20D and 350 XT are the recent low-end upgrades. The 1DsMkII is the recent high-end upgrade. The 1DMkII is the oldest of the bunch.

    Maybe by then I'll be able to afford and justify it... :)
    They are apparenetly trying to decide whether to have a midlife kicker for it with 20D/1DSmkiii density sensor (about 11MP). The other option is just to have 1DSmkii (for want of a better name) be fast enough. One way to acheive that is to have a resolution control, to trade off speed for resolution. So there might be a 1Dmkii+1/2, but that would be the end of it. 1Dmkiii would untify journalist cameras with the rest of the high end. Full frame sensors or 1.6 crop factor. Nothing in the middle.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    You know who can help you with that purchase. naughty.gif

    yeah? who ne_nau.gif
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  • cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    Humungus wrote:
    eek7.gif Im struggling with the 20D's 8MP file size over my old P&S. Imagine processing 24 MP. It would without doubt mean a serious upgrade in PC also if your in the mkt for a camera of this res.
    In the mid/late-80's I helped design a 5.5k*5.5k 30.2 MP 'camera' for kodak. It was 12bit RGB with another 12bit greyscale sensor set. So the images were +180 megabytes each. With technology then, SCSI-1 was used for transfers with 5 minutes per image. Part of my design was to speed things up by designing HW subsampling and creating a display API to take advantage of that. Kodak has always been on the cutting edge of digital technology. They don't get the respect they deserve.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    cmr164 wrote:
    In the mid/late-80's I helped design a 5.5k*5.5k 30.2 MP 'camera' for kodak. It was 12bit RGB with another 12bit greyscale sensor set. So the images were +180 megabytes each. With technology then, SCSI-1 was used for transfers with 5 minutes per image. Part of my design was to speed things up by designing HW subsampling and creating a display API to take advantage of that. Kodak has always been on the cutting edge of digital technology. They don't get the respect they deserve.

    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=8233
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  • patch29patch29 Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,928 Major grins
    edited March 28, 2005
    andy wrote:
    i'm frankly surprised that canon isn't putting r&d and mfg resource into decent wide wide primes.

    They also need to create a wider range for Tilt-Shift lenses. I know a lot of guys that would trade in their large format stuff for most situations if they had a better and wider range or T/S lenses. Hopefully they will or someone will make them for the Canon. ne_nau.gif
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