Which Wide Angle Lens?

AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
edited April 1, 2005 in Cameras
OK so I bet this question will generate significantly more responses than any of my photo posts... :D

What exactly is a wide angle lens and how is one distinguished from any other type of glass?

I am encouraged to try more WA shooting thanks to Andy's street work and can't seem to accomplish it with the lenses I own (see my bio for short list).

Thanks in advance for your answers and direction.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
    Hey Angelo,

    A wide angle lens is considered to be any lens with a focal length of less than 50mm. In the real world any lens with a focal length of 28mm or less is considered to be a w/a lens (don't forget your 1.5X factor). So your 18-70 lens can be considered to be a w/a zoom.

    No if you want to go wider than your current 18-70 there are the following choices from Nikon

    the w/a zooms
    the 17-35/2.8 (considered to be the best Nikon w/a zoom) - $1379.00
    the 12-24/4.0 - $1199
    the 17-55/2.8 - $1650

    the w/a primes
    the 14mm/2.8 - $1299
    the 18mm/2.8 - $1299

    As you can see these are pretty pricey lenses. Thats why my W/A lens is the 18-35 ($439.00). Of course there are the 3rd party lenses (Sigma, Tamaron & Tokina) which you may want to look at. I saw some early reviews of the forthcoming Tokina 12-24 lens that were positive (should be around $400-$500). http://photographyreview.com has a good collection of user reviews of the various lenses.
    Harry
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  • KhaosKhaos Registered Users Posts: 2,435 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
    Man, I'd love to have a 14 f2.8.

    The good thing for you is, Nikon's strength is said to be in the short focal length lenses, so you have the right camera system if you want to go wide.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
    wxwax wrote:
    Man, I'd love to have a 14 f2.8.

    The good thing for you is, Nikon's strength is said to be in the short focal length lenses, so you have the right camera system if you want to go wide.
    I want it too. Now all I need to do is get my wife into a comatose state. :D
    Harry
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
    Angelo wrote:
    OK so I bet this question will generate significantly more responses than any of my photo posts... :D

    What exactly is a wide angle lens and how is one distinguished from any other type of glass?

    I am encouraged to try more WA shooting thanks to Andy's street work and can't seem to accomplish it with the lenses I own (see my bio for short list).

    Thanks in advance for your answers and direction.

    angelo

    you own the nikkor 18-70 - that's a great place to start! tape it on 18mm - which is 27mm in 35mm terms - and you'll be shooting wide! anything less than 50mm in 35mm equiv is considered wide angle. remember, you have a 1.5x crop factor.

    shoot with your 18mm focal length, get comfortable with it, and then look at some of the most excellent glass that nikon offers iloveyou.gif in the wide angle area.

    let's see the results!
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  • david_hdavid_h Registered Users Posts: 463 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
    Hey Angelo,
    I have played with the Sigma and Nikon 12-24's and wasn't overwelmed with either. I did prefer the Nikon, but I wasn't really impressed with the build quality. It's hard to use filters with the Sigma because of that protruding round lens.
    I've had the Tokina 12-24 on order from Adorama dot com for a while ($499 if I remember correctly).
    There's also a Tamron soon to arrive, 11-20 mm I believe. No sign of it arriving in the US though. I think another Sigma has also been anounced, this one a DX type for digital only.
    At the moment, the 18-70 is still my widest lens and might be for a while yet.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited March 31, 2005
    david_h wrote:
    I've had the Tokina 12-24 on order from Adorama dot com for a while ($499 if I remember correctly).
    Hey David,

    I'm very interested in the Tokina 12-24 and would love to hear your impressions of it when you fnally get it.
    Harry
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited April 1, 2005
    Harryb wrote:
    Hey Angelo,

    A wide angle lens is considered to be any lens with a focal length of less than 50mm. In the real world any lens with a focal length of 28mm or less is considered to be a w/a lens (don't forget your 1.5X factor). So your 18-70 lens can be considered to be a w/a zoom.

    No if you want to go wider than your current 18-70 there are the following choices from Nikon

    the w/a zooms
    the 17-35/2.8 (considered to be the best Nikon w/a zoom) - $1379.00
    the 12-24/4.0 - $1199
    the 17-55/2.8 - $1650

    the w/a primes
    the 14mm/2.8 - $1299
    the 18mm/2.8 - $1299

    As you can see these are pretty pricey lenses. Thats why my W/A lens is the 18-35 ($439.00). Of course there are the 3rd party lenses (Sigma, Tamaron & Tokina) which you may want to look at. I saw some early reviews of the forthcoming Tokina 12-24 lens that were positive (should be around $400-$500). http://photographyreview.com has a good collection of user reviews of the various lenses.
    Harry / Andy:

    What's the 1.5X factor? (sorry)
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited April 1, 2005
    andy wrote:
    angelo

    you own the nikkor 18-70 - that's a great place to start! tape it on 18mm - which is 27mm in 35mm terms - and you'll be shooting wide! anything less than 50mm in 35mm equiv is considered wide angle. remember, you have a 1.5x crop factor.

    shoot with your 18mm focal length, get comfortable with it, and then look at some of the most excellent glass that nikon offers iloveyou.gif in the wide angle area.

    let's see the results!
    Andy:

    In the first of your St. Pat's pics you shot at 10mm. How close were you actually standing to your subject?
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited April 1, 2005
    david_h wrote:
    Hey Angelo,
    I have played with the Sigma and Nikon 12-24's and wasn't overwelmed with either. I did prefer the Nikon, but I wasn't really impressed with the build quality. It's hard to use filters with the Sigma because of that protruding round lens.
    I've had the Tokina 12-24 on order from Adorama dot com for a while ($499 if I remember correctly).
    There's also a Tamron soon to arrive, 11-20 mm I believe. No sign of it arriving in the US though. I think another Sigma has also been anounced, this one a DX type for digital only.
    At the moment, the 18-70 is still my widest lens and might be for a while yet.
    thanks for the input david.
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  • HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited April 1, 2005
    Angelo wrote:
    Harry / Andy:

    What's the 1.5X factor? (sorry)
    The sensor on the D70 has 1.5 magnification factor so a 12-24 lens becomes a 18-36 lens on the D70. Its great if you want more reach, not so great if you want ot go wide.
    Harry
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  • AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited April 1, 2005
    Harryb wrote:
    The sensor on the D70 has 1.5 magnification factor so a 12-24 lens becomes a 18-36 lens on the D70. Its great if you want more reach, not so great if you want ot go wide.
    Ah, OK gotcha. Thanks.
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