A little Pricing Help

bfjr

Don't need to tell me how much, unless you want to , just point me down the right path if you can.

Here's the Set up:

Company I already work for after seeing my SmugMug Gallery asked me to shoot for there advertising.

Mainly there new web site for right now
link here:
http://www.its.xvihost.org

Most all the shots except for stock skylines & landmarks are my shots.

I set up a Gallery on my site for various Management, web designers, ad men to download from.

that link is here:
http://MachineGun.smugmug.com/gallery/4823424_cLsxW/1/293830537_ZeEAf

Password: ITS3047 (all caps)

I've spent a week on the above
break down:
4 hrs per day for 3 days
8 hrs per day for 2 days includes process work and uploading. These were my normal days off.

Management is happy so far and wants to keep this an on going process of fresh images as there need arises.
So I guess that would be a 2nd pricing question?

My thinking is :
1. photo credit on web pages and print ads
2. hourly billing based on my current salary

Thanks in advance for any assistance
Ben

populus

Before you decide on pricing, you need to figure out the intellectual property (IP) aspects.

Is this work for hire, so that your employer owns the copyight to the images? In that case, charging by the hour may make sense.

Or, are you retaining ownership of the pix, and your company is licensing them? In that case, licensing by the picture makes more sense.

If you are taking pix on your own time with your own camera, it isn't work-for-hire. If you are on company time with their equipment, you need to negotiate whether this is work-for-hire or not.

In either case, you need an IP agreement with your employer that clearly spells out ownership and compensation. If this is worth a fair amount of money to you, you may want to consult an IP lawyer.

Once you've decided on the structure, it will be easier to figure out the compensation.

Really nice pix, by the way.

bfjr

populus wrote:

Before you decide on pricing, you need to figure out the intellectual property (IP) aspects.

Is this work for hire, so that your employer owns the copyight to the images? In that case, charging by the hour may make sense.

Or, are you retaining ownership of the pix, and your company is licensing them? In that case, licensing by the picture makes more sense.

If you are taking pix on your own time with your own camera, it isn't work-for-hire. If you are on company time with their equipment, you need to negotiate whether this is work-for-hire or not.

In either case, you need an IP agreement with your employer that clearly spells out ownership and compensation. If this is worth a fair amount of money to you, you may want to consult an IP lawyer.

Once you've decided on the structure, it will be easier to figure out the compensation.

Really nice pix, by the way.

Thanks for the reply

Harryb

I moved this over to Mind Your Own Business where you may get more replies.

Angelo

Ben:

If you feel comfortable with matching your salary rate for "good relations" reasons, do so but don't be afraid to up that rate by about 30% and if necessary explain that your have to pay taxes and inventory supplies out of your earnings.

Based on what you've presented I don't see this qualifies as "work for hire" so you would retain copyright on all your images.

Sam

Don't need to tell me how much, unless you want to , just point me down the right path if you can.

NOT AGAIN!!!

Rule number one: Discus, negotiate, talk about, agree on all pricing, and terms BEFORE NOT AFTER!!!

Rule number two: Put this in writing!!! (Does not always have to be a formal contract, an email can work if you have an acknowledgment.

See Angelo's post.

Sam

bfjr

Angelo wrote:

Ben:

If you feel comfortable with matching your salary rate for "good relations" reasons, do so but don't be afraid to up that rate by about 30% and if necessary explain that your have to pay taxes and inventory supplies out of your earnings.

Based on what you've presented I don't see this qualifies as "work for hire" so you would retain copyright on all your images.

Hey Angelo

What makes you think my "salary rate" isn't already HI Enough!!

However you are right and I just about did exactly that.
We have in the interim settled on the amount, I'm OK with it for now and
the Company is OK with it as well.

bfjr

Sam wrote:

Don't need to tell me how much, unless you want to , just point me down the right path if you can.

NOT AGAIN!!!

Rule number one: Discus, negotiate, talk about, agree on all pricing, and terms BEFORE NOT AFTER!!!

Rule number two: Put this in writing!!! (Does not always have to be a formal contract, an email can work if you have an acknowledgment.

See Angelo's post.

Sam

Hi Sam

You know I'm aware of those rules, but it never seems to work (at least) for me.

Trouble was here, I was given no lead time and my ongoing relationship with the Company is the reason I shot 1st and priced after.

We have however come to terms and I appreciate your time and comment.

Ben