Attention S*E users!

NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
This is one of those rare chances in any s/w development when users may actually decide on the outcome of a certain feature before it is deployed!:D

I'm wrapping up the set of new features, including (but not limited to:-) SMTP email client built into S*E.
While the possiblities of its usage can be numerous, its immediate goal is to send an email about the upload results.

I totally understand how nice it would be to have fully cusomizeable email templates with HTML/RTF support and basic reporting/mail merge/charting capabilities, but since:
  1. I have more pressing matters to attend (sorry)
  2. I don't want to make the price if S*E follow the gas ones, and
  3. I don't see any investors on the horizon willing to cover such efforts (we're talking few G$ here):rofl
let's assume it's not gonna happen any time soon..:-)

However, I definitely want it to be customizeable to SOME extent.
Some of you would like to get a brief message on your cellphones/PDAs, while others would demand the full details.
And since S*E is "no limits" app:-), sending such full details message about multi-thousand file upload can easily result into multi-megabytes emails..:-(

My current idea of customization is as follows:
[ o ] Summary only 
[ o ] Details (for each file)
	 [ x ] FileName [ x ] With Path
	 [ x ] Image ID
	 [ x ] Image URL
	 [ x ] Gallery Name [ x ] With Category/SubCategory
 
Send an email after each, files: (0 = only in the end): [100 ]
Please let me know if you see a pressing need to have more/different way of upload email customization.
If you do so - please, be specific and provide a valid business case.
Please bear in mind that this version is gonna be wrapped for this weekend, so if you have something to say - say it now (or forever hold your peace:-)

Thank you for your attention!
Cheers!:1drink
"May the f/stop be with you!"

Comments

  • flyingpylonflyingpylon Registered Users Posts: 260 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    Sounds cool... I wouldn't even consider HTML/Rich Text mail for this.

    The only thing I would suggest is that for the detailed message, format the filename, smugmugid, etc. in rows/columns so that someone could easily cut and paste it into something else. Although I suppose if they included all of the fields you offer, it might exceed the 65-character width limit for e-mail (or whatever the actual value is).
  • muddykneesmuddyknees Registered Users Posts: 181 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    Just notification of success or failure (with some minimal info on reason) in the email, but would be nice to have log file that could construct a list of A HREF tags with the smugmug gallery and file urls with local folder or filename as the link text. Maybe configurable option to include table tags in this or not (with NOT being the default), and if so, how many columns (with 1 being the default in my opinion)

    Maybe write an XML file locally showing all the otehr log info? (with the schema doc and XSD on your website and a reader applet.)

    Gary


    Nikolai wrote:
    This is one of those rare chances in any s/w development when users may actually decide on the outcome of a certain feature before it is deployed!:D

    I'm wrapping up the set of new features, including (but not limited to:-) SMTP email client built into S*E.
    While the possiblities of its usage can be numerous, its immediate goal is to send an email about the upload results.

    I totally understand how nice it would be to have fully cusomizeable email templates with HTML/RTF support and basic reporting/mail merge/charting capabilities, but since:
    1. I have more pressing matters to attend (sorry)
    2. I don't want to make the price if S*E follow the gas ones, and
    3. I don't see any investors on the horizon willing to cover such efforts (we're talking few G$ here)<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
    let's assume it's not gonna happen any time soon..:-)

    However, I definitely want it to be customizeable to SOME extent.
    Some of you would like to get a brief message on your cellphones/PDAs, while others would demand the full details.
    And since S*E is "no limits" app:-), sending such full details message about multi-thousand file upload can easily result into multi-megabytes emails..:-(

    My current idea of customization is as follows:
    [ o ] Summary only 
    [ o ] Details (for each file)
    	 [ x ] FileName [ x ] With Path
    	 [ x ] Image ID
    	 [ x ] Image URL
    	 [ x ] Gallery Name [ x ] With Category/SubCategory
     
    Send an email after each, files: (0 = only in the end): [100 ]
    
    Please let me know if you see a pressing need to have more/different way of upload email customization.
    If you do so - please, be specific and provide a valid business case.
    Please bear in mind that this version is gonna be wrapped for this weekend, so if you have something to say - say it now (or forever hold your peace:-)

    Thank you for your attention!
    Cheers!<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/1drink.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    65-limit, etc.
    Sounds cool... I wouldn't even consider HTML/Rich Text mail for this.

    The only thing I would suggest is that for the detailed message, format the filename, smugmugid, etc. in rows/columns so that someone could easily cut and paste it into something else. Although I suppose if they included all of the fields you offer, it might exceed the 65-character width limit for e-mail (or whatever the actual value is).
    Thanks for the reply. I was definitely thinking of a tabular format.
    But I think it kinda asks for one more option:
    Details Output Format:
    o CSV (values in quotes, comma-delimited)
    o TAB-delimited
    

    As to the 65-char limit - good point, thank you!
    I guess it would be up to the users to decide how much info they want.
    I will not be able to provide ALL that info AND prevent wrapping..

    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    Gary,
    muddyknees wrote:
    Just notification of success or failure (with some minimal info on reason) in the email, but would be nice to have log file that could construct a list of A HREF tags with the smugmug gallery and file urls with local folder or filename as the link text. Maybe configurable option to include table tags in this or not (with NOT being the default), and if so, how many columns (with 1 being the default in my opinion)

    Maybe write an XML file locally showing all the otehr log info? (with the schema doc and XSD on your website and a reader applet.)

    Gary


    I like your XML idea. thumb.gif
    I may not include it into this coming weekend release (time constraints), but will definitely consider it for the future updates.

    For the record: all the info will be definitely available through S*E local database, so you don't have to rely on email to get to it. Let's also not forget that yu have SM itself, from which you can obtain all sorts of valuable info - provided that you simply know image id.

    Thank you very much!
    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    Correction:-)
    Output format option prolly will be like this:
    Details Output Format:
    o CSV (values in quotes, comma-delimited)
    o TAB-delimited
    o RPC-XML
    o XML (this one may be disabled for now)
    
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • luke_churchluke_church Registered Users Posts: 507 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    Hi Nik,

    I presume this is all going to be optional? I don't let applications other than my mail client talk SMTP, my firewall does nasty things to any other software that tries...

    OK, I told you I'm paranoid didn't I?

    [I was doing some work with investigating a variant of an SMTP virus and never saw a reason to loosen the firewall afterwards...]

    S*E is looking great, keep up the good work :-)

    Luke
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2005
    Luke,
    Hi Nik,

    I presume this is all going to be optional? I don't let applications other than my mail client talk SMTP, my firewall does nasty things to any other software that tries...

    OK, I told you I'm paranoid didn't I?
    :-)
    Sure. There are/will be several "switches", by default they are all "off".
    S*E is looking great, keep up the good work :-)
    Thank you!

    Cheers!1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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