portrait or telephoto only

frosty111frosty111 Registered Users Posts: 55 Big grins
edited June 3, 2008 in Cameras
i was wondering if the 70-300mm vr is suitable for taking portrait pics as well as landscape and such

how does it compre to the 18-200mm vr

if you had to pic one, which one and why?

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,133 moderator
    edited May 30, 2008
    frosty111 wrote:
    i was wondering if the 70-300mm vr is suitable for taking portrait pics as well as landscape and such

    how does it compre to the 18-200mm vr

    if you had to pic one, which one and why?

    What camera/s will you be using the lens on?

    What lighting conditions?

    What other lenses do you own?

    Are you looking for professional results?
    ziggy53
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  • eyusufeyusuf Registered Users Posts: 236 Major grins
    edited May 30, 2008
    "vr" usually refers to nikon system, doesn't it?
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,133 moderator
    edited May 30, 2008
    eyusuf wrote:
    "vr" usually refers to nikon system, doesn't it?

    As far as I know it "always" refers to Nikon systems. It is not exclusive to either DX, FX or film Nikon cameras however.
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  • frosty111frosty111 Registered Users Posts: 55 Big grins
    edited May 30, 2008
    sorry i'm so a newbie
    yes nikon, nikon d80 with the lense

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  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2008
    frosty111 wrote:
    i was wondering if the 70-300mm vr is suitable for taking portrait pics as well as landscape and such

    how does it compre to the 18-200mm vr

    if you had to pic one, which one and why?

    It depends how you use it. It doesnt matter which you use as long as you're good; you'll find a way to make it look great wings.gifwings.gifwings.gifwings.gifwings.gif :cry .


    further note: 18mm is nice for wide angles, (hence the term 'Landscape').
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • frosty111frosty111 Registered Users Posts: 55 Big grins
    edited May 31, 2008
    ah i see
    so having both is better than having just the one or the other?

    or would u use something else?
    i also like shooting close ups, like bugs and other small things, what lense would i use with the nikon d80
  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2008
    If you have the money, you might want to get both instead of a superzoom. At least from my perspective, I think that is the better route than a superzoom.

    If you like bugs and close ups, maybe a good macro lens is up your alley!
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  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2008
    frosty111 wrote:
    ah i see
    so having both is better than having just the one or the other?

    or would u use something else?
    i also like shooting close ups, like bugs and other small things, what lense would i use with the nikon d80

    18-55,

    70-300,

    and youre all set, hell with some of that money, get a 50mm f/1.8, Thennn.... youre all set. ;)
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • Mike02Mike02 Registered Users Posts: 321 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2008
    If you have the money, you might want to get both instead of a superzoom. At least from my perspective, I think that is the better route than a superzoom.

    If you like bugs and close ups, maybe a good macro lens is up your alley!

    >< the 18-200 is a superzoom... or since when did 11x become non super....
    "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it."
    - Ansel Adams.
  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited May 31, 2008
    oops I meant both a 24-70 range and a 70-200 range.
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  • frosty111frosty111 Registered Users Posts: 55 Big grins
    edited June 1, 2008
    groovy thanx
    whats the closest all in one lense out there i can get for the d80.

    i mean i don wanna be changing lense most of the time, i wanna take them!
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,133 moderator
    edited June 1, 2008
    frosty111 wrote:
    groovy thanx
    whats the closest all in one lense out there i can get for the d80.

    i mean i don wanna be changing lense most of the time, i wanna take them!

    The Nikkor 18-200mm, f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED AF-S DX VR is a very convenient zoom lens with a range that covers wide-angle to telephoto on the Nikon D80 camera. A lot of people like the lens and it has a strong following.

    In strong light it can produce very nice images when it is stopped down. It does not perform so well wide open.

    It would not be a very good choice for portraiture unless you are outdoors with a background that is very far away.

    I would not find a single lens to be suitable for best quality. A very good 2 lens kit for the Nikon D80 might be:

    Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II
    Nikkor 70-200mm, f/2.8G AF-S VR ED-IF

    If the Nikkor 70-200mm VR is too much, then consider the Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8D ED or Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG Macro HSM II.

    If you want to produce portraits suitable for sale I would recommend:

    Nikkor 50mm, f/1.8D (3/4 length and full length)
    Nikkor 85mm, f/1.8D (head and head-and-shoulder)

    For true macro 1:1 I recommend:

    Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR
    Tamron SP 90mm f/2.8 Di
    Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG
    Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG APO
    Sigma 180mm f/3.5 EX DG APO

    For both portraiture and macro you will need to pay special attention to lighting and lights. An external flash is absolutely essential for many shooting situations and sometimes several flashes and/or reflectors may be needed for best results. Add some light modifiers properly used and you are on your way. thumb.gif
    ziggy53
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  • jonh68jonh68 Registered Users Posts: 2,711 Major grins
    edited June 1, 2008
    The 18-200 is a great lens for candids and events. Couple with a flash, it's good for low light if you know how to use it's strengths.

    For serious portraits, It is not so good and I would recommend the 50 1.8 and 85 1.8 as Ziggy has.

    The 70-300 VR would be useful for outdoor portraits as the extra reach can give some nice bokeh.

    Personally, I would rather have the 18-200 for most situations and the 85 1.8 for the serious stuff. I like the versatility of the 18-200. If you don't do much walking around photography, get the 70-300 vr and the 50 or the 85. There isn't a one lens solution. There are trade offs with every lens.
  • frosty111frosty111 Registered Users Posts: 55 Big grins
    edited June 2, 2008
    thanx alot guys, 'specially to u ziggy u helped me alot.

    i'm still a new newbie, and i wanna learn more about photography and the terminologys, like for example 3.5 - 5.6f or something...

    where can i learn more?
  • Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited June 2, 2008
    here on this forum! lol3.gif

    The question on f/3.5-5.6 refers to when the lens changes its aperature to match the zoom length. So, e.g., the canon 28-135 is a f/3.5-5.6, at 28 it remains at f/3.5, but if I were to zoom up to 135, it would change the f to f/5.6 to compensate. More expensive lenses have a constant f.
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  • ian408ian408 Administrators Posts: 21,940 moderator
    edited June 2, 2008
    A lens in the 70-200 range is a great portrait lens if you have the room to
    use it. This is especially true if your subject is not comfortable with a camera
    being "up close and personal". As Ziggy says, the 80-200 is a good lens as well
    (minus the VR and about 1/2 the cost of the 70-200).
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  • frosty111frosty111 Registered Users Posts: 55 Big grins
    edited June 3, 2008
    thanks my man i'll check it out
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