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TommyboyTommyboy Registered Users Posts: 590 Major grins
edited June 17, 2008 in Technique
Here is a link to some really top-quality product photography, in this case, tobacco pipes.

http://www.glpease.com/Calendar/index.html

Many of the shots feature a completely black background. Can anyone describe to me the technique used to achieve this effect? What is used to prevent the flash from exposing the background (presumably a black background)?

Any advice much appreciated.
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,698 moderator
    edited June 17, 2008
    Use a black, non-reflective velvet background is one way.

    Another using a white background, is to have it far enough behind the lit foreground subject, so that the light fall off is more than 2-3 stops, and hence falls to black in the camera. The key is the ratio between the flash to subject distance, and the flash to background distance, and the inverse square law which causes the background to get darker and darker as the ratio of flash distance to subject/flash distance to background gets smaller and smaller. EG the flash is very close to the subject and far from the background.
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    ZanottiZanotti Registered Users Posts: 1,411 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2008
    Barn doors (simply something to keep light from spilling onto the backround) will help as well.

    If you put cardboard between the light source and the background to keep light from the background that wil help as well. These look to be side lit from a soft box type source.


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    Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2008
    This look can also be achieved by shooting with Chromakey and then adding background of choice...............mwink.gif
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    jopapecajopapeca Registered Users Posts: 87 Big grins
    edited June 17, 2008
    Art Scott wrote:
    This look can also be achieved by shooting with Chromakey and then adding background of choice...............mwink.gif

    Will any blue or green background work? or need to have some special properties?rolleyes1.gif
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,698 moderator
    edited June 17, 2008
    So will black velvetthumb.gif
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    Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited June 17, 2008
    jopapeca wrote:
    Will any blue or green background work? or need to have some special properties?rolleyes1.gif

    Most any will work if lit properly.....it has to be lit so it does not refect back onto the subject....that way it can be cut and pasted or just recolored.....and as Pathfinder stated black velvet will work but sometimes find large enuff blk velvet is tuff enuff ................:D

    Chroma Key is a special version of neon/florescent green / blue ...first used to it best on E.T. for the bicycling across the moon scenes...........
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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,698 moderator
    edited June 17, 2008
    Art, getting enough black velvet for product shots shouldn't be too hard. For modeling shots it will be much harder.

    For a larger backdrop, I have used flat black upholstery vinyl for some of my backdrops from time to time, like this. It can be found in 60 in wide rolls if you look around

    110010637_d8TwB-L.jpg

    One has to be careful and gobo or flag the lights so that they do not fall on the backdrop, if the subjects are close to it. If they are 8 or 10 feet in front of it, and the softbox is only 2 or 3 feet from the subject, you may get away with a white background as described by Zack Arias here There are actually five separate links for Zack's complete discussion and they are all well worth a look. His description of a set for high key backgrounds is excellent.
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