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Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
edited July 17, 2008 in Cameras
Upcoming major photo ops:

4 days in southern alberta prairie - expect landscapes and macros, maybe some wildlife

5 days at the ocean/rainforest on Vancouver Island

DGrin Shootout in October

Current line up:

24 - 105f4L
50mmf1.2
85mmf1.8
135mmf2
70 - 200 f2.8
300mmf4

Do I buy:

100mm macro
1.4x TCon
tilt shift
ultra wide

Other suggestions, and reasons why?

Thanks

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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    i would vote T/S........macro close 2nd......
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  • swintonphotoswintonphoto Registered Users Posts: 1,664 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    The thing that seems to be missing the most to me in your setup is a nice ultra wide angle lens. I recently got one and am in England right now taking it for a spin. I have never really used an ultra wide angle lens, and it has really opened up a whole new world of composition creation for me. It has been amazing. I can't keep it off my camera.
    That would be my vote hands down.

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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    swintonphoto wrote:
    The thing that seems to be missing the most to me in your setup is a nice ultra wide angle lens. I recently got one and am in England right now taking it for a spin. I have never really used an ultra wide angle lens, and it has really opened up a whole new world of composition creation for me. It has been amazing. I can't keep it off my camera.
    That would be my vote hands down.

    ULTRA-WIDE LENS


    Which one (I mean focal length mostly). I can't buy the 10 - 22 because it won't work on the 1d.....

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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    i would vote T/S........macro close 2nd......

    The only thing that eeps me thinking about the macro is I can get the Canon discount on it right now. That and the bugs in my garden! rolleyes1.gif

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    Ann,

    Get the 24 TS/E and the Nikkor 16mm fisheye, with adapter. Marc knows where to get the adapter. I'll ask him about it.

    I have the 24 and love it. I'm drooling on that 16 fish.
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  • InsuredDisasterInsuredDisaster Registered Users Posts: 1,132 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    I recently got a 10-20mm for my set up. I love it!
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  • KEDKED Registered Users Posts: 843 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    Well, I just rounded out my lineup -- permanently I hope, with a 16 - 35 2.8L II. Maybe not ultra-wide, but wide enough, and it's a lovely lens.
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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    DavidTO wrote:
    Ann,

    Get the 24 TS/E and the Nikkor 16mm fisheye, with adapter. Marc knows where to get the adapter. I'll ask him about it.

    I have the 24 and love it. I'm drooling on that 16 fish.

    David - is the 16 fish eye the one Schmoo took to Scotland?

    Can I figure out how to use the TS on my own?

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  • davevdavev Registered Users Posts: 3,118 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    How much of your cash do we get to spend?ne_nau.gif

    So you're shooting full frame now Eh.

    The 17-40 is good wide angle, so I've heard. (I don't have one)

    The 100 macro will probably just sit in your camera bag after a week or two of playing with it.
    At least that's what my 50mm F2.5 macro does. They're neat a few times a year, but after that, it just takes up space.
    Use your closest ratio lens (1:3.5 or something like that) and crop.

    The T/S lenses look pretty cool. If you buy one, you should probably get it soon to learn the ins and outs of it.
    I got a feeling that there may be a bit of a learning curve with it.

    The 1.4 TC for the 300 and the 70-200 makes sense. You get a little more reach without gaining
    much weight in the bag, or spending a lot.

    So, because I'm cheap, I'd get the 1.4 TC and a 17-40L.
    You get a wider angle and more reach for under a grand.

    See you in October.
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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    InsuredDisaster wrote:
    I recently got a 10-20mm for my set up. I love it!
    I thought that would be my next purchase, but it doesn't work on my 1d and I almost never use the 20d any more!

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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    KED wrote:
    Well, I just rounded out my lineup -- permanently I hope, with a 16 - 35 2.8L II. Maybe not ultra-wide, but wide enough, and it's a lovely lens.

    Yeah, I used to have the 17 - 85 as my walk around, now the 24 - 105 is lacking that wide end. Thanks for the tip - I'll think about it!

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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 9, 2008
    davev wrote:
    How much of your cash do we get to spend?ne_nau.gif

    So you're shooting full frame now Eh.

    The 17-40 is good wide angle, so I've heard. (I don't have one)

    The 100 macro will probably just sit in your camera bag after a week or two of playing with it.
    At least that's what my 50mm F2.5 macro does. They're neat a few times a year, but after that, it just takes up space.
    Use your closest ratio lens (1:3.5 or something like that) and crop.

    The T/S lenses look pretty cool. If you buy one, you should probably get it soon to learn the ins and outs of it.
    I got a feeling that there may be a bit of a learning curve with it.

    The 1.4 TC for the 300 and the 70-200 makes sense. You get a little more reach without gaining
    much weight in the bag, or spending a lot.

    So, because I'm cheap, I'd get the 1.4 TC and a 17-40L.
    You get a wider angle and more reach for under a grand.

    See you in October.

    Eh, Davev, so like hows it goin eh?
    The 1d is 1.3 not full, but it is fast and soooo sweet.
    Not sure how much to spend. My annual 'profit share' was less than I hoped, so instead of investing it I might spend itrolleyes1.gif How's that for female logic!!!
    Seriously, I have earned about !.5K on sports so far this summer, and that is what I use that money for. Bought the printer for $350 so I have just over a grand.
    Really want the 1.4TC.
    Been shooting bee macros with the 300 lately! mwink.gif
    Seen awfully nice stuff from the TS.
    And I'll have to shop south of the border to get the proper pricing!

    Hope to see you in October!

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  • Marc MuenchMarc Muench Registered Users Posts: 1,420 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    DavidTO wrote:
    Ann,

    Get the 24 TS/E and the Nikkor 16mm fisheye, with adapter. Marc knows where to get the adapter. I'll ask him about it.

    I have the 24 and love it. I'm drooling on that 16 fish.
    Ann,

    Here     is the info regarding the adapter I use for my Nikor 16mm fish. If you want to be efficient, I agree with the 17-40 choice. However, with a bit of space in the pack/camer bag, I would choose the 24mm TS and the fish.
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  • swintonphotoswintonphoto Registered Users Posts: 1,664 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Which one (I mean focal length mostly). I can't buy the 10 - 22 because it won't work on the 1d.....
    I personally might be a bit hesitant to use a fisheye. I think it would be a great lens to have, but you might use a normal wide angle more.
    So, in terms of which one, I think there are a few options. One rout is to get a wide zoom like the Sigma 12-24mm or the Sigma 15-30mm. Or, you could get a wide angle prime like the Canon 20mm, the Canon 14mm, or the Tamrom 14mm.

    I think all of those work with a larger sensor.
    If I was choosing I would go with one of the Sigma zooms. Popphoto has some good reviews on them.
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  • puzzledpaulpuzzledpaul Registered Users Posts: 1,621 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    << Use your closest ratio lens (1:3.5 or something like that) and crop >>

    Ok-ish if not partic. interested in macro, but you're throwing away approx. 92% of the pixels compared with filling the frame (with the cropped scene) @ 1:1 with a macro lens.

    Am biased - but macro gear opens up a whole new world (imo) :)

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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Well, get this:

    24mmTS from a Canadian retailer Cdn$1629 (=$1612USD)
    24mmTS from B&H USD$1150 (=Cdn$1161)

    The $468 difference almost fund the macro ($599 and then $100 rebate!)

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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Upcoming major photo ops:
    4 days in southern alberta prairie - expect landscapes and macros, maybe some wildlife
    5 days at the ocean/rainforest on Vancouver Island
    DGrin Shootout in October

    TS 24mm and 16-35 (or 10-22 if you're still living in EF-S world) go first. Both prairie and Utah would ask for those.
    10-22 was one of my most used lenses both in Utah 2006 (30D) and Montana 2007 (40D). I also liked TS 24 in Utah, but now Marc owns it mwink.gifrolleyes1.gif

    Then 100mm macro for bugs and flowers (and occasional portraits) if that's your thing...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    TS 24mm and 16-35 (or 10-22 if you're still living in EF-S world) go first. Both prairie and Utah would ask for those.
    10-22 was one of my most used lenses both in Utah 2006 (30D) and Montana 2007 (40D). I also liked TS 24 in Utah, but now Marc owns it mwink.gifrolleyes1.gif

    Then 100mm macro for bugs and flowers (and occasional portraits) if that's your thing...


    16-35 is a waste of money for landscapes, IMO. May not be all you're shooting, Ann, but think about the 17-40. You lose a stop, but big deal unless you're shooting low light a lot.

    Either is equivalent to the 10-22 on her 1d, so it's all the same.
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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    DavidTO wrote:
    16-35 is a waste of money for landscapes, IMO. May not be all you're shooting, Ann, but think about the 17-40. You lose a stop, but big deal unless you're shooting low light a lot.

    Either is equivalent to the 10-22 on her 1d, so it's all the same.

    I am certain that right now I will only be buying one "wide", so with that in mind should it be the TS or the 17 - 40 (going to look if the 17 - 40 is rebate eligible)?

    ann

    EDIT: 17 - 40 is $819 less $40 less $150 rebate. Bundled rebates (printer/100 macro?) could make it all within budget!mwink.gif

    EDIT 2: Total $1899 and total rebate $450, right into that $1500 mark!

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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Ann McRae wrote:
    I am certain that right now I will only be buying one "wide", so with that in mind should it be the TS or the 17 - 40 (going to look if the 17 - 40 is rebate eligible)?

    ann


    Depends on the purpose.

    For landscapes, the TS. If you need something more versatile and includes auto-focus, then the 17-40. deal.gif
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Ann McRae wrote:
    I am certain that right now I will only be buying one "wide", so with that in mind should it be the TS or the 17 - 40 (going to look if the 17 - 40 is rebate eligible)?

    ann

    well if you think about it, the 24mm T/S with both shifts merged with the center expo is 16mm.......(i think)

    look it up to verify i have that correct...

    and the bonus is less distortions on far sides compared to ultrawides...(so i have been told)ne_nau.gif

    the only thing with this 24 t/s i dont like is...that since it has manual focus a 2x mag view finder is helpful (needed in my case)
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    the only thing with this 24 t/s i dont like is...that since it has manual focus a 2x mag view finder is needed/helpful (in my case)


    Live View!!!! deal.gif
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    DavidTO wrote:
    Live View!!!! deal.gif

    show me the moneydeal.gif
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    DavidTO wrote:
    Live View!!!!
    IIRC Ann has 1DMkIIn, they didn' have LiveView feature at the time...
    OTOH for the landscapes/prime going hyperfocal is the key, IMHO
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • KEDKED Registered Users Posts: 843 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    1.4 Tc
    FWIW, I have this and the 2.0 and, at least for now, stopped using both. For sports, I'm getting just as many really good shots leaving it off, and while I have no scientific basis for saying this, I think my AF (servo mode) seems more reliable. This is on the Mk III, where AI Servo is still a question mark.
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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    KED wrote:
    FWIW, I have this and the 2.0 and, at least for now, stopped using both. For sports, I'm getting just as many really good shots leaving it off, and while I have no scientific basis for saying this, I think my AF (servo mode) seems more reliable. This is on the Mk III, where AI Servo is still a question mark.


    Thanks. I didn't want the TC for sports tho, because I am able to do just fine with the 300 on the 1D. Wildlife/birds would be my reason for wanting it.


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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    IIRC Ann has 1DMkIIn, they didn' have LiveView feature at the time...
    OTOH for the landscapes/prime going hyperfocal is the key, IMHO

    Yes, Nik, you're right about it being the 1DMkII.

    I do not know what 'prime going hyperfocal' means...ne_nau.gif

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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Yes, Nik, you're right about it being the 1DMkII.
    I do my homework mwink.gif
    I do not know what 'prime going hyperfocal' means...ne_nau.gif
    Prime - i.e. fixed focal length - lens is much easier to deal with calculation wise. Simply go to www.dofmaster.com and print out a chart of HF (hyperfocal) distances, i.e. the distances that provide a maximum in-focus coverages from X to infinity at any given aperture. There is an explanation on that site of what HF/CoC/etc. are, too ...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • mackidbrendanmackidbrendan Registered Users Posts: 85 Big grins
    edited July 10, 2008
    Ann McRae wrote:
    Upcoming major photo ops:

    4 days in southern alberta prairie - expect landscapes and macros, maybe some wildlife

    how south?

    and i was going o plus the 11-16 but since u mentioned the 1D i would have to say the 17-40 or the 16-35 if u have the cashola.
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  • Ann McRaeAnn McRae Registered Users Posts: 4,584 Major grins
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    mackidbrendan wrote:
    how south?

    and i was going o plus the 11-16 but since u mentioned the 1D i would have to say the 17-40 or the 16-35 if u have the cashola.

    Cypress Hills/Medicine Hat for summer games and landscape shooting. Any recommendations for locations?

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