Selection Masking?

flyingpylonflyingpylon Registered Users Posts: 260 Major grins
edited April 19, 2005 in Finishing School
This is really a shot in the dark... hoping maybe someone knows how to do this.

I'm using Photoshop 6. When I load an image, I crop it by creating a selection at a 3:2 ratio. This all works fine, but sometimes I find it hard to tell what my crop will really look like before I execute it. Is it possible to make the cropped off area turn black or another color when I create my selection? And then if I move the selection, adjust the mask accordingly? Nikon Capture does this and I really like it, but unfortunately I've had some other issues with Capture and would like to use Photoshop.

I don't know if I'm being clear enough here, but I'd appreciate any advice anyone has.

Thanks,

Paul

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  • Eric&SusanEric&Susan Registered Users Posts: 1,280 Major grins
    edited April 18, 2005
    Not sure exactly if this is what your looking for but in PSE 3, so maybe PS6 also, you can press the forward slash key (/) to toggle the shading feature on and off in the crop mode so you can see a shaded area of what you are and are not cropping. Also maybe check marking the preview button, if one is available.ne_nau.gif

    Hope this helps,

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  • rainforest1155rainforest1155 Registered Users Posts: 4,566 Major grins
    edited April 18, 2005
    This was a standard option in my PS6.
    Just make a crop selection and then you'll have the following options:
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    There you have to select "shield cropped area", choose a color and opacity and you're done.
    See the grey area around my cropped white area? This is white, but with a 75% opacity crop shield.

    Hope this helps,
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  • flyingpylonflyingpylon Registered Users Posts: 260 Major grins
    edited April 18, 2005
    DOH! 1drink.gif

    It helps when you use the right tool! For some reason I was using the rectangular marquee.

    Thanks to both of you for your help!

    Paul
  • flyingpylonflyingpylon Registered Users Posts: 260 Major grins
    edited April 18, 2005
    AACK!! Now I remember why I wasn't using the crop tool.

    I want to crop in a 3:2 ratio. I want the final cropped image size to just be whatever it is after I crop it. I do not want the image to be scaled to a specific dimension in pixels.

    Only the rectangular marquee allows me to do this. I select the area I want, then choose Image... Crop.

    The crop tool doesn't allow me to input an aspect ratio, it requires a final image size and scales the final cropped image to fit that size.

    So I guess I'm back to square one on this. ne_nau.gif
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited April 18, 2005
    AACK!! Now I remember why I wasn't using the crop tool.

    I want to crop in a 3:2 ratio. I want the final cropped image size to just be whatever it is after I crop it. I do not want the image to be scaled to a specific dimension in pixels.

    Only the rectangular marquee allows me to do this. I select the area I want, then choose Image... Crop.

    Not correct - read my post below!
    The crop tool doesn't allow me to input an aspect ratio, it requires a final image size and scales the final cropped image to fit that size.

    So I guess I'm back to square one on this. ne_nau.gif

    After opening your image, type 'C' on the keyboard to bring up the crop tool. The option menu for the crop tool next to the top of the screen will list the various choices to be made with the crop tool. You can input height and width in inches, cm, or pixels. Just type it in in the height and width boxes.

    OR you can hit the 'clear' button and crop whatever aspect ratio your little heart desires. I do it all the time with my crop tool. Photoshop users do it better with the Crop tool!eek7.gif:D
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  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    Not correct - read my post below!



    After opening your image, type 'C' on the keyboard to bring up the crop tool. The option menu for the crop tool next to the top of the screen will list the various choices to be made with the crop tool. You can input height and width in inches, cm, or pixels. Just type it in in the height and width boxes.

    OR you can hit the 'clear' button and crop whatever aspect ratio your little heart desires. I do it all the time with my crop tool. Photoshop users do it better with the Crop tool!<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" > :D
    The crop tool does not allow you to set in a ratio like flyingpylon wants. He specifically does not want a set number of inches, cm, or pixels, he wants a specific (and exact) 2:3 ratio of height:width. The only way to do this is with the rectangular marquee (I only have experience with CS incidentally).

    There is no easy way to mask the unselected area. What he could do is make his 2:3 selection, hit <shift><ctrl>i to select the inverse, <shift>F5 to fill it with a color. If the selection weren't perfect, he could go to the history and delete everything and start over. Sounds like fun.

    I'm frustrated by this all the time as well flyingpylon. My one good solution is to eyeball it with the crop tool and then use the marquee to get a 2:3 that fits inside your eyeball crop. It should be easier to crop if there is less to crop.
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  • cletuscletus Registered Users Posts: 1,930 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2005
    Mike Lane wrote:
    There is no easy way to mask the unselected area. What he could do is make his 2:3 selection, hit <shift><ctrl>i to select the inverse, <shift>F5 to fill it with a color. If the selection weren't perfect, he could go to the history and delete everything and start over. Sounds like fun.
    Would this help???
    1. Make your selection using the rectangular marquee tool
    2. Press 'Q' to jump to quick mask mode
    3. Check your selection
    4. Press 'Q' to leave quick mask mode
    5. Adjust your selection (I'd use Select > Transform Selection)
    6. Repeat steps 2-5 as needed.
  • Mike LaneMike Lane Registered Users Posts: 7,106 Major grins
    edited April 19, 2005
    cletus wrote:
    Would this help???
    1. Make your selection using the rectangular marquee tool
    2. Press 'Q' to jump to quick mask mode
    3. Check your selection
    4. Press 'Q' to leave quick mask mode
    5. Adjust your selection (I'd use Select > Transform Selection)
    6. Repeat steps 2-5 as needed.

    Select > Transform Selection...


    Now THAT'S handy! Thanks.
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