Ok. I almost got it I think. I have been working with the extract and finally got it figured out...I am having trouble with the render light affects though...Are you using the default setting? Where are you positioning the light source? I am either blowing out one side of his face and leaving the other black or blowing out the whole image... I have to master this technique hehe
mike
Mike, I sent you a private message about ten pages long..:D
My attempt
After hours of trial and error, I've wound up with this. I still like yours better. Did you ues a solid black background? Yours seems to retain more detail, especailly around the goatee and eyes. I did all the sharpening tricks that you suggested.
Yeah..I see that now...Glad you pointed that out before I sent it for printing...Wonder what I can do to correct that...And by the way I bought the book you reccomended by Kelby...it is a fantastic resource.
Yeah..I see that now...Glad you pointed that out before I sent it for printing...Wonder what I can do to correct that...And by the way I bought the book you reccomended by Kelby...it is a fantastic resource.
Cool! I love easy to use instructions. I'd say I have ADD, but really it's just that I'm intellectually lazy!
The outline of his head is still slightly off. I didn't see Lynn's instructions. Are you layering/masking his head over a background? If so, either the way you extracted his head was a little rough, or the masking is slightly off.
In either case, the best way to make it better is to zoom in until you see the individual pixels, then do your repair work.
Michael, Here's my go at removing that orange cast... Still needs a bit more work to give it some depth, but I think it might be headed in the right direction? ginette
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
Michael,
Really the techniques I use have come through education, and trial and error. The one I use to do this for Black & White, is very simple.
First, SAVE the Original as a PSD file. This is very important, as PSD does not compress the image and therefore does not degrade the image when the file is opened and closed, or manipulated. When opening and closing a JPG file, each new change and subsequent close compresses the image further and casues loss of minute detail.
Adjust and balance levels for RBG Mode.
While in the RBG mode, Magnify the Irises of the eyes.
Using the magic wand, set at 15-20 select the iris. (To add to the selection, hold the shift key andclick) For the finer detailwork, I use the lasso selection tool to add (again shift click) or subtract (option click) to my selection.
Once satisfied with the selection, Copy the Iris selection to the Clipboard. And SAVE AGAIN Under another name, ie MichaelsBro-B.psd
Now convert to Grayscale Mode
Convert again to DuoTone, Select TRI-Tone
For this image I used:
Black PANTONE Hexachrome Black C Pantone 402C
Duplicate the background Layer, Title as "Work Layer."
Working in this work Layer,
First adjust Levels
Adjust a BIT in the Highlight end of CURVES to deepen the shadow side of the face.
Now adjust Brightness & Contrast, I added +6Contrast
+2 Brightness
Keep finessing the controls, Levels, Curves, B&C until you are satisfied. Use the Original Background to monitor your changes.
Once Happy with the results, SAVE, Keeping Layers.
Then Merge Layers Down, Or Flatten Image.
Now Convert back to RBG
Again Duplicate Background as above Paste in the Irises. Working in the Iris Layer
Save Again, New Name ie C
Adjust Color (Control
As his eyes looked to be Blue, to me, I over adjusted them to the blue range, don't be afraid to move the slidders around.
Take the copied background layer, put it over the Iris layer, and adjust Opacity, I used 48%
SAVE Again
Merge all layers and Voila. That should be it!
Hope I didn't forget anything.
I'll look it over again tonight when I get home, or if you have a problem with what I said, let me know.
Hope that helps with the B&W ginette
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
Michael, Really the techniques I use have come through education, and trial and error. The one I use to do this for Black & White, is very simple. First, SAVE the Original as a PSD file. This is very important, as PSD does not compress the image and therefore does not degrade the image when the file is opened and closed, or manipulated. When opening and closing a JPG file, each new change and subsequent close compresses the image further and casues loss of minute detail.
Adjust and balance levels for RBG Mode.
While in the RBG mode, Magnify the Irises of the eyes. Using the magic wand, set at 15-20 select the iris. (To add to the selection, hold the shift key andclick) For the finer detailwork, I use the lasso selection tool to add (again shift click) or subtract (option click) to my selection. Once satisfied with the selection, Copy the Iris selection to the Clipboard. And SAVE AGAIN Under another name, ie MichaelsBro-B.psd
Now convert to Grayscale Mode
Convert again to DuoTone, Select TRI-Tone For this image I used:
Black
PANTONE Hexachrome Black C Pantone 402C
Duplicate the background Layer, Title as "Work Layer." Working in this work Layer, First adjust Levels Adjust a BIT in the Highlight end of CURVES to deepen the shadow side of the face. Now adjust Brightness & Contrast, I added +6Contrast +2 Brightness Keep finessing the controls, Levels, Curves, B&C until you are satisfied. Use the Original Background to monitor your changes. Once Happy with the results, SAVE, Keeping Layers. Then Merge Layers Down, Or Flatten Image. Now Convert back to RBG Again Duplicate Background as above Paste in the Irises. Working in the Iris Layer Save Again, New Name ie C Adjust Color (Control As his eyes looked to be Blue, to me, I over adjusted them to the blue range, don't be afraid to move the slidders around. Take the copied background layer, put it over the Iris layer, and adjust Opacity, I used 48% SAVE Again Merge all layers and Voila. That should be it!
Hope I didn't forget anything.
I'll look it over again tonight when I get home, or if you have a problem with what I said, let me know.
Well done Michael,
good job. The back ground I used was done with a "gradient" tool thayby having it darker one side. The only thing I can see you could improve on would be to take a very soft eraser and remove some of the edging on his head. Or, make the back ground lighter in that area or both. the gradient tool is underneath your little paint bucket on your tool bar to the left. It acts like a paint bucket but grades two colors light to dark, or how ever you want it.
Try it and see if you like it.
Well done.
Lynn
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After hours of trial and error, I've wound up with this. I still like yours better. Did you ues a solid black background? Yours seems to retain more detail, especailly around the goatee and eyes. I did all the sharpening tricks that you suggested.
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My final rendition.
Cool! I love easy to use instructions. I'd say I have ADD, but really it's just that I'm intellectually lazy!
The outline of his head is still slightly off. I didn't see Lynn's instructions. Are you layering/masking his head over a background? If so, either the way you extracted his head was a little rough, or the masking is slightly off.
In either case, the best way to make it better is to zoom in until you see the individual pixels, then do your repair work.
Nigritude Ultramarine
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
ginette
ginette
Michael, maybe some of these will help...
Let me know what you think?
ginette
Michael,
Really the techniques I use have come through education, and trial and error. The one I use to do this for Black & White, is very simple.
First, SAVE the Original as a PSD file. This is very important, as PSD does not compress the image and therefore does not degrade the image when the file is opened and closed, or manipulated. When opening and closing a JPG file, each new change and subsequent close compresses the image further and casues loss of minute detail.
Adjust and balance levels for RBG Mode.
While in the RBG mode, Magnify the Irises of the eyes.
Using the magic wand, set at 15-20 select the iris. (To add to the selection, hold the shift key andclick) For the finer detailwork, I use the lasso selection tool to add (again shift click) or subtract (option click) to my selection.
Once satisfied with the selection, Copy the Iris selection to the Clipboard. And SAVE AGAIN Under another name, ie MichaelsBro-B.psd
Now convert to Grayscale Mode
Convert again to DuoTone, Select TRI-Tone
For this image I used:
PANTONE Hexachrome Black C
Pantone 402C
Duplicate the background Layer, Title as "Work Layer."
Working in this work Layer,
First adjust Levels
Adjust a BIT in the Highlight end of CURVES to deepen the shadow side of the face.
Now adjust Brightness & Contrast, I added +6Contrast
+2 Brightness
Keep finessing the controls, Levels, Curves, B&C until you are satisfied. Use the Original Background to monitor your changes.
Once Happy with the results, SAVE, Keeping Layers.
Then Merge Layers Down, Or Flatten Image.
Now Convert back to RBG
Again Duplicate Background as above
Paste in the Irises.
Working in the Iris Layer
Save Again, New Name ie C
Adjust Color (Control
As his eyes looked to be Blue, to me, I over adjusted them to the blue range, don't be afraid to move the slidders around.
Take the copied background layer, put it over the Iris layer, and adjust Opacity, I used 48%
SAVE Again
Merge all layers and Voila. That should be it!
Hope I didn't forget anything.
I'll look it over again tonight when I get home, or if you have a problem with what I said, let me know.
Hope that helps with the B&W
ginette
good job. The back ground I used was done with a "gradient" tool thayby having it darker one side. The only thing I can see you could improve on would be to take a very soft eraser and remove some of the edging on his head. Or, make the back ground lighter in that area or both. the gradient tool is underneath your little paint bucket on your tool bar to the left. It acts like a paint bucket but grades two colors light to dark, or how ever you want it.
Try it and see if you like it.
Well done.
Lynn