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can anyone help me decide?

dantambokdantambok Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
edited May 4, 2010 in Cameras
Hi.. I live in the Philippines and in May, I will be going on a vacation to the US.. Thing is that the canon 7D+EF-s 18-135mm costs about roughly 2,800$ here. And I'm sure that it's cheaper there especially in New York.

I'm sure about getting the canon 7d but not sure about what lenses to go with it? my choices are..
a.) ef-s 15-85mm IS USM + a cheap macro lens
b.) ef-s 17-55 IS USM

i usually shoot outdoors under the sunlight or sometimes indoors with my family...

oh.. and can anyone give me advice on where to buy my camera? im pretty much excited :barb
Canon 7D, 450D, 50mm 1.8, 50mm 1.2, Mp-e 65mm, 70-200mm f/2.8L USM, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon 100mm f/2.8L macro IS USM, 580exII, some sigma lenses:D

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    ntotrrntotrr Registered Users Posts: 23 Big grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    The kit is definitely less expensive here in the USA. In New York City, I suggest Adorama, B&H, or Willoughbys. Adorama and B&H close early on Friday afternoon and are closed on Saturday. Willoughbys is open everyday. Hopefully, you will not be charged any duties when you return home with the camera.
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    dantambokdantambok Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    can you atleast give me a rough total? of how much i would need to spend? :D
    Canon 7D, 450D, 50mm 1.8, 50mm 1.2, Mp-e 65mm, 70-200mm f/2.8L USM, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon 100mm f/2.8L macro IS USM, 580exII, some sigma lenses:D
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    Dan7312Dan7312 Registered Users Posts: 1,330 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    Looks like around $1800 with the 18-135 kit lens.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/647503-REG/Canon_3814B010_EOS_7D_SLR_Digital.html


    dantambok wrote: »
    can you atleast give me a rough total? of how much i would need to spend? :D
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    dantambokdantambok Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    Dan7312 wrote: »

    oh okhay.. thanks...
    and by optical quality.. is the 17-55 really better?
    Canon 7D, 450D, 50mm 1.8, 50mm 1.2, Mp-e 65mm, 70-200mm f/2.8L USM, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon 100mm f/2.8L macro IS USM, 580exII, some sigma lenses:D
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    cjphotojapancjphotojapan Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    I just got the 17-55 and it is a great lens.
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    dantambokdantambok Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    i just compared a few 100% cropped pictures from the 17-55 and 15-85 at different focal ranges and apertures...
    and the 15-85 was better at almost all? o.O
    Canon 7D, 450D, 50mm 1.8, 50mm 1.2, Mp-e 65mm, 70-200mm f/2.8L USM, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon 100mm f/2.8L macro IS USM, 580exII, some sigma lenses:D
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    cjphotojapancjphotojapan Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    This is part of a review from http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-15-85mm-f-3.5-5.6-IS-USM-Lens-Review.aspx


    The Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens and Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM Lens cleanly win the overall competition. And at equal apertures and focal lengths, these lenses perform very similarly. If a bright light (such as the sun) is in or near the framed image, the 17-55's image quality quickly falls apart due to flare. The 17-55 has the big aperture advantage - making it a much better low light action lens. It can also create a more-strongly blurred background at the same focal lengths.

    The 15-85's big advantage is the longer focal length range - which extends both wider and significantly longer. The longer end advantage is very useful for portraits where the 85 works much better for tight portraits. Price is another of the 15-85's strong advantages.
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    dantambokdantambok Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    thank you very much :D.. considering price and range... i think the 15-85 would be better for me.. :)
    Canon 7D, 450D, 50mm 1.8, 50mm 1.2, Mp-e 65mm, 70-200mm f/2.8L USM, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon 100mm f/2.8L macro IS USM, 580exII, some sigma lenses:D
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    cjphotojapancjphotojapan Registered Users Posts: 31 Big grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    Cool! It looks like a great lens also.
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    chrisjohnsonchrisjohnson Registered Users Posts: 772 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    I am very happy with the 17-55 - great match with 7D I would think.

    As for price only you know. Usually prices in US look good unless you have a business and can deduct costs, in which case buying outside US can be cheaper - it is for me. When you have no business you can choose to evade your local taxes by buying from US, slipping past customs, and risking worse local service. Imo you should be able to find a decent source in Philippines and have a clear conscience and better support for the indefinite future.

    Basically when you buy off the rack in US someone other than you feels they get cheated - either your tax people or the manufacturer who wants high prices outside US (Adobe is a real rip-off). You get a lower tag price but you have to smuggle the goods back home and deal with any service complications. You can be sure that Adobe (eg) knows when you are using US bought software in another country - maybe they don't choose to make a fuss right now but they could, anytime.

    Living in Philippines and even considering such a purchase you are one of the rich kids. Rich people do not cheapskate around - convenience, comfort, and cost of ownership are more important. Why else would I be paying $300 for a pair of shoes when I can buy cheaper? So buy your kit now and learn how to use it before your plane lands - you'll save precious time in the States by not trolling around the malls and finding they do not have the 17-55 with hood on stock at this precise moment in time. Think like a rich guy - you actually are one!

    By the way - if you go for 17-55 I really recommend the sun cap. hood, or whatever you call it - the thing you screw on the end to limit the stray light. It makes a huge difference. With other L quality glass it is delivered standard but a 17-55 does not quite qualify for L status so you have to buy it separately.
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    dantambokdantambok Registered Users Posts: 152 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2010
    Thanks for that... but I'm just getting this as a birthday gift from my mom so she just wants to spend the least amount as possible and a difference of 500$ would be huge.. hehe
    and as for the service here, I bought a canon rebel Xsi last year from the States and i have not had any problems with the service here :D
    Canon 7D, 450D, 50mm 1.8, 50mm 1.2, Mp-e 65mm, 70-200mm f/2.8L USM, 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, Canon 100mm f/2.8L macro IS USM, 580exII, some sigma lenses:D
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