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fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
edited September 22, 2011 in Weddings
Since I can't use my PhotoShop right now I reverted back to the legit copy of Paint Shop Pro x3 I know I own. PSP does not have the "Auto Color Balance" that PS has so I've been playing. Please take a look at these two shots and tell me which one looks better.

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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2011
    Also can someone please explain to me what the heck is happening at the top of the images? It doesn't do that until I save it. This is why I purchased that copy of PS CS5 in the first place. Anyone got an old copy of CS4 they don't use anymore?
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    masterofonemasterofone Registered Users Posts: 191 Major grins
    edited September 16, 2011
    The white balance is much better in the first image. It may be a tad warm still and the hue needs to be pulled a bit toward red. (her shoulder looks green) Sorry I can't help with the weirdness in the shadows. Sometimes if I am working on a tiff file I get anomalies from curves or levels adjustments but nothing like that.
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    Matthew SavilleMatthew Saville Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,352 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2011
    The white balance is much better in the first image. It may be a tad warm still and the hue needs to be pulled a bit toward red. (her shoulder looks green) Sorry I can't help with the weirdness in the shadows. Sometimes if I am working on a tiff file I get anomalies from curves or levels adjustments but nothing like that.
    Ditto.

    Seriously, you should just get a copy of Photoshop Elements if you're having issues with whatever other version of PS you've got, or if you don't want to get Lightroom etc. PS elements comes with Bridge CS5, so you're good to go with the same exact processing engine and speed that Lightroom 3 has, but without the annoying import process. It'll be soooo much more convenient for color correcting weddings!

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    SamSam Registered Users Posts: 7,419 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2011
    Fred,

    Feel free to send me a copy of the RAW file. As for auto tone I rarely use it. I have tried it and found that sometimes it's pretty good, other times not so good.

    But by using the eye dropper, and tools in the Adobe RAW converter white balancing a single light color (temp) is very easy. Also for those with color blindness or difficulty with colors Photoshop offers an info tool that will provide numeric values for color. By placing the eye dropper over a specific area / color / shin/ etc it will provide an absolute numeric value.

    As for giving you an older copy of Photoshop, that's usually not legitimately possible. Yes I have copies of CS2, CS3, and CS4 I am not using, but when you purchase an upgrade from one version to the next you are kinda using your original license to buy the upgrade at a discount, and the older license is no longer valid. If one purchased say a full version of CS4, and later a full version, ( not an upgrade) of CS5 then you could legitimately sell the older CS4.

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2011
    fredjclaus wrote: »
    Please take a look at these two shots and tell me which one looks better.

    I think there's a bigger problem here Fred, if you can't tell this on your own. The 2nd image is blue, not white. If you cannot see that then you are working on a system that is way out of calibration.
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    Ed911Ed911 Registered Users Posts: 1,306 Major grins
    edited September 17, 2011
    That's really weird. Have you tried opening your images in a different photo viewer...not all photo viewers use the same engine.

    I agree with Andy...I couldn't figure out why you would even be asking that question. And, like Sam, I tried, but didn't like it's effect, and now never use Auto Color Balance....it's never given me anything near what I would think it should do for a given image...over all.

    You might want to think about LR3...it's very nice...and, if you're in school...the academic version is like $99. If I were just starting out...and had to buy just one program...LR3 would be it. The import and export commands take a little getting used to...but, once you have that down...it's very intuitive.

    Haven't used elements...it's very nice though, I've seen it on a couple of my friend's computers.

    Hope this helps. Good luck with your issue...let us know what the fix is.
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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2011
    Ed, I have decided to go back to college for my BA degree and possibly my masters as well. After you said that I looked into school discounts. I can get Lightoom for


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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2011
    Lightroom for 99 or CS5 for 299. Might take my taxes and get CS5.


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    Ed911Ed911 Registered Users Posts: 1,306 Major grins
    edited September 18, 2011
    fred claus wrote: »
    Lightroom for 99 or CS5 for 299. Might take my taxes and get CS5. ---
    I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.992876,-78.961890

    http://www.academicsuperstore.com/products/Adobe/Photoshop+Extended Check out the link that I posted here. If your school qualifies, you can get CS5 for $179, or CS5 packaged with Lightroom 3 for $289 without having to have a qualifying school...you still have to be a student. Not to be confusing, Academic software is offered to students and faculty at a discount...but, some schools also qualify for an even deeper discount...you have to check to see if your school qualifies for this discount. And, before you buy from an online source...check your school book store. My wife bought MS Office 2010 from her college book store for less than we could buy it online from an academic web store.

    Anyway, I've used the Academic Super Store many times. My wife and all of my kids are or were in college at the same time...actually, my wife is still in school.

    Good luck with your masters...
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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    That is an AWESOME link. Thanks. Adobe wants me to pay 299.00 for just CS5.


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    mstensmstens Registered Users Posts: 78 Big grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    Is that CS5.5 design standard?
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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    From what I read, it's CS5 Extended.
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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    Well, my school isn't on the list. No worries though. Its still a great deal at only 194.95. This is a full working copy of the program right? It's not a stripped down version for students right?


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    mstensmstens Registered Users Posts: 78 Big grins
    edited September 19, 2011
    Nope, not stripped down at all. They're full copies, designed to get you used to working with their software while you're in school ;) The only difference, is the licensing.
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    Ed911Ed911 Registered Users Posts: 1,306 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2011
    fredjclaus wrote: »
    Well, my school isn't on the list. No worries though. Its still a great deal at only 194.95. This is a full working copy of the program right? It's not a stripped down version for students right?

    Yep...full working copy...seriously think about getting the package with LR3 in it...Photoshop is so much more than just for photography...while LR3 is just for photography.

    I'm just finishing up my MS Bike Ride shoot and haven't even opened Photoshop once. I shoot RAW and post process in LR3.

    Here's another program that you might like...and it's downloadable free. It's my go to photoviewer...FASTSTONE Image viewer. If you have RAW images on your PC and you no longer use XP...then you'll really like this program. Be sure to push the cursor to the sides of the image once you are viewing it in FastStone...as there are lots of option popout boxes...image adjustments, exif data, etc...

    Here's the link. http://download.cnet.com/FastStone-Image-Viewer/3000-2192_4-10324485.html
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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2011
    I'm playing with a trial copy of Lightroom as well. Not sure if I want to get it yet though.
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    ShimaShima Registered Users Posts: 2,547 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2011
    Lightroom has some great tools for color correction / white balancing that make it easy to correct and sync across multiple photos.
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    fredjclausfredjclaus Registered Users Posts: 759 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2011
    I have been playing with the Photoshop CS5 promo and I think I got it. What do you all think?
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    FoquesFoques Registered Users Posts: 1,951 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2011
    this is just plainly for the practice purposes, right? I mean you're not releasing this image to the bride..?

    If so, then i'd say you got it.
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