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Learning to use LAB color space

HiggmeisterHiggmeister Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
edited October 5, 2005 in Technique
Well, I just had to have a go at it. I read an article (here in pdf) on using LAB to achieve a Fuji Velvia effect. So, I took some pictures today with my V3 and used his technique and then used my normal RGB processing.

My conclusion is it is easier to get the pop in LAB than playing with the Hue/Sat adjustment layer. What I did see is that if I push the blue in the sky in RGB as far as I did in LAB, the contact between sky and clouds got funky. The RGB below was pushed but not to the same level as the LAB because it started to do some wierd things. The histogram of the original was fairly well centered. Now, I'm no retouch expert so these could have been done much better, but I do see some potential for using LAB. It's not for everyone, but it'll be a tool in my toolbox. Here are the two results:

RGB
50292516.jpg
Sony DSC-V3 1/500s f/5.6 at 7.0mm iso100

And the LAB version
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Sony DSC-V3 1/500s f/5.6 at 7.0mm iso100

Just thought I'd share my inexperienced conclusion playing with LAB. I had to compress quite a bit to get a reasonable file size. Both examples are compressed at the same setting.

Chris

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Comments are always welcome.

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    pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,697 moderator
    edited October 5, 2005
    I think this is an excellent example of the usefullness of LAB processing. I like the increased color and saturation in the leaves and the water. Not sure I prefer the extra blue in the sky, but it is more saturated than the sky in the first image.

    I have an example of my own here also. The first frame was shot with a 10D in Oct 2003 of a statue outside the Aquarium in Chattanooga.
    1039747-L.jpg

    The second image is the very same image with the a curve steepened at the 15 degree mark evenly and the b curve at the 10 mark evenly. Notice the increase in the reds and greens in the statue. I also sharpened in the L channel .

    38741627-L.jpg



    Again notice the improvment in the color depth or overall tonality.
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    HiggmeisterHiggmeister Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
    edited October 5, 2005
    pathfinder wrote:
    I think this is an excellent example of the usefullness of LAB processing. I like the increased color and saturation in the leaves and the water. Not sure I prefer the extra blue in the sky, but it is more saturated than the sky in the first image.
    I agree about the extra blue in the sky, not sure I really like it either, but it does remind me of some early slide film. Unfortunately, the V3 can have a rather noisy blue channel so it shows more in the highly saturated LAB shot.

    I see a distinct difference between the first two shots, but I was racking out my eyes with the last two. They looked the same, which they are (properties points to the same file, ooops).

    LAB is definately worth playing with. Hmmm, now I need to find the sharpening technique of the L channel.

    Chris

    A picture is but words to the eyes.
    Comments are always welcome.

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    RohirrimRohirrim Registered Users Posts: 1,889 Major grins
    edited October 5, 2005
    Higgmeister wrote:

    LAB is definately worth playing with. Hmmm, now I need to find the sharpening technique of the L channel.

    Chris
    Hi Chris,

    I've also been dabbling in the LAB mode and have been pleased with my results so far. I'm just a noob though. If you haven't purchased Dan Margulis book on LAB yet, it's well worth the price.

    To sharpen the L channel


    • I like to sharpen on a separate layer so I first make a new composite layer.
    • Then go to the Channel palette and click on the L channel
    • Sharpen with USM.
    • Then go back to the Channel palette and click on LAB composite Channel.
    You might look at this thread for more details http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=18308

    Regards,
    Steve
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    HiggmeisterHiggmeister Registered Users Posts: 909 Major grins
    edited October 5, 2005
    Thanks Steve,
    I'll have to give the sharpening a try. I just took a quick glance at your link (I knew it existed, just hadn't gotten there yet) and found that is just what I did. LAB seems quite intuitive for me but need to get used to what way the curves need to go for color cast correction. Trial and error till I get the book.


    Thanks again Steve,
    Chris

    A picture is but words to the eyes.
    Comments are always welcome.

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    ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited October 5, 2005
    I think an excellent example of LAB color is Rutt's finalist shot on the current voting challenge. The one that ends tomorrow, I think.

    Every time I look it gets better, mostly because of the colors.

    ginger

    (I am not being paid for this plug, it is the ab truth!)
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