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Question on Nudes

dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
edited March 4, 2013 in SmugMug Pro Sales Support
I am not clear on the site regulations on this. Are we allowed nudes in galleries? To sell nude prints?
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    jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    See the Smugmug terms of use here: http://www.smugmug.com/aboutus/terms/. I'd suggest you read 13a.
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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    jfriend wrote: »
    See the Smugmug terms of use here: http://www.smugmug.com/aboutus/terms/. I'd suggest you read 13a.

    I have already read that along with the entire page. That is still open to interpretation. Playboy style nudes as paintings, sculptures and photographs are seen in museums all over. I have customers for this type of nudes and wanting to know specifically if those are ok. :) They are not sexually suggestive.
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    jfriendjfriend Registered Users Posts: 8,097 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    dwjantz wrote: »
    I have already read that along with the entire page. That is still open to interpretation. Playboy style nudes as paintings, sculptures and photographs are seen in museums all over. I have customers for this type of nudes and wanting to know specifically if those are ok. :) They are not sexually suggestive.
    Then you should probably contact the Smugmug helpdesk and get an "official" answer from smugmug directly.
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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    jfriend wrote: »
    Then you should probably contact the Smugmug helpdesk and get an "official" answer from smugmug directly.


    Yes, as I have seen a LOT of museum material I consider pornographic but is in museums. Like Mapplethorpe's works. lol
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    dwjantz wrote: »
    I have already read that along with the entire page. That is still open to interpretation. Playboy style nudes as paintings, sculptures and photographs are seen in museums all over. I have customers for this type of nudes and wanting to know specifically if those are ok. :) They are not sexually suggestive.

    From what I can gather, sexually suggestive is much, much more acceptable than a nipple. Back asswards if you ask me. :cry

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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    Malte wrote: »
    From what I can gather, sexually suggestive is much, much more acceptable than a nipple. Back asswards if you ask me. :cry

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    Laughing.gif. But the TOS states that it can be what is allowed in museums.
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    dwjantz wrote: »
    Laughing.gif. But the TOS states that it can be what is allowed in museums.

    I asked on a specific gallery I found on Zenfoilo and this was the answer:

    http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=559325&postcount=268

    If you dare, click the link to find ordinary, unsexual, undressed people. mwink.gif

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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    I wouldn't post those on my OWN hosted site lol. So looks like the key was a PUBLIC gallery. Some I had for sale could be in a password protected album to be viewed only by those wanting to purchase and order prints
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    dwjantz wrote:
    ...So looks like the key was a PUBLIC gallery.

    No, it's made clear later in the thread that it doesn't matter if there's a password or the gallery is unlisted.
    dwjantz wrote:
    I wouldn't post those on my OWN hosted site lol...

    I find that a bit sad. I reject the idea that nudity is harmful for anyone to see and I think a disclaimer by the link to the gallery is plenty. Nudity isn't ugly or shameful, it's not even sexual. It's people with no clothes on!

    Malte
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    Malte wrote: »
    No, it's made clear later in the thread

    Malte that thread was 4 years old.
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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    Andy, I already had. And was informed with this:



    Sebastian Hosche [SmugMug Hero], Jan-18 04:01 am (MST):
    Hi Doug,

    Thank you for contacting SmugMug. That should be fine if you keep these nudes in unlisted or password protected galleries that aren't publicly accessible.

    Let us know if you have any questions.

    All the best,
    Sebastian
    SmugMug Support Hero
    ________________________________

    Which answered my question fine. And fast! Thanks!
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    Andy wrote: »
    Malte that thread was 4 years old...

    Hey, if old means the policy has changed, I'm all for it ofcourse. clap.gif

    So my example from that thread is now OK in a password protected or unlisted gallery?

    Malte
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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    That is what I was told.
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    MalteMalte Registered Users Posts: 1,181 Major grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    dwjantz wrote: »
    That is what I was told.

    Cool, thanks Doug!

    Malte
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    dwjantzdwjantz Registered Users Posts: 71 Big grins
    edited January 18, 2011
    Welcome!
    http://www.dougjantzphotography.com

    doug@dougjantz.com
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    JamesGPhotoJamesGPhoto Registered Users Posts: 150 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2013
    Malte wrote: »
    Hey, if old means the policy has changed, I'm all for it ofcourse. clap.gif

    So my example from that thread is now OK in a password protected or unlisted gallery?

    Malte

    Can someone verify this please?
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    zacHer0zacHer0 Registered Users Posts: 655 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2013
    JamesGPhoto wrote: »
    Can someone verify this please?

    Please email the help desk with specifics and we will be happy to take a look for you.

    The general rule of thumb is that there are no nude photos allowed in public galleries. Nudes that you might find in a museum may be in password protected and unlisted galleries. Photorank, hello world, and hello SmugMug must also be turned off in the gallery settings.

    Hopefully this clears things up!
    Zac Williams
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    JamesGPhotoJamesGPhoto Registered Users Posts: 150 Major grins
    edited March 4, 2013
    Thanks Zac!!
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