Chrome and Rust editing/highlighting?

photodad1photodad1 Registered Users Posts: 566 Major grins
edited March 11, 2014 in Finishing School
I am editing a photo of an old car in Photoshop CC and was wondering if their is a plug-in for editing/highlighting the chrome and rust?

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  • PeanoPeano Registered Users Posts: 268 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    Hard to tell without seeing an image, but possibly Topaz Detail would help.
  • photodad1photodad1 Registered Users Posts: 566 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    This is the car that I am working on.

    i-ZpDLPPN-M.jpg
  • PeanoPeano Registered Users Posts: 268 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    Here's a rough idea what can be done in Photoshop using Topaz Detail (Plugin) and a few other adjustments.

    rusty2.jpg
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  • BinaryFxBinaryFx Registered Users Posts: 707 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    What type of edit?

    Are you restoring? Painting or cloning with the white colour into the rust in lighten or perhaps lighter colour blend mode may be a start point, before extra touch up in normal mode.

    Do you with to grunge this image up?

    What are you trying to do?


    Stephen Marsh
  • photodad1photodad1 Registered Users Posts: 566 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    BinaryFx wrote: »
    What type of edit?

    Are you restoring? Painting or cloning with the white colour into the rust in lighten or perhaps lighter colour blend mode may be a start point, before extra touch up in normal mode.

    Do you with to grunge this image up?

    What are you trying to do?


    Stephen Marsh

    I am not sure exactly. I know want the chrome and the rust to stand out/pop.
  • TonyCooperTonyCooper Registered Users Posts: 2,276 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    There are many ways to add detail and rust, and I suppose each
    of us has our own technique.

    But, you asked about the use of a plug-in, so I'll comment on the
    use of NIK's Color Efex Pro for this.

    Below is the image out-of-camera with no adjustments. There's
    rust, but not eye-popping rust.

    i-hVQhvvk-L.jpg

    Below is the image after normal adjustments in PS for levels plus using
    NIK's "Detail Extractor" pre-set with some adjustments that I've added.
    I can go stronger than this for the rust color, but I don't like excess.


    i-q7D2hdD-L.jpg

    I don't like that look, though, because it pops the rust and aged look, but it
    makes the whole image too sharp. Too much, in my opinion.

    So, below, I've added an Unsharp Mask at 200% and then used a Layer
    Mask to expose just the front automobile with the rest of the scene
    pre-NIK treatment. This, to me, features just the front car.

    i-fMR34t5-L.jpg

    If you are going to go for this type of effect, and your subject is out in the
    open or surrounded by trees and vegetation, you really have to use a Layer
    Mask. Anything you do to increase sharpness, saturation, or detail to the
    vehicle does the same to the vegetation. That can be distracting because
    the entire image is too crispy looking. Make the background look normal,
    treat the vehicle in a new layer, and use a Layer Mask so only the extra
    treatment shows on the vehicle.
    Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/
  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,762 moderator
    edited March 11, 2014
    I like using Mediachance "Dynamic Photo HDR" for rust, and its Fake HDR processing:

    i-GHKVsRs-X2.jpg

    (This image used lots of post-processing and multiple image processing engines and techniques.)
    ziggy53
    Moderator of the Cameras and Accessories forums
  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,167 moderator
    edited March 11, 2014
    I don't use anything special other than Canon's own Digital Photo Professional (free) which comes with their cameras. I raise the saturation and contrast to extremes, play with the curves interface (making shapes like W's or M's), alter the exposure control and then finish up with any adjustments with light and shadows controls. One can always do more, like add grain or play with hues, etc., but cooking an image doesn't need to be complicated nor does one need extra software. If you don't have DPP or the Nikon equivalent, then any basic photo software should be able to do the same thing.

    i-vKzndZz.jpg

    Here's a before and after I just whipped up using a similar method…

    i-G4NJJ93-L.jpg

    i-9GwD77L-L.jpg
    My Smugmug
    "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,694 moderator
    edited March 11, 2014
    What is it about rust that so engages every one, myself included??

    I tend to use Topaz Adjust on a selection of appropriate rust, with the medium detail setting. I can then blend this layer back into the original image, either as a luminosity blend or a Normal blend, or even a multiply blend.

    One can also use Unsharp Mask and appropriate curves and saturation to punch up rusts visually.

    You may end up with something kind of like this

    Studebaker%20truck%20grunge-2565-XL.jpg

    Sometimes it helps to shoot the image as an HDR to start with so that you have an excess of tonalities to work with, like this

    Blue%2054%20Chevy%205465_3_4_hdr%20doorway%20-XL.jpg

    One can also take the image from RGB color space into the LAB color space, and steepen the a and b curves, expanding the range of tones.

    I think the OP's image was shot in pretty flat light, and the surrounding vegetation is not helping.

    Sometime the light is more cooperative, and the background is a bit more acceptable too

    rusty%20car%20body%20Nevada%20mountains_98G1652-XL.jpg

    There is no single recipe that I use for rust. I just try to find where the color and contrasts are, and enhance them, either with PS or with Plug ins, or both, until I find something I like.
    Pathfinder - www.pathfinder.smugmug.com

    Moderator of the Technique Forum and Finishing School on Dgrin
  • photodad1photodad1 Registered Users Posts: 566 Major grins
    edited March 11, 2014
    Great photos everyone. I love all of the examples.
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