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Frustrating Morning

Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
edited May 5, 2006 in Wildlife
Just can't get close enough.....dang!

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    snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Nice shots. That green guy looks close and nice and sharp. The second one is a little farther, but it shows how well those birds blend into their background. Very nice captures.
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    HarrybHarryb Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 22,708 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    That first shot is Excellent. Very sharp. I know the feeling about not being able to get close enough for the shot you want. The little green herons are particularly shy.
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    bfjrbfjr Registered Users Posts: 10,980 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Know the feeling and frustration, nothing a few thousand dollars can't solve :D

    #1 is just fine thumb.gif
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    snapapple wrote:
    Nice shots. That green guy looks close and nice and sharp. The second one is a little farther, but it shows how well those birds blend into their background. Very nice captures.

    Thanks, Snappy. :D

    Yeah, the first one okay..........BUT!
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    Harryb wrote:
    That first shot is Excellent. Very sharp. I know the feeling about not being able to get close enough for the shot you want. The little green herons are particularly shy.

    It's hard for a 57 year old, 6'4", 225lb. guy to be stealthy. :pissed

    I couldn't get close enough with the Hubble telescope!!! rolleyes1.gif
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 4, 2006
    bfjr wrote:
    Know the feeling and frustration, nothing a few thousand dollars can't solve :D

    #1 is just fine thumb.gif

    After just spending another $1500, that would go over real big with the dear wifeypoo! rolleyes1.gif

    Maybe I could talk up the 500 IS....and then reluctantly settle for the f/5.6 400. mwink.gif
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    gluwatergluwater Registered Users Posts: 3,599 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    It's hard for a 57 year old, 6'4", 225lb. guy to be stealthy. :pissed

    I couldn't get close enough with the Hubble telescope!!! rolleyes1.gif

    Now that would be hard to hand hold blbl.gif

    It's good to see the greenies returning. I haven't seen one yet but maybe this weekend.
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    ThusieThusie Registered Users Posts: 1,818 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    It's hard for a 57 year old, 6'4", 225lb. guy to be stealthy. :pissed

    I couldn't get close enough with the Hubble telescope!!! rolleyes1.gif

    Oh come on Ric get creative:D AND once you get it figured out let me know ok? Nice shotsthumb.gif
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    jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,005 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    After just spending another $1500, that would go over real big with the dear wifeypoo! rolleyes1.gif

    Maybe I could talk up the 500 IS....and then reluctantly settle for the f/5.6 400. mwink.gif
    you can try one of Bens tricks
    super glue eek7.gif has someone said one is good headscratch.gif well it is
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    evil eggplantevil eggplant Registered Users Posts: 464 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    Ric Grupe wrote:
    After just spending another $1500,

    $1500?

    What's that gonna get you? Not much. 400 f/5.6L, that's about it. A great lens, but it's still only 400mm.

    Figure

    600/4L $7200
    1.4X TC $ 250
    Gitzo Legs $ 500
    Wimberly $ 500

    Total $8,450

    That would get me (with a 20D) 600mm X 1.4 X 1.5 = 1,260mm (35mm equiv) which would be just about right for the distances I shoot from. 1,260mm of some of the finest glass money can buy.

    I have shot through my buddies 400/4 DO + 1.4TC ($5500). After seeing what that lens can do with my camera, there is no way I'll ever buy anything less. When I can afford the best, I'll buy it. For now, I'll use what I have and deal with the quality hit. One thing I will not do is buy a good lens that's slow, or a long lens that's cheap (like the sigma 170-500).

    My wife thinks I should be satisfied. She shudders when I'm reading popfoto or shutterbug. She knows what I'm thinking when she sees me looking at B&H. Gimme Gimme Gimme

    For me it's champagne taste and beer budget. I'm not satisfied. I'm sick when the guy next to me is shooting with his 600/4. I want one.
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    $1500?
    What's that gonna get you? Not much. 400 f/5.6L, that's about it. A great lens, but it's still only 400mm.

    Well, I guess I'll have to settle for that. Now if I lived where you do....I might rethink my position. Seriously.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ric Grupe
    After just spending another $1500,


    The key word here is ANOTHER!

    New 3GHZ. dual processor computer with 320GB raid hard drive and 2GB memory. Plus a 23" widescreen Sony monitor. Plus a Maxtor 200GB external drive. Plus my new 70-300 DO IS lens and well....you get the picture. The list goes on!

    So I'll have to be content with bitching about it. :pissed nod.gif
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    ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    Isn't there a song: "Can't get under it, over it, etc.............?"""

    Well, I can neither get close enough (most of the birds I have shown), nor can I get high enough (most of the birds I haven't shown such as "my" Osprey nest.

    You got close in the first shot! I have a gazillion green heron shots, yeah 400 w 1.4 extender, that I took last weekend. I worked up one, now would trade the others.

    We could do like with trading cards!

    Anyone for a Little Green Heron? a tad close (but I have no little birds, would take one in trade, plus raptors, wood stork babies, etc.)

    I think your plan re talking up the 500, then settling for the 400 is a good one, but don't forget the Tamron extender.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
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    ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    by the way, what length did you shoot these with?

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    gluwater wrote:
    Now that would be hard to hand hold blbl.gif

    It's good to see the greenies returning. I haven't seen one yet but maybe this weekend.

    rolleyes1.gifI'd try it if it has IS.rolleyes1.gif
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    Thusie wrote:
    Oh come on Ric get creative:D AND once you get it figured out let me know ok? Nice shotsthumb.gif

    Well I could build a blind, or wash with scentless soap, or get up real early and do the Indian Crawl to the edge of the pond, or better yet get a snorkle.............rolleyes1.gif

    Perhaps I'll just rely on luck.nod.gif
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    jwear wrote:
    you can try one of Bens tricks
    super glue eek7.gif has someone said one is good headscratch.gif well it is

    Thanks, Jeff. :D

    The super glue thing escapes me.headscratch.gifne_nau.gif
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    Ric GrupeRic Grupe Registered Users Posts: 9,522 Major grins
    edited May 5, 2006
    ginger_55 wrote:
    by the way, what length did you shoot these with?

    ginger

    300mm.........therein lies my problem! :D
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