smugmug is resizing my photos

Highsee3 · October 3, 2006

I've used both universal and smugmug uploader 2.1 for mac osx and both are not displaying the originals.

I upload 600x800 or 800x600 files, but the vertical shots are being resized to 600x450.

It never used to do this and I can't figure out how to change it.

here is an example
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/97042552/Original

This size just isn't big enough.

This is how it should be
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/55611321/Large

When you click "large" on this one it shows the full 800x600

Mike Lane · October 3, 2006

Highsee3 wrote:

I've used both universal and smugmug uploader 2.1 for mac osx and both are not displaying the originals.

I upload 600x800 or 800x600 files, but the vertical shots are being resized to 600x450.

It never used to do this and I can't figure out how to change it.

here is an example
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/97042552/Original

This size just isn't big enough.

This is how it should be
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/55611321/Large

When you click "large" on this one it shows the full 800x600

You don't have originals enabled in that gallery. Without originals enabled all you'll see is the large size images even if you use the -O.jpg extension or the /Original URL.

Highsee3 · October 3, 2006

Mike Lane wrote:

You don't have originals enabled in that gallery. Without originals enabled all you'll see is the large size images even if you use the -O.jpg extension or the /Original URL.

I switched the gallery to original, but when I select "large" on my old vertical photos, it displays a 600x800 image, or the same as "original", but when I select "large" on the newest ones, I get a 450x600 image.

this photo is 600x800 in large and 786x1024 in original
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/55611367/Large

this photo which is in the same gallery is 450x600 in large
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/97042552/Large

Andy · October 3, 2006

Highsee3 wrote:

I switched the gallery to original, but when I select "large" on my old vertical photos, it displays a 600x800 image, or the same as "original", but when I select "large" on the newest ones, I get a 450x600 image.

this photo is 600x800 in large and 786x1024 in original
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/55611367/Large

this photo which is in the same gallery is 450x600 in large
http://highsee3.smugmug.com/gallery/837707/1/97042552/Large

Hi, it's all explained here -
http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2006/04/27/new-features-april-27-2006/

and your older photos, of course, won't have been changed

Only the new ones uploaded since the April 2006 change.

I hope this helps!

Highsee3 · October 3, 2006

Andy wrote:

Hi, it's all explained here -
http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2006/04/27/new-features-april-27-2006/

and your older photos, of course, won't have been changed Only the new ones uploaded since the April 2006 change.

I hope this helps!

the helps a ton! As you can see I haven't done an update in a while. I think I will re-upload everything because I'm anal-retentive like that.

Speaking of anal-retentive

I do have one more question, I've noticed a color and gamma difference after I upload. The photos are lighter and the blues are not as deep, but when you view them as orginal on smugmug, they regain their color.

Can you explain this? is the color space lost in the Large size, but found in the original?

Anyhow, smugmug still rocks and I haven't even scratched the surface of what this service can do.

Andy · October 3, 2006

Highsee3 wrote:

I do have one more question, I've noticed a color and gamma difference after I upload. The photos are lighter and the blues are not as deep, but when you view them as orginal on smugmug, they regain their color.

Can you explain this? is the color space lost in the Large size, but found in the original?

Anyhow, smugmug still rocks and I haven't even scratched the surface of what this service can do.

What browser are you using to view your photos?

http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/25/smugmug-alters-my-colors/
http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/27/mac-browsers-can-you-believe-your-eyes/
http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/25/why-icc-profiles-dont-fly-on-the-internet/

SteveM · October 3, 2006

Andy wrote:

What browser are you using to view your photos?

http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/25/smugmug-alters-my-colors/
http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/27/mac-browsers-can-you-believe-your-eyes/
http://blogs.smugmug.com/great-prints/2005/06/25/why-icc-profiles-dont-fly-on-the-internet/

Would this be an inappropriate time to rerequest XL sized photos?

(Runs and hides)

Highsee3 · October 3, 2006

Andy wrote:

What browser are you using to view your photos?

I'm using safari. So it does appear that you get the profile only when you look at the original size.

I was converting ARGB and photo pro to SRGB for the web, but I guess it doesn't really matter.

jfriend · October 3, 2006

EXIF gone from smaller sizes

Highsee3 wrote:

What browser are you using to view your photos?

I'm using safari. So it does appear that you get the profile only when you look at the original size.

I was converting ARGB and photo pro to SRGB for the web, but I guess it doesn't really matter.

Smugmug strips the EXIF off all the generated image sizes so it only exists on your original. I presume that the colorspace of the image is just not present on the smaller sizes so, if you load one of these aRGB images in a color-managed browser, the browser will only know it's aRGB in the original size. It will think the other sizes are unlabeled and guess that they are sRGB.

Highsee3 · October 3, 2006

jfriend wrote:

Smugmug strips the EXIF off all the generated image sizes so it only exists on your original. I presume that the colorspace of the image is just not present on the smaller sizes so, if you load one of these aRGB images in a color-managed browser, the browser will only know it's aRGB in the original size. It will think the other sizes are unlabeled and guess that they are sRGB.

This makes sense, but my originals are SRGB, so safari doesn't even default to SRGB with no profile.

I played with the monitor profiles, and when I select SRGB, the monitor turns very cool (by cool I mean blue) and isn't even close.

I also tried to soft-proof the SRGB color space in photoshop, but it looks the same (because this is the working space)

so, I can't find away to see what they will look like until the are uploaded (not that it matters if every monitor and browser is going to render them differently anyhow)

I going to have to visit the site from a number a computers and decide what the average looks like.

marlinspike · October 3, 2006

Safari...so you're using a mac? IIRC mac browsers decided not to color manage the browsers, so that would explain the difference. If you looked at those same images on a Windows machine they would appear normal.

smugmug is resizing my photos

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