Anyway i can get a prime wide for the 20/30D

gus · November 23, 2006

No...dont tell me to get a canon 10-22. Ive had one & dont want it again & if you want to know why the use the search function.

I dont want a sigma zoom...period.

I want a prime lens (manual is def fine with me) that i can somehow mount to EFS & is equiv to 10 to 12 mm on the EFS. I saw a prime distagon the other day in a 2nd hand shop for $500 USD but it was about 22 or 24 mm from memory.

Anyone know how i go about this ?

Andy · November 23, 2006

gus wrote:

No...dont tell me to get a canon 10-22. Ive had one & dont want it again & if you want to know why the use the search function.

I dont want a sigma zoom...period.

I want a prime lens (manual is def fine with me) that i can somehow mount to EFS & is equiv to 10 to 12 mm on the EFS. I saw a prime distagon the other day in a 2nd hand shop for $500 USD but it was about 22 or 24 mm from memory.

Anyone know how i go about this ?

Look around for:

Olympus Zuiko 21mm f/3.5
Zeiss Distagon 18mm f/4

Both are outstanding. Here's more:
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/best19_21.html

Once you find one, you get the adapter from here: www.cameraquest.com

And then you focus manually and stop down to your desired aperture.

gus · November 23, 2006

Andy wrote:

Look around for:

Olympus Zuiko 21mm f/3.5
Zeiss Distagon 18mm f/4

Both are outstanding. Here's more:
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/best19_21.html

Once you find one, you get the adapter from here: www.cameraquest.com

And then you focus manually and stop down to your desired aperture.

Thanks mate but i need about 10-12mm (18mm is still 28mm on 20/30D)

Maybe i need to look into the fish eyes

Andy · November 23, 2006

gus wrote:

Thanks mate but i need about 10-12mm (18mm is still 28mm on 20/30D)

Maybe i need to look into the fish eyes

AFAIK, there are no other choices, the Canon, the Sigma 12-24 popeye. Well, there is a Zeiss 15 but you'd need to sell a kidney.

ChrisJ · November 23, 2006

Or just sell your shiny new 30D and upgrade to the 5D... opens up the options somewhat.

Andy · November 23, 2006

ChrisJ wrote:

Or just sell your shiny new 30D and upgrade to the 5D... opens up the options somewhat.

Jeffro · November 23, 2006

Andy wrote:

I agree too, sell that 30D and get a 5D! Heck I'll pay you 2 times what you paid for the 30D. You can double your money!

gus · November 23, 2006

All off topic thanks.

If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

Andy · November 24, 2006

gus wrote:

All off topic thanks.

If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

not with the criteria you have listed. Nothing to see here, back to your Kava

gus · November 24, 2006

Andy wrote:

not with the criteria you have listed. Nothing to see here, back to your Kava

Just heading down to the shop for a cherry ripe ice-cream actually.

Mongrel · November 24, 2006

gus wrote:

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

No

Michiel de Brieder · November 24, 2006

gus wrote:

All off topic thanks.

If i wanted a 5D then i would own one. Most of my shooting is sports & distance thus i love the crop factor.

Now is there any way of having a 10 to 12mm prime for the 30D ?

Gus,

you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

Cheers and good luck!

gus · November 24, 2006

Mongrel wrote:

No

Thanks mate

gus · November 24, 2006

Michiel de Brieder wrote:

Gus,

you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

Cheers and good luck!

Mick have you got some sample shots for me ? Im interested.

Manfr3d · November 24, 2006

Mongrel wrote:

No

8mm/4.0 circular or 15mm/2.8 rectangular fisheye?!

But then when you correct these fisheyes you'll
loose quite abit of contrast and sharpness. So its
not worth it. Go 5D or buy a 200$ wide angle adapter
for better quality as a corrected fisheye.

Michiel de Brieder · November 24, 2006

gus wrote:

Mick have you got some sample shots for me ? Im interested.

Sure,

not the best shots I have, but these are the ones I have online:
San Francisco

San Francisco again

Scotland - Edinburgh

Hooverdam

Sequoia Tree, yours truly lying in the dirt

Hope this helps

DoctorIt · November 24, 2006

the Nikkor 10.5mm DX is an awesome lens.

why do you hate Sigma's so much, btw? I've taken a ton of fantastic photos with my Sigma zooms. Aside from my 70-200VR, the Sigma 18-50/2.8 and 100-300/4 (both top shelf EX models, but far le$$ than L or Nikkor AF-S glass) were the best lenses I've ever owned.

they have two offerings,
diagonal fish:
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3279&navigator=4

circular fish:
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3319&navigator=4

Mongrel · November 24, 2006

No Problem...

gus wrote:

Thanks mate

Hope you didn't take my reply the wrong way Gus.

After reading the OT discourse and feeling a certain frustration, I figured you may as well get it straight.

I searched for one myself before, and couldn't find *anybody* who made a 'normal' 10mm-12mm prime in a Canon mount.

It is my understanding that you are not looking for a fisheye, so I didn't bother mentioning them.

The Canon 14mm f/2.8L is the widest prime I know of in a Canon mount at the moment.

You asked for 10mm-12mm, I've never seen one.

Mongrel · November 24, 2006

Here's a related discussion...
over at FM:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/477372

Discussing Canon, Tamron, and Sigma 14mm lenses. Has a bunch of example shots that look interesting.

Here's another thought-you said you want to keep the APS-C for "sports" etc. so the 5D is a no-go. But have you considered the
1D MkII? A 14mm mounted on a 1D gets you 18mm. That's pretty darn wide...and the 1D will *smoke* the 30D for sports.

Just a thought...

gus · November 24, 2006

Mongrel wrote:

Hope you didn't take my reply the wrong way Gus.

After reading the OT discourse and feeling a certain frustration, I figured you may as well get it straight.

.

Not at all mate...i like direct answers, thats what i wanted. The other info is great also but i do like to find out if im chasing my own tail up front.

Andy · November 24, 2006

gus wrote:

but i do like to find out if im chasing my own tail up front.

but you said you liked that

gus · November 24, 2006

Andy wrote:

but you said you liked that

Youve been keeping that gif for a long time wanting to use it havnt you ?

gus · November 24, 2006

Mongrel wrote:

over at FM:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/477372

Discussing Canon, Tamron, and Sigma 14mm lenses. Has a bunch of example shots that look interesting.

Here's another thought-you said you want to keep the APS-C for "sports" etc. so the 5D is a no-go. But have you considered the
1D MkII? A 14mm mounted on a 1D gets you 18mm. That's pretty darn wide...and the 1D will *smoke* the 30D for sports.

Just a thought...

Tks ...they had a very interesting link
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/14mm/14mm_test.html

David_S85 · November 24, 2006

A linkie for Gus

EDIT: another on the peleng 8mm for mounting to Canon. Make sure you read all three pages of the review, including the de-fishing parts. Note: The newest version of the PTLens plug-in easily supports this lens, correcting for all sorts of fishy problems.

Andy · November 24, 2006

gus wrote:

Tks ...they had a very interesting link
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/14mm/14mm_test.html

d00d, 16-9 is a great site- I linked it to you yesterday but you were busy chasing your tail

Matthew Saville · November 24, 2006

Andy wrote:

d00d, 16-9 is a great site- I linked it to you yesterday but you were busy chasing your tail

Reading the linked review, I love this site already. Honest but slightly witty, just how I like it!

-Matt-

Red Bull · November 27, 2006

Michiel de Brieder wrote:

Gus,

you may want to consider the 8mm Peleng, it is an awesome lens, it is a fisheye though, so you'll need to do some post work, but it is well worth it! I bought mine for €169,-

Cheers and good luck!

If you ever decide to sell that Peleng, I may be interested (That is, if I don't go ahead and buy one before you decide to sell it...if you ever do)

Michiel de Brieder · November 29, 2006

Red Bull wrote:

If you ever decide to sell that Peleng, I may be interested (That is, if I don't go ahead and buy one before you decide to sell it...if you ever do)

Hiya 'Bull

not any time soon

cheers mate

Anyway i can get a prime wide for the 20/30D

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