Which one do you like?

GraphyFotoz · December 31, 2004

Practicing with my 828 and trying to be creative.

Cloudy overcast day worked to my advange?

How did I do? HONEST FEEDBACK PLEASE!

Hummm.....gotta think of a name for this one! :confused

Color:

Septa:

B&W:

DBot · January 2, 2005

Pretty Good
The black and white seemed the sharpest.
The color rendition looked like it was overdone.
More post proccessing isn't always better.

I liked the picture nevertheless.

gubbs · January 2, 2005

Th colour looks like you've forced it too much in post, were the trees originally too dark?? I like the composition

but think the shot needs more contrast to work in BW or sepia..... can we have a look a the original ??

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

Here is the EXIF Report from ACDSee 7.0
All I did in Post is bump the contrast for impact cuz it looked a bit dull.
This is for the color one.
Does this help?

Camera
Make SONY
Model DSC-F828
Orientation Upper Left
X resolution 72/1
Y resolution 72/1
Resolution unit inches
Date/time 12/31/2004 9:49:37 AM
YCbCr positioning co-sited
Image
Image description
Artist
Copyright
Exposure time 1/30 s
F-number f/5
Exposure program Normal program
ISO speed ratings 100
Date/time original 12/31/2004 9:49:37 AM
Date/time digitized 12/31/2004 9:49:37 AM
Component config YCbCr
Compressed BPP 4
Max. aperture value f/2
Metering mode Pattern
Light source Cloudy weather
Flash Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal length 26.2 mm
User comment
Colorspace sRGB
Pixel X dimension 3264
Pixel Y dimension 2448
Scene type A directly photographed image
Custom Rendered Custom process
Exposure mode Auto exposure
White balance Manual white balance
Scene capture type Standard
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness Normal
Miscellaneous
Exif version 2.2

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

Grubb
I showed the original B&W and Septa to a few PPL and they said they lacked Contrast. So I already added contrast to those. My original B&W which was a color photo that I monochromed was GREY and lacked definition.
(I miss the B&W mode of my old FD97....828 don't have it)

So bottom line is that they were all a bit dull till some contrast was shot into them. Basically made details of each pic standout more.

gubbs wrote:

Th colour looks like you've forced it too much in post, were the trees originally too dark?? I like the composition but think the shot needs more contrast to work in BW or sepia..... can we have a look a the original ??

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

Here compair

gubbs wrote:

Th colour looks like you've forced it too much in post, were the trees originally too dark?? I like the composition but think the shot needs more contrast to work in BW or sepia..... can we have a look a the original ??

All I saved is the original color pic but it's about as DULL as the others were.

Original before Post:

After Post and Contrast Enhance:

lynnma · January 2, 2005

Karz wrote:

All I saved is the original color pic but it's about as DULL as the others were.

Original before Post:

After Post and Contrast Enhance:

If you look in the trees you can see where the pixels are distorted.. looks like it's been reduced a lot.. did you try using "curves" to bring out the color/contrast etc? Keep at it..

lynnma · January 2, 2005

lynnma wrote:

If you look in the trees you can see where the pixels are distorted.. looks like it's been reduced a lot.. did you try using "curves" to bring out the color/contrast etc? Keep at it..

I quick grabbed it and tried a "curve" on it only...

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

YIKES LYNN! Now I see it.
Somebody slap me will ya!!! :bash

That looks like ........well you know. :puke1

lynnma wrote:

If you look in the trees you can see where the pixels are distorted.. looks like it's been reduced a lot.. did you try using "curves" to bring out the color/contrast etc? Keep at it..

lynnma · January 2, 2005

lynnma wrote:

I quick grabbed it and tried a "curve" on it only...

Here is how I did it..in case you are not familiar with curves..

lynnma · January 2, 2005

Trust me... I know exactly how you did that.. focusing on the bench.. I do it all the time and miss huge mistakes.. thats the fun of this site.. others will see what you don't

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

Here is my fix....
Lynn you curve fix looks too dark to me.

See if you like this?

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

Sorry!
All I know is PaintShop Pro 8.1. Photoshop CS is real confusing for me.
I have it but haven't had the time or patients to learn it.
Was thinking about tring to learn PhotoShop Elements 3.0.
Is it a bit easier to learn?

THANX for your help.
These Post programs are harder to learn than photography itself!

BTW:
Lynn do you have AIM (AOL Instant Messenger)
You can DL it from AOL's site and use it as a seperate program.
I'm on there as KitKarz

lynnma wrote:

Here is how I did it..in case you are not familiar with curves..

lynnma · January 2, 2005

Karz wrote:

All I know is PaintShop Pro 8.1. Photoshop CS is real confusing for me.
I have it but haven't had the time or patients to learn it.
Was thinking about tring to learn PhotoShop Elements 3.0.
Is it a bit easier to learn?

THANX for your help.
These Post programs are harder to learn than photography itself!

BTW:
Lynn do you have AIM (AOL Instant Messenger)
You can DL it from AOL's site and use it as a seperate program.
I'm on there as KitKarz

sorry bout the curve.. it was just a quicky thing.. Photoshop Elements is good.. I've always used photoshop so I'm biased and no sorry I don't have AOL..

GraphyFotoz · January 2, 2005

Don't be sorry!
Each person has their own idea about a subject!
I just didn't want it too dark to take away from the mood.
What I did on the 1st one was a REAL flub! :bash

I guess I'll hafta take some time to get to know CS.
IIRC it slowed my computer WAY down cuz it shares my 512mb of Ram.

I value your input so don't :gun2 me!

I just have a LOT to learn with serious post processing.

But hey I'm trying!!

Im not new to Cameras or Photography but these photo programs can be a REAL PITA to learn!!!

lynnma wrote:

sorry bout the curve.. it was just a quicky thing.. Photoshop Elements is good.. I've always used photoshop so I'm biased and no sorry I don't have AOL..

gubbs · January 3, 2005

Karz wrote:

All I know is PaintShop Pro 8.1. Photoshop CS is real confusing for me.
I have it but haven't had the time or patients to learn it.
Was thinking about tring to learn PhotoShop Elements 3.0.
Is it a bit easier to learn?

THANX for your help.
These Post programs are harder to learn than photography itself!

BTW:
Lynn do you have AIM (AOL Instant Messenger)
You can DL it from AOL's site and use it as a seperate program.
I'm on there as KitKarz

Hi Karz,

The programs seem a little overwhelming to start with, but once you've learnt a few basics its amazing what you can achieve. I started off using photoimpact which I found to be OK but swapped to Photoshop mainly because of the help/advice/tutorials that are available here on DGrin and all over the web.
I had a go at your pictures too, hope you don't mind

I wasn't sure if you have curves on paintshop, so I only used a levels adjustment, and then increased the saturation slightly (I also sharpened it up a little to bring out the detail on the bench)

GraphyFotoz · January 3, 2005

Wowzers!!!!
Those look GREAT!!!

I sent you a email.

wxwax · January 3, 2005

Nice work, Gubbsie!

TheSenator · January 3, 2005

I like both the color and the B&W, but the mood just doesn't seem to fit the bench. The lines are awesome and I like the framing of the shot, but its an old, warn, semi-moldy chair that looks like its been there for ages. The surroundings of this shot just feel kinda happy (I think its the grass). If this were shot with snow or early morning fog that is about 6 inches above the ground it would enhance the old and warn feeling. It would also cover the grass. Its just my opinion, I just think that the liveliness of everything around it doesn't contrast well with the deadness of the bench.

Ah, thought of an example. Which would make the tower of London look better, a semi-dreary day with some fog, or a well lit day with happy green grass?

GraphyFotoz · January 3, 2005

Lynnma thanx!
PS CS is way beyond me at this point!
I started to play with it but wowzers is it FULL of stuff to learn!!

I guess I gotta sit down and goof with it a LOT!

lynnma wrote:

Here is how I did it..in case you are not familiar with curves..

Which one do you like?

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