Zip, you're a world class shooter and we're honored to have you here, however, I have to stand up for amadeus.
a) all the images are linked, i.e. not taking up any dgrin server space
b) they're confined to one thread
c) this is amadeus' style. he's got a new camera, he likes bikes, and he's a good guy.
d) if you don't like the thread, click on, but please don't tell our members what they should or shouldn't be posting.
thanks.
back to the thread...
Doood!
some fan-freaking tastic images in that set!! You and the new Nikon seem to be getting along very well. I see huge improvements from your first outing (at the same track?).
You're focus-tracking is getting way better, did you figure out how to switch to servo-mode (or whatever its called in Nikon)? It shows.
Looks like you had some sweet afternoon light in a lot of those shots as well.
Hey man..
I think you missed my point but it's irrelevant.
In all honesty mate, he's not doing himself any favours because in essence, some are just going to scan all these images and go "oh well"..
As for space, style whatever, I'm all for improving ones skill level and talent and will help anyone who asks for it, and he does have some nice images in there, but they need to be weeded out as theres some junk in there also. Sorry to be harsh but that's the way it is in the real world mate.
As for telling folks what they should or shouldn't be posting, I wasn't per se, just suggesting that to gain maximum exposure and to gain additonal focus on ones work, it doesn't serve the "poster" any good to flood and also use other people's words (which is plagarism at best) and expect no one to say anything.
I'll go away now.
Andrew
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Zip, you're a world class shooter and we're honored to have you here, however, I have to stand up for amadeus.
a) all the images are linked, i.e. not taking up any dgrin server space
b) they're confined to one thread
c) this is amadeus' style. he's got a new camera, he likes bikes, and he's a good guy.
d) if you don't like the thread, click on, but please don't tell our members what they should or shouldn't be posting.
thanks.
back to the thread...
Doood!
some fan-freaking tastic images in that set!! You and the new Nikon seem to be getting along very well. I see huge improvements from your first outing (at the same track?).
You're focus-tracking is getting way better, did you figure out how to switch to servo-mode (or whatever its called in Nikon)? It shows.
Looks like you had some sweet afternoon light in a lot of those shots as well.
yo. actually I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night..
Home run Pedroia. Red Sox up by 3.
thanks for the praise. I'm very happy with the results. I think the improvements came from 2 things. More lens and closer proximity to the subject, and made sure I was focused using the autofocus on every shot as much as possible. dude some of the vertical shots which the camera automaticaly makes upright without my having to, just don't come across good here and on the mug. when I was looking at them on my PC screem before I uploaded they were really sweet. Same track, but they change it around a little here and there so I was able to get up close with great light, not a cloud in the sky. still shooting auto on the sports setting. I shot 450 shots on a day when I went from staying home to "work on the house at 9:15" to walking out the door at 9:30. battery was fresh but not %100 and still held up. Really like the camera.
I think Maczippy just doesn't know my style like you said, but its the only way I know.
I also think he doesn't like Celine.
So g'day and all that. When are you having us over?
Yeah check out the vertical shots on original some of them are really cool.
Sorry to have made you feel this way. But, maybe you misunderstood me? I'm just trying to do my job as a mod and make everyone feel welcome here, even those that just want to post up lots of photos.
... some of the vertical shots which the camera automaticaly makes upright without my having to, just don't come across good here and on the mug. when I was looking at them on my PC screem before I uploaded they were really sweet.
same sensor, just rotated, so I think this is just a perceived thing, maybe because SM, by default, makes portraits smaller?
that little rider is definitely eyeing you, a great catch
I think you mods have the patience of Job. Personally, I thought zip was kind and given his level of work and the fact that he shares it here for us to learn from and--for some of us--to find inspiration in, I thought it was really cool he'd make the effort.
But hey, I suppose you can't argue with amadeus' "success." going on 70 replies to his thread (well, I haven't counted how many of those are his) and some great constructive criticism offered (which he largely chooses to ignore) on how to get better. Shoot, I post a thread and feel lucky that 2 people reply. Maybe I gotta learn from amadeus.
Sorry to have made you feel this way. But, maybe you misunderstood me? I'm just trying to do my job as a mod and make everyone feel welcome here, even those that just want to post up lots of photos.
I didn't mean I'd leave this group!! I meant I had said enough and it was time to move on...
I enjoy being part of this group too much...
Andrew
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As for space, style whatever, I'm all for improving ones skill level and talent and will help anyone who asks for it, and he does have some nice images in there, but they need to be weeded out as theres some junk in there also. Sorry to be harsh but that's the way it is in the real world mate.
I'll agree with Andrew. There were some nice images in there but a lot of junk as well. But with so many images it was just impossible to critique any. Exposures were not consistently good. Too many cropped heads on jump shots. A lot of the action shots had strange compositions.
I'll agree with Andrew. There were some nice images in there but a lot of junk as well. But with so many images it was just impossible to critique any. Exposures were not consistently good. Too many cropped heads on jump shots. A lot of the action shots had strange compositions.
let me help you out a little this has obviously been difficult for you.
there was one cropped head. I guess one is to many.
the first time he came by and looked down at me I missed him. I was definitely ready the second time. when you are that close to that kind of action you take what you can get. personally I'm thrilled with the shot cropped head and all. I even found him in the pits and got his email and am sending it to him. I consider it the best shot of the group given the dynamics. I suppose jumping 10 feet in the air on a motorcycle and looking down at a photographer and hanging your leg off the bike is common practice in Austin Texas but in my boring world it was quite a thrill to be a part of. Even being on the safe side of the lens. One mans junk is another mans treasure. And by the way exposures were consistently via Auto. I put myself in the position to take those shots. If hadn't have been there they wouldn't have been taken. As far as strange composition on action shots, I wasn't shooting a bowl of fruit. Its motocross. Not freestyle pose for the camera nonsense. A motocross race.
But hey, I suppose you can't argue with amadeus' "success." going on 70 replies to his thread (well, I haven't counted how many of those are his) and some great constructive criticism offered (which he largely chooses to ignore) on how to get better.
I get a little cocky when my threads reach the 1,000,000 hit count.
as for ignoring constructive criticism. if telling someone they posted too many pictures and some of them are junk is going to help me be a better photographer, then I guess I have a lot to learn about digital photography.
You having cropping issues on images 13, 34, 46 and 51. It's not just one image.... If you found only one image with a crop issue then you need to be a little more critical of your work. That is what this forum is about.
And by the way exposures were consistently via Auto. I put myself in the position to take those shots. If hadn't have been there they wouldn't have been taken. As far as strange composition on action shots, I wasn't shooting a bowl of fruit. Its motocross. Not freestyle pose for the camera nonsense. A motocross race.
I'm going to help you out a bit here with some comments on these photos. They really could use some help. I'm sorry, but Andrew is right, they are not as good as you think they are. And that is what these forums are about, right? Becoming a better photographer?
Using auto exposure on your camera is not going to make for consistent exposures of your images. I'm sorry but that's just the way it is. You had some photos that were great on exposure, some were over-exposed, some were underexposed. That's what post-production work is all about. I can tell you just took the images off the camera and did nothing to them. *If* you want good images this won't do, no matter how good your camera is. You will need to tweak on the computer.
Images 12, 15, 16, 19, 21, 22, 25, 26, 39, 52 and 53 have exposure issues. Most were over-exposed, a handful were under-exposed.
As far as composition goes who cares if this isn't a bowl of fruit? Composition counts for every type of photography, including motocross. Take a look at Andrew's site and you'll start to understand. Look at images 7, 10 and 37 for starters. One of the things drilled into my head when I first started doing photography in motocross, and later football, was composition and framing. It makes a ton of difference in the impact of a photo, even if its not a bowl of fruit.
You have a relatively nice selection of snap shots there. Do you want them to get better still?
You having cropping issues on images 13, 34, 46 and 51. It's not just one image.... If you found only one image with a crop issue then you need to be a little more critical of your work. That is what this forum is about.
I'm going to help you out a bit here with some comments on these photos. They really could use some help. I'm sorry, but Andrew is right, they are not as good as you think they are. And that is what these forums are about, right? Becoming a better photographer?
Using auto exposure on your camera is not going to make for consistent exposures of your images. I'm sorry but that's just the way it is. You had some photos that were great on exposure, some were over-exposed, some were underexposed. That's what post-production work is all about. I can tell you just took the images off the camera and did nothing to them. *If* you want good images this won't do, no matter how good your camera is. You will need to tweak on the computer.
Images 12, 15, 16, 19, 21, 22, 25, 26, 39, 52 and 53 have exposure issues. Most were over-exposed, a handful were under-exposed.
As far as composition goes who cares if this isn't a bowl of fruit? Composition counts for every type of photography, including motocross. Take a look at Andrew's site and you'll start to understand. Look at images 7, 10 and 37 for starters. One of the things drilled into my head when I first started doing photography in motocross, and later football, was composition and framing. It makes a ton of difference in the impact of a photo, even if its not a bowl of fruit.
You have a relatively nice selection of snap shots there. Do you want them to get better still?
you said too many cropped heads on jump shots. I said only one meaning jump shots. Andrew never said they weren't as good as I thought they were, as I never said they were "good". I said I was happy with the results and I am.
1. Andrew is a professional. Maybe he can act like one. I'm not impressed with his website or his work. If you are so be it. I could really care less about a "professional" who could be so petty to make issue of my borderline plagarism (according to him).
this website is about a lot of things. and sharing shhots is one of them. I'm open to criticism but Andrew never offered any. But I'm not exactly losing sleep over it.
I post these pics as a MOTORCYCLIST not a photographer. I spent 2 hours tomight looking for the folded up piece of paper with 5 email address's of the riders I chatted up. Including this kid
from the Berkshires who came 2 hours with his dad to get lapped by some very fast mini riders like this guy
who even at this age is riding with one finger on the clutch. 2 hours I looked for that piece of paper that was right under my nose just so I could be able to send the link to the gallery like I told them I would. that is what is important to me. Not cropping. I don't know how. Some of these pics were stuffed on purpose. How else do you get a perspective like this.
whos father happens to be #1.
I'm not saying these pics are good. I'm saying I'm thrilled with the results.
If you are happy with these photos, I think that's just great. Your last few shots have been really nice. Much better than most of the stuff you posted in your first wave.
Why don't you post your photos and request that nobody critique them? You seem overly sensitive about suggestions people have given you on how to IMPROVE your shots.
You said "Andrew is a professional. Maybe he can act like one. I'm not impressed with his website or his work." I'm not sure what the point of this comment is, but you need to open your eyes and see that his shots are excellent. There's a professional quality to them that your shots lack. You may want to accept advice instead of being so defensive.
1. Andrew is a professional. Maybe he can act like one. I'm not impressed with his website or his work.
Not impressed with Andrew's work? You're the first I've met...
I'm open to criticism but Andrew never offered any
I did, and apparantly you haven't been willing to take any of it. I critiqued your photos, and all you did was say "I'm not saying the photos are any good".
Many of you lack the benefit of previous experience with "amadeus" some of us have enjoyed on another board. That said, here are a couple unsolicited thoughts: One, he isn't a professional shooter and shouldn't be expected to behave and/or post like one. Two, not everyone is interested in exacting and exhaustive deconstruction/critique of photos and it shouldn't be assumed a poster is looking for such advice merely because he/she posts some (or many . . . ) photos. It is possible the poster is just having fun.
Many of you lack the benefit of previous experience with "amadeus" some of us have enjoyed on another board. That said, here are a couple unsolicited thoughts: One, he isn't a professional shooter and shouldn't be expected to behave and/or post like one. Two, not everyone is interested in exacting and exhaustive deconstruction/critique of photos and it shouldn't be assumed a poster is looking for such advice merely because he/she posts some (or many . . . ) photos. It is possible the poster is just having fun.
Actually, you're right on the mark here. He never asked for any critique or advice on how to improve his photography. He merely posted 57 snapshots of people riding motorcycles. It was presumptuous for any of us to assume that he would want to improve his photography technique by applying some of the recommended suggestions.
I'll certainly look at these posts if curious and then keep my comments to myself since no advice is requested.
Many of you lack the benefit of previous experience with "amadeus" some of us have enjoyed on another board. That said, here are a couple unsolicited thoughts: One, he isn't a professional shooter and shouldn't be expected to behave and/or post like one. Two, not everyone is interested in exacting and exhaustive deconstruction/critique of photos and it shouldn't be assumed a poster is looking for such advice merely because he/she posts some (or many . . . ) photos. It is possible the poster is just having fun.
Er war ein Punker
Und er lebte in der großen Stadt
Es war Wien, war Vienna
Wo er alles tat
Er hatte Schulden denn er trank
Doch ihn liebten alle Frauen
Und jede rief:
Come on and rock me Amadeus
Er war Superstar
Er war populär
Er war so exaltiert
Because er hatte Flair
Er war ein Virtuose
War ein Rockidol
Und alles rief:
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Many of you lack the benefit of previous experience with "amadeus" some of us have enjoyed on another board. That said, here are a couple unsolicited thoughts: One, he isn't a professional shooter and shouldn't be expected to behave and/or post like one. Two, not everyone is interested in exacting and exhaustive deconstruction/critique of photos and it shouldn't be assumed a poster is looking for such advice merely because he/she posts some (or many . . . ) photos. It is possible the poster is just having fun.
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Hey man..
I think you missed my point but it's irrelevant.
In all honesty mate, he's not doing himself any favours because in essence, some are just going to scan all these images and go "oh well"..
As for space, style whatever, I'm all for improving ones skill level and talent and will help anyone who asks for it, and he does have some nice images in there, but they need to be weeded out as theres some junk in there also. Sorry to be harsh but that's the way it is in the real world mate.
As for telling folks what they should or shouldn't be posting, I wasn't per se, just suggesting that to gain maximum exposure and to gain additonal focus on ones work, it doesn't serve the "poster" any good to flood and also use other people's words (which is plagarism at best) and expect no one to say anything.
I'll go away now.
Andrew
Next Race - MotoGP Donington
:ivar
yo. actually I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night..
Home run Pedroia. Red Sox up by 3.
thanks for the praise. I'm very happy with the results. I think the improvements came from 2 things. More lens and closer proximity to the subject, and made sure I was focused using the autofocus on every shot as much as possible. dude some of the vertical shots which the camera automaticaly makes upright without my having to, just don't come across good here and on the mug. when I was looking at them on my PC screem before I uploaded they were really sweet. Same track, but they change it around a little here and there so I was able to get up close with great light, not a cloud in the sky. still shooting auto on the sports setting. I shot 450 shots on a day when I went from staying home to "work on the house at 9:15" to walking out the door at 9:30. battery was fresh but not %100 and still held up. Really like the camera.
I think Maczippy just doesn't know my style like you said, but its the only way I know.
I also think he doesn't like Celine.
So g'day and all that. When are you having us over?
Yeah check out the vertical shots on original some of them are really cool.
Check out these eyes eyeballing me.
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I think you mods have the patience of Job. Personally, I thought zip was kind and given his level of work and the fact that he shares it here for us to learn from and--for some of us--to find inspiration in, I thought it was really cool he'd make the effort.
But hey, I suppose you can't argue with amadeus' "success." going on 70 replies to his thread (well, I haven't counted how many of those are his) and some great constructive criticism offered (which he largely chooses to ignore) on how to get better. Shoot, I post a thread and feel lucky that 2 people reply. Maybe I gotta learn from amadeus.
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let me help you out a little this has obviously been difficult for you.
there was one cropped head. I guess one is to many.
the first time he came by and looked down at me I missed him. I was definitely ready the second time. when you are that close to that kind of action you take what you can get. personally I'm thrilled with the shot cropped head and all. I even found him in the pits and got his email and am sending it to him. I consider it the best shot of the group given the dynamics. I suppose jumping 10 feet in the air on a motorcycle and looking down at a photographer and hanging your leg off the bike is common practice in Austin Texas but in my boring world it was quite a thrill to be a part of. Even being on the safe side of the lens. One mans junk is another mans treasure. And by the way exposures were consistently via Auto. I put myself in the position to take those shots. If hadn't have been there they wouldn't have been taken. As far as strange composition on action shots, I wasn't shooting a bowl of fruit. Its motocross. Not freestyle pose for the camera nonsense. A motocross race.
but thanks for looking.
I get a little cocky when my threads reach the 1,000,000 hit count.
as for ignoring constructive criticism. if telling someone they posted too many pictures and some of them are junk is going to help me be a better photographer, then I guess I have a lot to learn about digital photography.
I'm going to help you out a bit here with some comments on these photos. They really could use some help. I'm sorry, but Andrew is right, they are not as good as you think they are. And that is what these forums are about, right? Becoming a better photographer?
Using auto exposure on your camera is not going to make for consistent exposures of your images. I'm sorry but that's just the way it is. You had some photos that were great on exposure, some were over-exposed, some were underexposed. That's what post-production work is all about. I can tell you just took the images off the camera and did nothing to them. *If* you want good images this won't do, no matter how good your camera is. You will need to tweak on the computer.
Images 12, 15, 16, 19, 21, 22, 25, 26, 39, 52 and 53 have exposure issues. Most were over-exposed, a handful were under-exposed.
As far as composition goes who cares if this isn't a bowl of fruit? Composition counts for every type of photography, including motocross. Take a look at Andrew's site and you'll start to understand. Look at images 7, 10 and 37 for starters. One of the things drilled into my head when I first started doing photography in motocross, and later football, was composition and framing. It makes a ton of difference in the impact of a photo, even if its not a bowl of fruit.
You have a relatively nice selection of snap shots there. Do you want them to get better still?
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you said too many cropped heads on jump shots. I said only one meaning jump shots. Andrew never said they weren't as good as I thought they were, as I never said they were "good". I said I was happy with the results and I am.
1. Andrew is a professional. Maybe he can act like one. I'm not impressed with his website or his work. If you are so be it. I could really care less about a "professional" who could be so petty to make issue of my borderline plagarism (according to him).
this website is about a lot of things. and sharing shhots is one of them. I'm open to criticism but Andrew never offered any. But I'm not exactly losing sleep over it.
I post these pics as a MOTORCYCLIST not a photographer. I spent 2 hours tomight looking for the folded up piece of paper with 5 email address's of the riders I chatted up. Including this kid
from the Berkshires who came 2 hours with his dad to get lapped by some very fast mini riders like this guy
who even at this age is riding with one finger on the clutch. 2 hours I looked for that piece of paper that was right under my nose just so I could be able to send the link to the gallery like I told them I would. that is what is important to me. Not cropping. I don't know how. Some of these pics were stuffed on purpose. How else do you get a perspective like this.
whos father happens to be #1.
I'm not saying these pics are good. I'm saying I'm thrilled with the results.
Red Sox in 5.
25 years from now when he's carrying his sorry ass around a track shooting plasma pictures of diesel bikes with magnetic brakes.
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Why don't you post your photos and request that nobody critique them? You seem overly sensitive about suggestions people have given you on how to IMPROVE your shots.
You said "Andrew is a professional. Maybe he can act like one. I'm not impressed with his website or his work." I'm not sure what the point of this comment is, but you need to open your eyes and see that his shots are excellent. There's a professional quality to them that your shots lack. You may want to accept advice instead of being so defensive.
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I did, and apparantly you haven't been willing to take any of it. I critiqued your photos, and all you did was say "I'm not saying the photos are any good".
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Many of you lack the benefit of previous experience with "amadeus" some of us have enjoyed on another board. That said, here are a couple unsolicited thoughts: One, he isn't a professional shooter and shouldn't be expected to behave and/or post like one. Two, not everyone is interested in exacting and exhaustive deconstruction/critique of photos and it shouldn't be assumed a poster is looking for such advice merely because he/she posts some (or many . . . ) photos. It is possible the poster is just having fun.
Actually, you're right on the mark here. He never asked for any critique or advice on how to improve his photography. He merely posted 57 snapshots of people riding motorcycles. It was presumptuous for any of us to assume that he would want to improve his photography technique by applying some of the recommended suggestions.
I'll certainly look at these posts if curious and then keep my comments to myself since no advice is requested.
http://clearwaterphotography.smugmug.com/
Und er lebte in der großen Stadt
Es war Wien, war Vienna
Wo er alles tat
Er hatte Schulden denn er trank
Doch ihn liebten alle Frauen
Und jede rief:
Come on and rock me Amadeus
Er war Superstar
Er war populär
Er war so exaltiert
Because er hatte Flair
Er war ein Virtuose
War ein Rockidol
Und alles rief:
Come on and rock me Amadeus
Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus Amadeus, Amadeus
Amadeus Amadeus, oh oh oh Amadeus
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