Adobe PS CS4 is shipping

Nikolai · October 16, 2008

Upgrade is only $199. :deal
Just got mine (retail version, that is:-) :ivar Hope to install tonight :wink

BeachBill · October 16, 2008

Cool. I'm glad they are allowing CS and CS2 owners to upgrade for $199 as well. I still have CS2, but not for long.

Upgrade to Adobe Photoshop CS4
You have	You want	You pay
Adobe Photoshop CS3, CS2, or CS	Adobe Photoshop CS4	US$199

Andy · October 16, 2008

Got mine yest. NO issues.

Scott_Quier · October 17, 2008

Upgrade from CS3 Extended?
A quick question. I no longer qualify for the educational discount but have CS3 extended. Can I upgrade this to CS4 for the $199 or am I going to have to buy CS4 at retail?

Nikolai · October 17, 2008

Scott_Quier wrote:

A quick question. I no longer qualify for the educational discount but have CS3 extended. Can I upgrade this to CS4 for the $199 or am I going to have to buy CS4 at retail?

I'm not sure how it works with educational versions licensing-wise (from what I heard, educational version cannot be used for ANY commercial work), but on a regular basis upgrade from CS/CS2/CS3 to CS4 is only $199.
You may need to check with adobe...

Nikolai · October 17, 2008

Andy wrote:

Got mine yest. NO issues.

Yep. Same here.

Downloaded new nVidia driver and that fixed some OGL problems that were bugging us for months.

The only gripe - still no 50D support for ACR5.x :cry , so I have to resort to CS3 (and it's recent ACR4.6) to deal with the majority of my Moab piccies.

darkdragon · October 17, 2008

Scott_Quier wrote:

A quick question. I no longer qualify for the educational discount but have CS3 extended. Can I upgrade this to CS4 for the $199 or am I going to have to buy CS4 at retail?

You can upgrade adobe "eduction" versions with retail upgrades AFAIK. I was just looking into it yesterday and I didn't find anything saying you couldn't. To be on the safe side though, I think the best bet is to talk to customer support with your specific case and they should be able to help.

MarkR · October 17, 2008

Nikolai wrote:

<snip>from what I heard, educational version cannot be used for ANY commercial work<snip>

Myth.

Adobe's education license allows for commercial works to be created from it. Someone with more time available can maybe provide a linky, but this comes up a lot ...</snip></snip>

darkdragon · October 17, 2008

MarkR wrote:

Myth.

Adobe's education license allows for commercial works to be created from it. Someone with more time available can maybe provide a linky, but this comes up a lot ...

Adobe FAQ

Nikolai · October 17, 2008

Yep, you guys were right and I heard wrong.

Here it is from Adobe (at least UK:-):

http://www.adobe.com/uk/education/purchasing/faq.html

angevin1 · October 18, 2008

?m&i
Question: What kind of processing speed is required to take advantage of this program: CS3 or 4? Also, same Q with LR2?

thanks, tom

ps: I have a Pentium 4 with 3GB RAm, but LR seems a bit doggy doing the brush~

Nikolai · October 18, 2008

angevin1 wrote:

Question: What kind of processing speed is required to take advantage of this program: CS3 or 4? Also, same Q with LR2?
thanks, tom
Ps: I have a Pentium 4 with 3GB RAm, but LR seems a bit doggy doing the brush~

CS4 is *much* faster than CS3, which was faster than LR (one or two)
With your hardware you'll never have to see the hourglass working in Bridge CS4 or ACR5.x

mwgrice · October 18, 2008

Nikolai wrote:

CS4 is *much* faster than CS3, which was faster than LR (one or two)
With your hardware you'll never have to see the hourglass working in Bridge CS4 or ACR5.x

Cool. Is it worth the upgrade otherwise? I'm debating it...

Nikolai · October 18, 2008

mwgrice wrote:

Cool. Is it worth the upgrade otherwise? I'm debating it...

ACR improvents and speed upgrade alone justifies the ugrade IMHO. But there's a whole lot more...
However, I can only speak for myself. I'm known to stay with the current, so take my words with a huge grain of salt and make up your own mind.

jdryan3 · October 20, 2008

I got ACR 4.6 for Bridge for my 50D, but I understand that we have to wait for LR 2.1 for 50D support. I guess I will wait since I can get the discount for getting both at the same time, and then the NAPP discount above that.

Nikolai · October 20, 2008

jdryan3 wrote:

I got ACR 4.6 for Bridge for my 50D, but I understand that we have to wait for LR 2.1 for 50D support. I guess I will wait since I can get the discount for getting both at the same time, and then the NAPP discount above that.

Should be this coming week, I'm planning on it!

Jane B. · October 20, 2008

Depends on WHEN you heard; that used to be the case. In fact, I am using an ancient version 6 and it first comes up with EDUCATIONAL VERSION with
For academic use only under that on the opening screen.

Jane B.

Edit for PS: I should have included that I am in the USA.

Nikolai wrote:

Yep, you guys were right and I heard wrong.
Here it is from Adobe (at least UK:-):

http://www.adobe.com/uk/education/purchasing/faq.html

Techsnap · October 20, 2008

Nikolai wrote:

I'm not sure how it works with educational versions licensing-wise (from what I heard, educational version cannot be used for ANY commercial work), but on a regular basis upgrade from CS/CS2/CS3 to CS4 is only $199.
You may need to check with adobe...

I've just checked up on this, at least for those of us in the UK. If you buy the products identified as 'Student Version' on the UK Education site, you cannot use it for any commercial purpose, ever. If you buy a 'normal' version, but from the UK Edu site, at Edu price, you are able to use it for commercial purposes.

So, the cheaper products are perhaps not such good value as they appear!

mwgrice · October 20, 2008

Techsnap wrote:

I've just checked up on this, at least for those of us in the UK. If you buy the products identified as 'Student Version' on the UK Education site, you cannot use it for any commercial purpose, ever. If you buy a 'normal' version, but from the UK Edu site, at Edu price, you are able to use it for commercial purposes.

So, the cheaper products are perhaps not such good value as they appear!

I suspect there are legal or tax implications behind the licensing for the student edition. Otherwise, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

First, the point of educational discounts or student editions is to hook students on the software so that they will continue to use it after they've finished school. Restrictions on the use of the product make the software less appealing.

Second, enforcing the noncommercial clause is next to impossible. How exactly is Adobe going to determine whether or not money exchanges hands? Good luck with that. I suppose if they embedded the software version in the EXIF, and were willing to spend a lot of money monitoring pretty much all media, and were willing to alienate customers with false positives, they could give it a try. A far more sensible policy would be to look the other way except for the most egregious commercial uses.

It does look like the student edition is eligible for upgrade to the commercial version, which would make the whole thing moot. They do seem to have gone out of their way to make the whole thing confusing, though.

urbanaries · October 21, 2008

Does anyone have exp using a windows version as the "base" serial number then paying upgrading to the Mac version........or do I have to start all over?

I was going to test how this works by DL a trial version for Mac and entering my windows serial number and seeing if that worked, but now that CS4 is "coming" they don't have any downloadable trials that I can see

Scott_Quier · October 21, 2008

urbanaries wrote:

Does anyone have exp using a windows version as the "base" serial number then paying upgrading to the Mac version........or do I have to start all over?

I was going to test how this works by DL a trial version for Mac and entering my windows serial number and seeing if that worked, but now that CS4 is "coming" they don't have any downloadable trials that I can see

I believe I read on DGrin somewhere that this transition requires a phone call to Adobe - but I'm not sure about that. I am sure that a phone call will get you the answer.:D

mwgrice · October 21, 2008

Scott_Quier wrote:

I believe I read on DGrin somewhere that this transition requires a phone call to Adobe - but I'm not sure about that. I am sure that a phone call will get you the answer.:D

I've read that you can change platforms and upgrade at the same time (i.e., buy the Mac upgrade package in order to switch from Windows to Mac). I haven't tried it, though.

I have however changed platform. I had to call Adobe, fill out a form with all my serial numbers stating that I would remove the existing copies, etc., and fax it to them. They charged me for shipping, and a few weeks later I had the Mac version and a new serial number.

I managed to make things more difficult by sending them the wrong software, and I had to call them several times to straighten things out, but it eventually got sorted out. I have complained to people at Adobe about the process--there is no good technical reason why they can't do cross-platform licensing.

darkdragon · October 22, 2008

Techsnap wrote:

I've just checked up on this, at least for those of us in the UK. If you buy the products identified as 'Student Version' on the UK Education site, you cannot use it for any commercial purpose, ever. If you buy a 'normal' version, but from the UK Edu site, at Edu price, you are able to use it for commercial purposes.

So, the cheaper products are perhaps not such good value as they appear!

Here is the official info from Adobe for the USA/CAN purchase:

Adobe wrote:

What are the restrictions in using education versions of Adobe products?
A customer may only purchase one copy of any product. Education versions of Former Macromedia products only (Studio 8, Dreamweaver, Flash, etc.) are intended for instructional and administrative purposes only and may not be used for any commercial purpose.

vegasphotog · October 22, 2008

FYI....I have always purchased directly from the Adobe store...I had lived in Alaska with no sales tax. Well, here in Vegas, Adobe tacked me with the $50 sales tax...and, I ordered it last Thursday, it did not ship until Monday and they shipped it FedEx ground from Georgia...which means I prolly won't get it until next week. Totally substandard. I thought the DHL process was lame...now it got lamer. I would recommend just ordering from Amazon.

jdryan3 · October 27, 2008

urbanaries wrote:

Does anyone have exp using a windows version as the "base" serial number then paying upgrading to the Mac version........or do I have to start all over?

I was going to test how this works by DL a trial version for Mac and entering my windows serial number and seeing if that worked, but now that CS4 is "coming" they don't have any downloadable trials that I can see

I jumped from CS2 PC to CS3 Mac. You a pay for the normal upgrade (assuming you have a legit PC version), and sign the ubiquitous LOD (Letter of Destruction), destroy the software, and they ship to you a full blown copy of the latest version on your new platform. Since you have to get it from Adobe they already have a record of the purchase, so you might as well register it. Which makes it easier to upgrade in the future.

Adobe PS CS4 is shipping

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