IR Park

ziggy53 · November 11, 2007

This is one of the first images I captured with the Minolta Dimage 7 (D7) and IR filter:

CavalierPhoto · November 11, 2007

It's hard to tell what your subject is or what you may have been trying to capture, other than it being IR.

I like the blue treatment though. Let's see more.

ziggy53 · November 11, 2007

CavalierPhoto wrote:

It's hard to tell what your subject is or what you may have been trying to capture, other than it being IR.

I like the blue treatment though. Let's see more.

Thanks Chris. There is a playground on the left side of the image, just trees on the right.

I'm still experimenting with this new capability, so there will be more to come as I figure it out.

Skippy · November 12, 2007

ziggy53 wrote:

This is one of the first images I captured with the Minolta Dimage 7 (D7) and IR filter:

Hey there Ziggy you got a nice assortment of trees.
Looking good so far, hope you'll share some more as you keep experimenting.

... Skippy

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Richard · November 12, 2007

ziggy53 wrote:

This is one of the first images I captured with the Minolta Dimage 7 (D7) and IR filter:

Very nice. Looks like mid-winter trees covered in snow and ice. I like it.

Cheers,

xris · November 12, 2007

I like it too. It certainly grabs your interest. And regarding composition, it looks as though it would make a great wrap-around CD or book cover. Slits quite nicely into two separate pix.

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wxwax · November 12, 2007

Very interesting, Ziggy. How hard is it to control the color?

ziggy53 · November 12, 2007

Skippy wrote:

Hey there Ziggy you got a nice assortment of trees.
Looking good so far, hope you'll share some more as you keep experimenting. ... Skippy
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Thanks Skippy.

Trees and wooden playground are the IR draw to this park.

ziggy53 · November 12, 2007

rsinmadrid wrote:

Very nice. Looks like mid-winter trees covered in snow and ice. I like it.

Cheers,

Thanks Richard.

IR is wonderful for making summer look a little like winter. This was just before many of these trees lost their leaves.

ziggy53 · November 12, 2007

xris wrote:

I like it too. It certainly grabs your interest. And regarding composition, it looks as though it would make a great wrap-around CD or book cover. Slits quite nicely into two separate pix.

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Thanks Xris.

I do think it will enlarge nicely and yes, I did think more of a panoramic since both the sky and the foreground were not so detailed in this image.

ziggy53 · November 12, 2007

wxwax wrote:

Very interesting, Ziggy. How hard is it to control the color?

Thanks Sid.

The Dimage 7 has a hot spot when used as an IR camera, so that has to be considered in the composition or corrected in post.

This image is a red-blue swap using the Channel Mixer in PSCS2. Then the color was very carefully coaxed and massaged from the rather subtle hues, all while trying to make the vegetation white. It is an interesting exercise and I doubt that I will ever be able to make a routine out of the steps. Even similar images seem to require considerably different treatment to make a useful final image.

DaddyO · November 12, 2007

Like the result. Too bad that each photo has to be worked so hard to
get a desired IR effect. Good luck with your continuing efforts. Michael

ziggy53 · November 12, 2007

DaddyO wrote:

Like the result. Too bad that each photo has to be worked so hard to
get a desired IR effect. Good luck with your continuing efforts. Michael

Thanks Michael. I don't mean that it's horrible to process IR images, it's just that there is no "standard" method of processing, just like most images in full color.

Awais Yaqub · November 13, 2007

Amazing beautiful photo Ziggy

wxwax · November 13, 2007

ziggy53 wrote:

Thanks Sid.

The Dimage 7 has a hot spot when used as an IR camera, so that has to be considered in the composition or corrected in post.

This image is a red-blue swap using the Channel Mixer in PSCS2. Then the color was very carefully coaxed and massaged from the rather subtle hues, all while trying to make the vegetation white. It is an interesting exercise and I doubt that I will ever be able to make a routine out of the steps. Even similar images seem to require considerably different treatment to make a useful final image.

Is it more of a challenge to make it B&W?

CavalierPhoto · November 13, 2007

wxwax wrote:

Is it more of a challenge to make it B&W?

It's actually kinda the same process. At least for me it is. The images come out of my modded D50 as red and white images. I convert to grayscale using Lightroom. Then I tweak the brightness and contrast of the image in CS3 individually.

I can't say its challenging because I'm so used to doing it this way. For perspective I guess you could kinda compare it to applying curves to a color image.

Prior to LR I used to do it manually and it can be a mind numbing process for large batches of images.

Of course if you really wanted to be slick you could get your camera modded with a filter that gives you b&w IR out of the camera (on my wish list) and eliminate the conversion step altogether. You'd still have to tweak either the contrast/brightness or the color channels to taste though.

ziggy53 · November 13, 2007

Awais Yaqub wrote:

Amazing beautiful photo Ziggy

Thanks so much Awais.

ziggy53 · November 13, 2007

wxwax wrote:

Is it more of a challenge to make it B&W?

B&W is it's own challenge and I do think it can be more difficult to find interesting subjects for grayscale images.

I created a custom negative mask to correct the central hotspot (sometimes) and if I use it as a Color blending layer it corrects the hot spot and neutralizes much of the IR color cast as well.

I used the negative mask on the IR versions of this image:

http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=76046

ziggy53 · November 13, 2007

CavalierPhoto wrote:

It's actually kinda the same process. At least for me it is. The images come out of my modded D50 as red and white images. I convert to grayscale using Lightroom. Then I tweak the brightness and contrast of the image in CS3 individually.

I can't say its challenging because I'm so used to doing it this way. For perspective I guess you could kinda compare it to applying curves to a color image.

Prior to LR I used to do it manually and it can be a mind numbing process for large batches of images.

Of course if you really wanted to be slick you could get your camera modded with a filter that gives you b&w IR out of the camera (on my wish list) and eliminate the conversion step altogether. You'd still have to tweak either the contrast/brightness or the color channels to taste though.

RAW capture does aid the process because the color shifts can be pretty severe using the IR filter. JPG tends to lose a lot more tonality in the process.

nicled · November 22, 2007

Ziggy, can you share your workflow?

I have some IR shots but they're not as good as yours...i don't get the snow effect on the leaves. Btw, i use an IR filter on my Nikon D40x.

Here are samples...

ziggy53 · November 22, 2007

nicled wrote:

Ziggy, can you share your workflow?

I have some IR shots but they're not as good as yours...i don't get the snow effect on the leaves. Btw, i use an IR filter on my Nikon D40x.

Here are samples...

Thanks for the compliment Nicled. Actually, yours are awfully nice too.

I'm afraid that I don't have a workflow, just what I said above:

http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=679899&postcount=11

nicled · November 22, 2007

ziggy53 wrote:

Thanks for the compliment Nicled. Actually, yours are awfully nice too.

I'm afraid that I don't have a workflow, just what I said above:

http://dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=679899&postcount=11

thanks ziggy. can't get that "snowy" effect. you had your dslr converted or do you also use an IR filter?

Dogdots · November 22, 2007

Beautiful photo. I love the weeping willow in the right of the photo. I think it adds balance to the photo.

Dogdots/Mary

ziggy53 · November 22, 2007

nicled wrote:

thanks ziggy. can't get that "snowy" effect. you had your dslr converted or do you also use an IR filter?

The Minolta Dimage 7 (D7) is an older (2001) 5 megapixel digicam. It is fairly unique in that it has a weak IR filter. I do use a Hoya R72 IR filter to help control visible light.

It's not quite as good as a dedicated/converted camera, but the results can be fairly nice.

The "master" of this particular camera is Daniella T.:

http://www.pbase.com/zylen/crazy_colours
http://www.pbase.com/zylen/infrared

I wish I knew "her" workflow.

ziggy53 · November 22, 2007

Dogdots wrote:

Beautiful photo. I love the weeping willow in the right of the photo. I think it adds balance to the photo.

Dogdots/Mary

Thanks Mary. IR is kinda wierd and you never really know what you're getting. When it does work, it can be pretty nice.

IR Park

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