New image sizes?

[jfriend]

Has this been announced yet? It's in the help system. By test, it seems to apply to newly uploaded or freshly rotated images.

BTW, this new functionality is very awesome!

[Sheaf]

It's just part of what we released last night. We will be making a full announcement soon detailing all the changes.

[jfriend]

Originally Posted by Sheaf

It's just part of what we released last night. We will be making a full announcement soon detailing all the changes.

Is there any method for getting this to apply to existing galleries other than a double rotate of all images in the gallery?

[Andy]

Originally Posted by jfriend

BTW, this new functionality is very awesome!

Here we go, XL3 down to Tiny thumbnail

[jfriend]

Originally Posted by Andy

Here we go, XL3 down to Tiny thumbnail

Awesome, awesome, awesome! Really changes the way Smugmug images look on bigger screens!

[Andy]

[Sheaf]

Originally Posted by jfriend

Is there any method for getting this to apply to existing galleries other than a double rotate of all images in the gallery?

Currently, no. Sorry! If there was an easy way to do it in bulk, our servers would have some serious problems. But we don't want it to be a chore either for those set on getting full functionality of it on their site. I'm sure we will be discussing it at length this week at SmugMug HQ.

[DavidTO]

Originally Posted by jfriend

BTW, this new functionality is very awesome!

Jfriend, the master of understatement.



WTG, Smuggy!

[jfriend]

Originally Posted by Sheaf

Currently, no. Sorry! If there was an easy way to do it in bulk, our servers would have some serious problems. But we don't want it to be a chore either for those set on getting full functionality of it on their site. I'm sure we will be discussing it at length this week at SmugMug HQ.

I understand and appreciate the server load issue. The work-around of double rotating is twice as bad on server load since it will regenerate all sizes twice. If you had a more efficient (for you) workaround, I'd use that.

I, for one, would be fine with an opt-in feature for the new sizes where you guys queue my request up and process it "when the servers have cycles" which is hopefully sometime in the next few days and probably in the middle of the night. I only need to do about 10% of my galleries.

[AnneMcBean]

Originally Posted by jfriend

I understand and appreciate the server load issue. The work-around of double rotating is twice as bad on server load since it will regenerate all sizes twice. If you had a more efficient (for you) workaround, I'd use that.

I, for one, would be fine with an opt-in feature for the new sizes where you guys queue my request up and process it "when the servers have cycles" which is hopefully sometime in the next few days and probably in the middle of the night. I only need to do about 10% of my galleries.

To be clear, anything that generates new display images or a new original image will generate the SmugMungous sizes as well. This includes adding/removing watermarks, cropping, color effects, replace this photo, or rotating. You're right though, seems like it would have twice the load of a simple opt-in.

-Anne

[Sheaf]

Originally Posted by jfriend

I understand and appreciate the server load issue. The work-around of double rotating is twice as bad on server load since it will regenerate all sizes twice.

That's true, but until we find an alternative solution this saves us from having the site bog down immensely when someone with 50,000 photos pulls the trigger.

[Baldy]

Hey John and David, who never miss a trick and catch things the moment we release 'em :

We've only worked out the display of large sizes in lightbox so far, but the way it does it is pretty trick, we think. If you're viewing a gallery in SmugMug style and click on the medium image, lightbox auto chooses the size that fits your browser area. Expand your browser or shrink it and it selects a different image size. Send the URL you see in your address bar and notice that it ends in A-LB. Send that URL to someone and it will auto choose for them too.

Notice on the top of lightbox where you used to be able to choose S M L. Now you have the extra sizes (no surprise) but also Auto too.

On our biggest days we can get as many as a million photos now and so scaling this was a major concern. And we get 'em in spikes. And how to go back and make these larger sizes for the existing 210 million photos?

You'll wanna read Don's blog on how we process these now and plan to handle the Sunday night spikes.

Anne has a whole bunch of updated help sections about to go live.

[jfriend]

Originally Posted by Baldy

Hey John and David, who never miss a trick and catch things the moment we release 'em :

We've only worked out the display of large sizes in lightbox so far, but the way it does it is pretty trick, we think. If you're viewing a gallery in SmugMug style and click on the medium image, lightbox auto chooses the size that fits your browser area. Expand your browser or shrink it and it selects a different image size. Send the URL you see in your address bar and notice that it ends in A-LB. Send that URL to someone and it will auto choose for them too.

Notice on the top of lightbox where you used to be able to choose S M L. Now you have the extra sizes (no surprise) but also Auto too.

On our biggest days we can get as many as a million photos now and so scaling this was a major concern. And we get 'em in spikes. And how to go back and make these larger sizes for the existing 210 million photos?

You'll wanna read Don's blog on how we process these now and plan to handle the Sunday night spikes.

Anne has a whole bunch of updated help sections about to go live.

Auto LB is great. I love it. I had noticed that it picked a larger size. I didn't realize you had a new "auto" URL. For folks with large screens, that's really, really cool and kind of a neat URL to share instead of a direct image link.

Will the "smugmug view" show larger than an "M" sized image on a large screen if those sizes are enabled? I don't have a large screen right now to try it on.

You are obviously right to protect the load of your systems.

At the same time, the double rotate work-around that is both inefficent (for your server load) and kind of a pain for your users doesn't seem like the best place to be either.

On the other hand, maybe the users who know about it and care will use the double rotate work-around and then the whole issue will just go away in a few weeks.

[devbobo]

Originally Posted by jfriend

At the same time, the double rotate work-around that is both inefficent (for your server load) and kind of a pain for your users doesn't seem like the best place to be either.

On the other hand, maybe the users who know about it and care will use the double rotate work-around and then the whole issue will just go away in a few weeks.

John,

For pro users, they can just reapply a watermark to achieve the same result.

David

[marlof]

Right now I can set the max image size to either X3Large or Original. Will there be a setting to allow nothing more than Large? I like to upload originals to my galleries (for safe keeping), but only allow large viewing by visitors. If this is not possible, I'll have to create double galleries, one with 800x800s and one private one with originals.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by jfriend

Will the "smugmug view" show larger than an "M" sized image on a large screen if those sizes are enabled? I don't have a large screen right now to try it on.

Stay tuned, SmugMungous is in phase 1 now :)

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=32241

[jfriend]

Originally Posted by devbobo

John,

For pro users, they can just reapply a watermark to achieve the same result.

David

I saw that in Anne's message. If you're pro and using a watermark, that is the easiest way because it is only one user operation rather than two. It also has the benefit that your galleries are never in a compromised state during the transition like they are when you do the double rotate.

I'm guessing that pro+watermark is only a minotiry portion of the overall galleries in your service though. Anyway, I don't mean to make a big deal out of this. It's in the "would be nice" category. I've already double rotated six of my galleries and will do a few more in the next few days.

[jfriend]

Originally Posted by Andy

Stay tuned, SmugMungous is in phase 1 now :)

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=32241

This discussion was so long ago (April) that I'd forgotten what was discussed in Baldy's summary mid-thread. That stuff will be cool when it gets here. I'll be anxiously waiting for phase two I guess.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by jfriend

This discussion was so long ago (April) that I'd forgotten what was discussed in Baldy's summary mid-thread. That stuff will be cool when it gets here. I'll be anxiously waiting for phase two I guess.

Hey, we're 25 peeps doing the work of 50 :) we'll get there

AFAIK nobody has something like this. Nobody.

[Baldy]

Originally Posted by jfriend

This discussion was so long ago (April) that I'd forgotten what was discussed in Baldy's summary mid-thread. That stuff will be cool when it gets here. I'll be anxiously waiting for phase two I guess.

We're telliing ourselves here (well, maybe the UI and theme guys aren't) that the really gut-busting stuff that requires 200 extra terrabytes of storage and a huge step-up in image processing is behind us.

It wasn't so difficult to make lightbox stretch as the image got larger, but there's a lot of work to do on the themes to make them stretch.