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whoa -- new layout on control buttons

dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
edited March 6, 2009 in SmugMug Support
MOD EDIT (Andy): All the new stuff announcd in Release Notes.

ATTN CUSTOMIZERS: Don't see the new tools button? If you use

#breadcrumb {display: none;} you should also add

.loggedIn #breadcrumb {display: block;} so that you can see the tools buttons. Just holler if you need help, it's a 10seconds CSS addition and we don't mind doing it for you :D

Dogwood's original post here:

Nice. Seems to save on the mouse scrolling too since a lot of browser navigation is near the top of the screen. Well done, SM. :thumb

Oh-- but not to be picky, but hopefully there will be a way to get rid of the"Tools: please use new button up above!" at some point in the future. It's intuitive enough that I figured it out before I saw that text.
Portland, Oregon Photographer Pete Springer
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    dogwood wrote:
    Nice. Seems to save on the mouse scrolling too since a lot of browser navigation is near the top of the screen. Well done, SM. thumb.gif
    :D always nice to be noticed :D

    There's a TON in this release. Release notes going out shortly.
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    dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    There's a TON in this release. Release notes going out shortly.

    Fantastic. I've already noticed some new features. So far I love what I'm seeing.
    Portland, Oregon Photographer Pete Springer
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Release notes updated :Dhttp://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2008/10/30/buttons-and-lots-more-october-30-2008/
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    dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    So when I click "Add New Photo" and new gallery, and the new gallery dialog comes up, now I have to scroll down in the category box to select which category I want. Seemed like it was easier when it defaulted to the same category I was in when I clicked "Add New Photo".
    Portland, Oregon Photographer Pete Springer
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    {JT}{JT} Registered Users Posts: 1,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    dogwood wrote:
    So when I click "Add New Photo" and new gallery, and the new gallery dialog comes up, now I have to scroll down in the category box to select which category I want. Seemed like it was easier when it defaulted to the same category I was in when I clicked "Add New Photo".

    Yes, there will be a follow up release that fixes this soon.
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    dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Release notes updated :Dhttp://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2008/10/30/buttons-and-lots-more-october-30-2008/

    Cool. Thanks for sending this, Andy. There are for sure some nice new features. It's rare I'm that I'm working on my site at the same moment a bunch of new stuff comes out and get to try everything immediately.
    Portland, Oregon Photographer Pete Springer
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    OffTopicOffTopic Registered Users Posts: 521 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    clap.gifthumb Thank you! Started noticing the changes as I was working tonight and loved it. :D
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    ross_jardineross_jardine Registered Users Posts: 1 Beginner grinner
    edited October 31, 2008
    After the update my site no longer loads. ne_nau.gif

    rossjardine.smugmug.com

    or www.rossjardine.com.au

    edit... okay now it says maintenance is now still in progress.
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    carolinecaroline Registered Users Posts: 1,302 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    'Owner Buy' is greyed out for me, I only see site back up and gift of smugmug.
    Caroline
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    PHOTOlinkPHOTOlink Registered Users Posts: 150 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    new arrangement of tools
    HORRID. absolutely awful
    poorly thought out....

    i want them BACK at the bottom of the image
    and i would like to ONLY have the tools that i want/need
    so i didn't have to wade through all that crap to get to the
    few tools that i want... we should be able to switch what tools
    we want on and off....

    i mean, we have to go dragging thru MORE to get to
    crop thumbnail or feature an image

    ...whats the use... the canges are here, and i doubt
    they will go back....

    BAD..
    Adam Scull
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    timnosenzotimnosenzo Registered Users Posts: 405 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Release notes updated :Dhttp://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2008/10/30/buttons-and-lots-more-october-30-2008/

    Wow, you guys have been busy! Nice work! thumb.gif
    connecticut wedding photographer
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    kygardenkygarden Registered Users Posts: 1,060 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Good job folks. This is why I keep paying for the pro account. Keep it up. :D
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    PHOTOlink wrote:
    HORRID. absolutely awful
    poorly thought out....

    i want them BACK at the bottom of the image
    and i would like to ONLY have the tools that i want/need
    so i didn't have to wade through all that crap to get to the
    few tools that i want... we should be able to switch what tools
    we want on and off....

    i mean, we have to go dragging thru MORE to get to
    crop thumbnail or feature an image

    ...whats the use... the canges are here, and i doubt
    they will go back....

    BAD..
    Hi Adam, thank you for your straight talk & feedback - we wouldn't have it any other way! Thanks for the email as well, Adam - there is that one bug where you create gallery and we don't default the the category in the dropdown, we've fixed that internally and we'll get it on the site as soon as possible. Sorry for that, it's a small bug and we'll fix it.
    Andy

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    ross_jardine wrote:
    After the update my site no longer loads. ne_nau.gif

    rossjardine.smugmug.com

    or www.rossjardine.com.au

    edit... okay now it says maintenance is now still in progress.
    All good now, I checked.
    Andy

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    JohnnyJrJohnnyJr Registered Users Posts: 174 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    "Tools: please use the new button up above!" WHERE?!?
    Awesome, I'm on a deadline and not seeing this magical button "up above." Can you tell me how to access photo tools? Here's the gallery I'm trying to work in: http://sisson.smugmug.com/gallery/5913231_R7ERk

    Do I need to add/remove some piece of code someplace in my customization?
    Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
    Jake: Hit it.

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    JohnnyJr wrote:
    Awesome, I'm on a deadline and not seeing this magical button "up above." Can you tell me how to access photo tools? Here's the gallery I'm trying to work in: http://sisson.smugmug.com/gallery/5913231_R7ERk

    Do I need to add/remove some piece of code someplace in my customization?
    Yup.

    Use this:


    #breadcrumb {display:none}
    #breadcrumb {visibility: hidden;}
    .loggedIn #breadcrumb {visibility: visible;
    display: block;
    }

    it'll only show to you, when logged in.
    Andy

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    JohnnyJrJohnnyJr Registered Users Posts: 174 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Thanks!
    Thank you, Andy. That did the trick!

    Andy wrote:
    Yup.

    Use this:


    #breadcrumb {display:none}
    #breadcrumb {visibility: hidden;}
    .loggedIn #breadcrumb {visibility: visible;
    display: block;
    }

    it'll only show to you, when logged in.
    Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
    Jake: Hit it.

    http://www.sissonphotography.com
    www.flickr.com/photos/sissonphotography
    http://sissonphotography.blogspot.com/
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    JohnnyJrJohnnyJr Registered Users Posts: 174 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    hmmm
    ...but wow this new button layout adds lots of up-down scrolling.
    Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
    Jake: Hit it.

    http://www.sissonphotography.com
    www.flickr.com/photos/sissonphotography
    http://sissonphotography.blogspot.com/
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    sirsloopsirsloop Registered Users Posts: 866 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    I always get excited when some new smug magic gets added... visitor view! WOOT!

    The Sorcerers of Smug are adding new magic right now, so we're in window shopping mode. You can view all the photos you like, but for a few minutes we're unable to sell prints or take new photos or comments. Stay tuned! The SmugMug team

    If only I could talk my boss into making notification messages like these rolleyes1.gif
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    sirsloop wrote:
    I always get excited when some new smug magic gets added... visitor view! WOOT!l

    We actually put VV on the site back in March 2008 :D

    http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2008/03/17/silky-smooth-slideshow-eye-candy/

    All the release notes:

    http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/

    Subscribe :D
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    carolinecaroline Registered Users Posts: 1,302 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    This doesn't work for me :-(
    re my previous post also, am I missing something ?

    Thanks,
    Caroline
    Andy wrote:
    Yup.

    Use this:


    #breadcrumb {display:none}
    #breadcrumb {visibility: hidden;}
    .loggedIn #breadcrumb {visibility: visible;
    display: block;
    }

    it'll only show to you, when logged in.
    Mendip Blog - Blog from The Fog, life on the Mendips
    www.carolineshipsey.co.uk - Follow me on G+

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    caroline wrote:
    This doesn't work for me :-(
    re my previous post also, am I missing something ?

    Thanks,
    Caroline
    You have this line:

    .gallery_3606374 #breadcrumb {visibility: hidden;}

    remove that.
    Andy

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    JenGraceJenGrace Registered Users Posts: 1,229 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Question about owner buy...
    I got the impression from the release notes that I can use that to put photos in my shopping cart even if I have it turned off for viewers, but it looks to me like I only have options to buy backup (at different levels, which is nice) or the gift of smugmug.
    Jen

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    JenGrace wrote:
    Question about owner buy...
    I got the impression from the release notes that I can use that to put photos in my shopping cart even if I have it turned off for viewers, but it looks to me like I only have options to buy backup (at different levels, which is nice) or the gift of smugmug.
    Right. You still need to have printing enabled at the gallery level, sorry!
    Andy

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    JenGraceJenGrace Registered Users Posts: 1,229 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Andy wrote:
    Right. You still need to have printing enabled at the gallery level, sorry!

    This wording from the blog confused me..
    Account owners now have “Owner Buy” so they can easily use SmugMug’s shopping cart even if the Printable option on a gallery is toggled to “no”.

    It's not clear that this is only for backup and gift of smugmug. I feel like I should know this, but is there a way to toggle printing off for visitors and leave it on for owners?
    Jen

    Gallery of mine...caution, it's under CONSTANT construction! | Photo Journal

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    JenGrace wrote:
    This wording from the blog confused me..



    It's not clear that this is only for backup and gift of smugmug. I feel like I should know this, but is there a way to toggle printing off for visitors and leave it on for owners?
    It's a mistake in our release notes, I fixed. Sorry about that, this function is not on the live site,hopefully one day!
    Andy

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    dogwooddogwood Registered Users Posts: 2,572 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    PHOTOlink wrote:
    ...whats the use... the canges are here, and i doubt
    they will go back....

    BAD..

    Well, I have nothing to do with the design or new placement of the tools but I can answer your question about "what's the use?"

    Overall, it will actually speed up work on your site. All your navigation for both the site and your web browser is near the top of the screen, so no more mousing down below photos for the tools, then back to the top of the screen for navigation. It also seems more intuitive to me and seems to better match the other features on the site.

    I always remember something I saw in a Photoshop tutorial-- if you can find a way to save a second or two here and there, pretty soon it adds up (at least if you daily spend hours in Photoshop, like I do -- it's similar with a website too).

    Anyway, I've been plenty critical of past SM upgrades/changes but I literally stumbled right into this change right after it went live and it all made sense immediately. If anything, SM is overexplaining it (ie the text telling you to use the tools up above) as I mentioned in a previous post.

    Just my two-cents, anyway.
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    roletterolette Registered Users Posts: 223 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Move "Crop Thumbnail" up one level?
    I think I like the new Tools menu (I'll get a better feel tonight after I upload my next batch of pictures), but is there any chance you could move the "Crop Thumbnail" up one level in the menu structure?

    If you are using square thumbs, I generally have to adjust the thumbnail on ~40% of my pics so having it buried under "More" slows things down a bit.

    Actually, while you are in the neighborhood, it would be nice if the Crop Thumbnail page defaulted to 1:1 on the ratio for galleries that use square thumbs nod.gif

    Jay
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    Luc De JaegerLuc De Jaeger Registered Users Posts: 139 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Just wondering...

    While the other buttons have changed, the "submit" button in the Photo timeline seems not to have changed (I'm using the SmugMug Gradient theme on my site).

    Not that it bothers me, but perhaps, some time this button will follow the new layout of the other buttons.

    The changes in this release are nice and a logic step forward.thumb.gif
    Luc
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    {JT}{JT} Registered Users Posts: 1,016 Major grins
    edited October 31, 2008
    Andy has your back here:
    http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=954588&postcount=17
    photogmomma wrote:
    Hi, I just logged on to edit rearrange my gallery for my client and my tools below the photo are gone! I see the new note telling me to look at the top, but the problem is... I clean up my galleries for my clients - I turn off the breadcrumb (I think that's the one) so all my buttons at the top aren't there. Which means that I"ll have to go in to edit ALL my client galleries to put them back in and then turn them back off after I'm done. I really like my galleries to be clean! (You can see it here: http://www.tippiepics.com/rutherford)

    Is it possible to put those tools in another location so that you can leave that all off at the top? And have it only show up for me? I dunno... I wish I was a wiz at CSS.

    Oh, and if this should go in customization, sorry!
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