Better Hawk Shots

dlplumer

redleash wrote:

Maybe it's a new species altogether--and it will be named after Dan!

I like that idea Lauren I already named one species of bird" The Knotaloon (For those of you without rolling head smilies, that's a joke):ivar

bfjr

raptorcaptor wrote:

Don't need to record it, just hear it.

I'm starting to lean toward the red-tailed hawk crowd!

Ahh Glen don't let em off that easy.
He needs to get sound gear, He wants to get sound gear

dlplumer

bfjr wrote:

Ahh Glen don't let em off that easy.
He needs to get sound gear, He wants to get sound gear

You need me on that wall, you want me on that wall,

You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

redleash

I've seen a few Common Loons, and a few human loonies . . . but must say I've missed out on the Knotaloon! Must be really, really, really scarce, hey Dan?

DsrtVW

I have more Red Shouldered Hawk captures and they have a banded tail I will go search for them

raptorcaptor

More gear is always good!

Do'nt forget to wear you Pantaloons!

Seems this discussion has gone on before!

http://www.birdchick.com/2007/03/red-shoulderedred-tailed-hawk-hybrid.html

dlplumer

redleash wrote:

I've seen a few Common Loons, and a few human loonies . . . but must say I've missed out on the Knotaloon! Must be really, really, really scarce, hey Dan?

Actually, they are not as rare as you might think. This is knotaloon:

dlplumer

raptorcaptor wrote:

More gear is always good!

Do'nt forget to wear you Pantaloons!

Seems this discussion has gone on before!

http://www.birdchick.com/2007/03/red-shoulderedred-tailed-hawk-hybrid.html

Thanks Glenn. I'll have to get up there again and get some more shots. Maybe I can get the other one or maybe even a chick. I doubt their call would mean anything to me.

DsrtVW

I heard that you can find knotaloons up near Saskatoon.

More Calif Red Shouldered Hawks At rest and in flight





Red Tail with similar belly feathers

Red Tail with spotted belly band this guy is an old specimen has one bad eye and a bad foot


I think they are trying to keep us confused. I do like the sound of
Dan tailed Hawk though:ivar

bfjr

Well Dan you have opened quite the debate.

I went back to look at your 1st shot and Man that's a
Red Shoulder.

As far as Hybernized I'm not on board with that at all.
In the wild Hybernized animals usually don't last their
1st year, either due to predation or being osterized by
there peers usually one begets the other. Wild Animals prime
directive is to procreate and continue it's species, not a new species.

As an example, many of you know I own 2 Parrots
1. Male Cockatoo named Henry
2. Female B&G Macaw named Maggie
they been with some 20yrs now

Originally Henry was Wild Caught and used for breeding only (read not
a pet). Every season Henry's urge to mate is so strong that he will
Masturbate. However in those 20 yrs he has never made a move on
Maggie. For those of you that know, Maggie has been blood
tested Female. About 8yrs ago I allowed a fellow owner to bring there
Female Cockatoo over and Henry was all over her like white on Rice in a
heartbeat.

Yes I will concede that there many hybernized species roaming this Earth, but most if not all have Humans in the Mix.

Dan we got to see the mate and yeah maybe hear the calls.
So bud this is your Quest

dlplumer

I'll see what I can do Ben.

Maestro

Great shots Dan and I vote for the Red Tailed Hawk. The belly band, tail, wing plumage and overall shape lead me to the red tailed hawk ID plus the tail looks too long. The red shouldered hawks I see in Texas seem to have shorter tail feathers than the red tailed hawks. But I hold every right to change course, renege and change my mind at any point.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the plumage for red tailed hawks varies incredibly much depending on location. There certainly does seem to be some rufous colored plumage on the shoulder in that first shot, but I am still leaning toward the red tailed hawk ID because some of the later images are certainly red tailed hawks without a doubt.

raptorcaptor

Once we get the DNA results (that Dan is going to get for us) we'll know for sure!

kdog

Great selection of RED TAILED HAWKS, Dan.

Nice shootin.


Cheers,
-joel

dlplumer

kdog wrote:

Great selection of RED TAILED HAWKS, Dan.

Nice shootin.


Cheers,
-joel

Thanks J-man. How sure are you?

dlplumer

Maestro wrote:

Great shots Dan and I vote for the Red Tailed Hawk. The belly band, tail, wing plumage and overall shape lead me to the red tailed hawk ID plus the tail looks too long. The red shouldered hawks I see in Texas seem to have shorter tail feathers than the red tailed hawks. But I hold every right to change course, renege and change my mind at any point.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the plumage for red tailed hawks varies incredibly much depending on location. There certainly does seem to be some rufous colored plumage on the shoulder in that first shot, but I am still leaning toward the red tailed hawk ID because some of the later images are certainly red tailed hawks without a doubt.

Thanks Stephen. I knew you would know

Jody Melanson

Beautiful shots, Dan!

dlplumer

Jody Melanson wrote:

Beautiful shots, Dan!

dlplumer

I got some more shots last night that I thought would be great, and then I discovered I had left the exposure comp set to minus from a previous shoot, and of course the hawk was way too under exposed against the sky. Bummer :bash

pyry

I'm not too good with hawks, but out of those two options the red-tail fits

Nice shots Dan!

Maestro

dlplumer wrote:

I got some more shots last night that I thought would be great, and then I discovered I had left the exposure comp set to minus from a previous shoot, and of course the hawk was way to under exposed against the sky. Bummer :bash

Been there and done that! Don't feel bad.

dlplumer

pyry wrote:

I'm not too good with hawks, but out of those two options the red-tail fits

Nice shots Dan!

Thanks Pyry

Quote:
Originally Posted by dlplumer
I got some more shots last night that I thought would be great, and then I discovered I had left the exposure comp set to minus from a previous shoot, and of course the hawk was way to under exposed against the sky. Bummer

Maestro wrote:

Been there and done that! Don't feel bad.

Thanks Stephen

Schnauzer

I had a red tailed hawk that I raised. I found him on a old dirt road. I thought he was dead. He had left the nest and hadn't learned to hunt well enough. I fed him baby food through a big eye dropper stuffed down his throat until he got his strength back. I ground up whole chicken heads for him after that plus all the road kills that I could find that were fresh.

He didn't look like the hawk in your picture.

I have pictures of him setting on my head, a chair and my arm if I can find them.

dlplumer

Schnauzer wrote:

I had a red tailed hawk that I raised. I found him on a old dirt road. I thought he was dead. He had left the nest and hadn't learned to hunt well enough. I fed him baby food through a big eye dropper stuffed down his throat until he got his strength back. I ground up whole chicken heads for him after that plus all the road kills that I could find that were fresh.

He didn't look like the hawk in your picture.

I have pictures of him setting on my head, a chair and my arm if I can find them.

That's quite a story Ron. Did he get well and fly back into the wild? Let's see the photos.

Schnauzer

I kept him for over a year fearing he wouldn't make it if I let him go. Finally I decided he deserved a chance to live wild as he was meant to be and released him.

I have looked for the pictures and can't seem to find where I put them. I would love to find them and scan them.

dlplumer

Schnauzer wrote:

I kept him for over a year fearing he wouldn't make it if I let him go. Finally I decided he deserved a chance to live wild as he was meant to be and released him.

I have looked for the pictures and can't seem to find where I put them. I would love to find them and scan them.

You are a good man

dangles

The dark mark on the leading edge of the wings tells me this is a redtail, the red-shoulder does not have that.

dlplumer

dangles wrote:

The dark mark on the leading edge of the wings tells me this is a redtail, the red-shoulder does not have that.

Thanks very much Duane

KCBearcat

Whatever they are doesn't take away from the FACT that they're good captures.

Nice work, Dan.

dlplumer

KCBearcat wrote:

Whatever they are doesn't take away from the FACT that they're good captures.

Nice work, Dan.

Thanks very much Alan.