OT: I saw your website and see where you got a photo of JLaw in an actual moto. Now that's impressive shooting!!! If the kid could get it together, he would be on the top of the podium every weeek. I guess we all have our priorities!!!
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner! My man Tim Kelly gets it! It's that dang easy once you understand how it all works together. A CP filter will cut down the light so you aren't shooting at 1/4000 and ISO can bring you back up when you need it. Well done sir
and I continue to learn, I was obviously not very familiar with the auto ISO menu, in my defense I never really went there. I am a little bummed by the fact that I can't set the min SS above 250,(D300), So it won't come into play as much as I would've liked. I will be putting it to the test a few times though in the manual setting. Thank you for the knowledge.
but he's suggesting a bunch of auto settings, aren't you against that?[/quote]
Yes, he did. However the part that I highlighted was the part when he said he shot in Manual mode. Tim knows what he's doing well enough that he is comfortable in any mode.
Please let me clarify a few things. I've packed my camera with me to the track for the last year, almost every Saturday and Sunday. When I am not riding myself, I am usually shooting photos of my husband or daughter riding. When my husband and daughter are racing on the weekend, I shoot their motos and every other moto I can of the A, B and old fart class (that my husband is in)!
While I am a rookie rider and shooter, I do understand where the apex of a corner is, when to use the clutch, where to hit the power on the take off of a jump, when to shift and yes, I also know that a one finger or two finger grab on the clutch is ideal, not the three fingers my husband is showing in the photo I posted. (To his defense, this was the first couple of laps on his new bike and he had adjusted the clutch and he was reaching for it, it has now been adjusted and he is back to two fingers.)
I posted I was shooting a professional motocross race, I did not state I was professionally shooting a professional motocross race. I am attending with my family and want to get some good shots for my benefit, nobody else's benefit.
Last, I appreciate all of the help and guidance you have contributed this thread. I've printed this thread out and when I'm out at the track, dressed in my gear, mx boots with my new baby slung over my neck, I'll try to put all of these things to the test and then after I'm dusty, sweaty and tired from riding and shooting all day, I'll download my photos and see how I did. If I have some keepers, I will post them for your critique.
To share a little of who I am, I've posted (not the best resolution because I'm not on my own computer...) a photo I took last year at the beach with my family and a photo that my husband took of of my daughter and I before leaving for her first JoBros concert. No critiquing of this photo is allowed
Thanks!
Can I critique the choice of concerts? JK I have an 11 year old daughter as well,
Have fun riding, shooting and learning!
and I continue to learn, I was obviously not very familiar with the auto ISO menu, in my defense I never really went there. I am a little bummed by the fact that I can't set the min SS above 250,(D300), So it won't come into play as much as I would've liked. I will be putting it to the test a few times though in the manual setting. Thank you for the knowledge.
but he's suggesting a bunch of auto settings, aren't you against that?[/quote]
Yes, he did. However the part that I highlighted was the part when he said he shot in Manual mode. Tim knows what he's doing well enough that he is comfortable in any mode.
But with auto ISO...
the point that earlier today I was adamantly against as were you, while preaching manual mode as was I.
I think the more important point to take here, and that has been stated a few times, every situation warrants assessment. and, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
I shoot in manual 95% of the time, and earlier in this thread stated I couldn't see a good reason to use auto ISO, if nothing else I have come away with at least a good reason to test that statement.
OT: I saw your website and see where you got a photo of JLaw in an actual moto. Now that's impressive shooting!!! If the kid could get it together, he would be on the top of the podium every weeek. I guess we all have our priorities!!!
Haha, yea not many pics of that fool around anymore. He's a dang knucklehead. I can't imagine he will even be around next year. If he is, I don't imagine it will be on his own team. He might get picked up by some small satallite team. It's a shame.
But with auto ISO...
the point that earlier today I was adamantly against as were you, while preaching manual mode as was I.
I think the more important point to take here, and that has been stated a few times, every situation warrants assessment. and, there is more than one way to skin a cat.
I shoot in manual 95% of the time, and earlier in this thread stated I couldn't see a good reason to use auto ISO, if nothing else I have come away with at least a good reason to test that statement.
Yup, I agree. Especially shooting MX. Anytime you walk to a different part of the track, the lighting will be different.
A 41 yo mom thinking 17 yo Nick is the hot one isn't very funny to my daughter. She told me I had to get permission from dad for the top I chose to wear to the concert because it was too revealing!
I really, really appreciate everyone's help and graciousness!
A 41 yo mom thinking 17 yo Nick is the hot one isn't very funny to my daughter. She told me I had to get permission from dad for the top I chose to wear to the concert because it was too revealing!
I really, really appreciate everyone's help and graciousness!
Haha, I always tease my kids that I'm in love with Miley Cyrus and that she likes me too, but since I'm married, we can't be together. They don't really think that's funny, but I do. Haha
The EASIEST way to shoot MX is in Av mode. The pro's do it, so why not us? And to those that say to shoot in Tv..well..not many pros go that way.
Bright sunny day, shoot F4-F5.6 at ISO 100/200. Too dark or cloudy? Bump up the ISO. If the photos are still too dark, then lower your aperture a stop. Too bright? I don't think so with an ISO of 100 at F5.6. But if so, bump the aperture up another spot.
Yes..those will be stop action photo's that come out (and the majority of MX/SX are that way anyway), but you want simple and a place to start.
Once you start learning more, you can start going into manual mode (like Russ stated) and slowing the shutter speeds down (1/800 or so) and playing with other settings to get the shot how you want it to be. Once you get good at that, they you can really be fancy and get some nice panning shots at really slow shutter speeds.
You're just starting out and need something quick and easy. Don't worry about flash yet either, or understanding exposure compensation just yet, those are IMO, advanced users techniques.
You can't go wrong with the above settings, I guarantee it.
Your photo above suffers from too slow of a shutter speed, not aperture size, IMO.
Since someone asked me recently about my post, I thought I'd further explain as I see I didn't point it out here.
My examples were for the extremes, meaning at the point the camera is flashing that the shutter speed is too low or too high.
As taken from the Canon manual. Here is what I had meant.
"If the picture will be too dark, the shutter speed light will blink (30"), if this happens, turn the Av dial to a lower aperture value or increase the ISO speed.
If the picture will be too light, the shutter speed light will blink (4000"), if this happens, turn the Av dial to a higher aperture value or decrease the ISO speed."
Sorry for the confusion. As is/was stated by others, the only thing you are changing in Av mode is the shutter speed, whether by changing ISO or the aperture.
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Haha, yea not many pics of that fool around anymore. He's a dang knucklehead. I can't imagine he will even be around next year. If he is, I don't imagine it will be on his own team. He might get picked up by some small satallite team. It's a shame.
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Closet Jbros fan there!!! Blaming the innocent children. Haha
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I really, really appreciate everyone's help and graciousness!
Haha, I always tease my kids that I'm in love with Miley Cyrus and that she likes me too, but since I'm married, we can't be together. They don't really think that's funny, but I do. Haha
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I've never heard of either of those people/groups. Lucky you!
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Just a little kid then
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Never heard of April Wine either. I must have accidentally stumbled into the senior forum. Haha
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Since someone asked me recently about my post, I thought I'd further explain as I see I didn't point it out here.
My examples were for the extremes, meaning at the point the camera is flashing that the shutter speed is too low or too high.
As taken from the Canon manual. Here is what I had meant.
"If the picture will be too dark, the shutter speed light will blink (30"), if this happens, turn the Av dial to a lower aperture value or increase the ISO speed.
If the picture will be too light, the shutter speed light will blink (4000"), if this happens, turn the Av dial to a higher aperture value or decrease the ISO speed."
Sorry for the confusion. As is/was stated by others, the only thing you are changing in Av mode is the shutter speed, whether by changing ISO or the aperture.