Bob, I love watching you grow as a photographer. Really good stuff man
Thanks Dan you have really made my day although I think I have a long way to go. I really must applaud all you guys on Dgrin who have been so helpful to me for without this help I wouldn't be as confident as I am at the moment. Thanks to everyone.
Regards
Bob
I shot Horse Jumping for the first time this last Saturday and it is alot of fun.
I have some pictures of the event on my web site.
Take Care,
Charles,
Yes Charles I appreciate what you say about number one I have been giving this shot a lot of thought after it was previously admired. Am I right or wrong in saying there are others which are so similar to this one. Or I may be a thousand miles away I don't know. What is your website for me to look at?
Regards
Bob
Looks like you attended the City League show at the WNC Ag Center??
Hi Mark
Can you give me some kind of explanation about photo 1 as I have outlined in the previous post. By the way I have found out there are some more venues near me in the next three weeks so I really am looking forward to them weather permitting. Our weather is totally atrocious at the moment I should have been at a motor venue tonight testing my panning but it was cancelled.
Regards
Bob
Yes, the horse show I shot was at the Western North Carolina Ag center a few miles out of Asheville, NC.
Was you at the show Saturday HoofClix?
No, I wasn't there. I was down the hill at a hunter show at a place in Tryon called Harmon Field. I am actually a horse show organizer in my "spare time," and I ran the show down there (didn't photograph it).. www.BRHJA.com
I'm not sure who the official photog at the City League show was. "Pics-of -You??"
Hi Mark
Can you give me some kind of explanation about photo 1 as I have outlined in the previous post. By the way I have found out there are some more venues near me in the next three weeks so I really am looking forward to them weather permitting. Our weather is totally atrocious at the moment I should have been at a motor venue tonight testing my panning but it was cancelled.
Regards
Bob
Hey Bob, great that you found some more places.. I would think that in the UK you could see such a place from every streetcorner.....
I think you are asking for more explanation as to why I like the above #1.. It's not just that this is properly timed, but that the horse looks capable of doing the job, as does basically the rider. So you got a pretty shot, 1/3 because of what you did, 2/3 because of what they did. Keep in mind that you can really only control is how well you time their position. I figure that this horse cleared the jump.. Notice the horses knees up, level, even, rider is basically balance..
I'm speaking here as to what a rider will buy, and all three have to come together for that to happen, unless they just buy anything.. So in that second series you posted, #s 2, 9, and 11 are horrible, not because of your timing, but because the horse is riding abysmally... #s 4, 6, 7, 8, and 10, show signs of decent riding, but they are shot too late. #s 13, 14, and 15 are pretty much correct, except that the ears are all cocked..
Divavum talked about it from the Hunter viewpoint, an equestrian discipline that is rare over there in the UK. t is all form form form.. iThe saying is that Hunters are to Jumpers as Figure Skaters are to Speed Skaters. (Eventers get compared to a slightly rougher ice skating sport..) In jumpers there is a sort of "get the job done" mentality, but at higher levels they'd better learn the form or they won't make it..
If you can get to a few higher level jumper shows you will see much better results on the 2/3 that you can't control. Burghley is in only a few weeks: http://www.burghley-horse.co.uk/
Hey Bob, great that you found some more places.. I would think that in the UK you could see such a place from every streetcorner.....
I think you are asking for more explanation as to why I like the above #1.. It's not just that this is properly timed, but that the horse looks capable of doing the job, as does basically the rider. So you got a pretty shot, 1/3 because of what you did, 2/3 because of what they did. Keep in mind that you can really only control is how well you time their position. I figure that this horse cleared the jump.. Notice the horses knees up, level, even, rider is basically balance..
I'm speaking here as to what a rider will buy, and all three have to come together for that to happen, unless they just buy anything.. So in that second series you posted, #s 2, 9, and 11 are horrible, not because of your timing, but because the horse is riding abysmally... #s 4, 6, 7, 8, and 10, show signs of decent riding, but they are shot too late. #s 13, 14, and 15 are pretty much correct, except that the ears are all cocked..
Divavum talked about it from the Hunter viewpoint, an equestrian discipline that is rare over there in the UK. t is all form form form.. iThe saying is that Hunters are to Jumpers as Figure Skaters are to Speed Skaters. (Eventers get compared to a slightly rougher ice skating sport..) In jumpers there is a sort of "get the job done" mentality, but at higher levels they'd better learn the form or they won't make it..
If you can get to a few higher level jumper shows you will see much better results on the 2/3 that you can't control. Burghley is in only a few weeks: http://www.burghley-horse.co.uk/
Mark
Mark that was absolutely first class. It has given me a lot of time to work out exactly what you have said and it is the best advice I have ever had. Thanks once again and I hope my next images are up to standard.
Regards
Bob
"Divavum talked about it from the Hunter viewpoint, an equestrian discipline that is rare over there in the UK. t is all form form form.. iThe saying is that Hunters are to Jumpers as Figure Skaters are to Speed Skaters. (Eventers get compared to a slightly rougher ice skating sport..) In jumpers there is a sort of "get the job done" mentality, but at higher levels they'd better learn the form or they won't make it.."
Bingo. (Btw, for the record I DID do some jumpers, both "baby" classes in the UK, and then as a junior in the US, but because I'm a wimp over higher fences, never enjoyed it as much even though it WAS nice to just *ride* without all the "shoulds" getting in the way Of course, once I had come up through the US hunter/medal circuit, I had the "shoulds" drilled into my little equestrian pea brain and they've pretty much stayed ever since .... )
Mark's comments on the combination of horse/rider PLUS the photographic timing is exactly what I was going to say... until I saw he'd already said it. It's not ONLY your timing, but what they actually gave you to photograph!
I do hope you get to Burghley - I'll be pea green over those shots! (Ah me... I really REALLY need to get back to the UK more often...!!)
Hey Bob, great that you found some more places.. I would think that in the UK you could see such a place from every streetcorner.....
I think you are asking for more explanation as to why I like the above #1.. It's not just that this is properly timed, but that the horse looks capable of doing the job, as does basically the rider. So you got a pretty shot, 1/3 because of what you did, 2/3 because of what they did. Keep in mind that you can really only control is how well you time their position. I figure that this horse cleared the jump.. Notice the horses knees up, level, even, rider is basically balance..
I'm speaking here as to what a rider will buy, and all three have to come together for that to happen, unless they just buy anything.. So in that second series you posted, #s 2, 9, and 11 are horrible, not because of your timing, but because the horse is riding abysmally... #s 4, 6, 7, 8, and 10, show signs of decent riding, but they are shot too late. #s 13, 14, and 15 are pretty much correct, except that the ears are all cocked..
Divavum talked about it from the Hunter viewpoint, an equestrian discipline that is rare over there in the UK. t is all form form form.. iThe saying is that Hunters are to Jumpers as Figure Skaters are to Speed Skaters. (Eventers get compared to a slightly rougher ice skating sport..) In jumpers there is a sort of "get the job done" mentality, but at higher levels they'd better learn the form or they won't make it..
If you can get to a few higher level jumper shows you will see much better results on the 2/3 that you can't control. Burghley is in only a few weeks: http://www.burghley-horse.co.uk/
Mark
Thanks once again Mark for thoroughly explaining why this photo was much better than the rest. I have looked at the link for Burghly and I will try and get there to put into practice what you have said.
Regards
Bob
Thanks once again Mark for thoroughly explaining why this photo was much better than the rest. I have looked at the link for Burghly and I will try and get there to put into practice what you have said.
Regards
Bob
I should add that you might just read on the site to make sure they don't have any rules about bringing cameras in. I quit going to our 4-Star, Rolex, in 2005, and I think they may have started restricting the big lenses on site, maybe not. (It may be that they only restrict the ones who can go inside the ropes.) You should just check before you make the trek.
Keep in mind that Burghley, and Badminton, are more important to these riders than the Olympics, it being a 4-Star difficulty level, where the Olympics is only a 2-Star. Certainly wish I could go myself! Can't wait to see your pics..
I should add that you might just read on the site to make sure they don't have any rules about bringing cameras in. I quit going to our 4-Star, Rolex, in 2005, and I think they may have started restricting the big lenses on site, maybe not. (It may be that they only restrict the ones who can go inside the ropes.) You should just check before you make the trek.
Keep in mind that Burghley, and Badminton, are more important to these riders than the Olympics, it being a 4-Star difficulty level, where the Olympics is only a 2-Star. Certainly wish I could go myself! Can't wait to see your pics..
I have looked through the site and I cannot see any mention of cameras or lenses. I will contact them by phone tomorrow and see exactly what the position is. I have checked the location and I see it will be a 750 mile return trip for me so I think I want to be sure I can get some decent close up shots.
Regards
Bob
I have looked through the site and I cannot see any mention of cameras or lenses. I will contact them by phone tomorrow and see exactly what the position is. I have checked the location and I see it will be a 750 mile return trip for me so I think I want to be sure I can get some decent close up shots.
Regards
Bob
Hi Mark.
Today I contacted the box office at Burghley and spoke to Lisa Cole who told me that she had no knowledge of any camera or lens restrictions. The show jumping is on the Sunday 6th Sept and this would be the only day I could attend. However, the only seats that are left are well back in the uncovered stand and I do not think that would be any good to me using a 70-200L F.4 and trying to shoot over someones head.
I explained to Lisa what I was wanting to do and explained I was an amateur and I do not sell any photos and she suggested I send an email as it is the stewards discretion as to who enters the arena. She went on to say that the TV crews will be there and also a lot of professional photographers so I am awaiting a reply to my email with fingers crossed.
Regards
Bob
Hi Mark.
Today I contacted the box office at Burghley and spoke to Lisa Cole who told me that she had no knowledge of any camera or lens restrictions. The show jumping is on the Sunday 6th Sept and this would be the only day I could attend. However, the only seats that are left are well back in the uncovered stand and I do not think that would be any good to me using a 70-200L F.4 and trying to shoot over someones head.
I explained to Lisa what I was wanting to do and explained I was an amateur and I do not sell any photos and she suggested I send an email as it is the stewards discretion as to who enters the arena. She went on to say that the TV crews will be there and also a lot of professional photographers so I am awaiting a reply to my email with fingers crossed.
Regards
Bob
I received a reply back from Burghley to say that I was not allowed within the ring because of health and safety regulations. I will not be attending.
Regards
Bob
I received a reply back from Burghley to say that I was not allowed within the ring because of health and safety regulations. I will not be attending.
Regards
Bob
Hey, no problem. Just trying to point you in the right direction. Keep looking!
Once again I will have to be patient as all the venues I intended going to in the next two weeks have been cancelled due to all the rain we have had.
Regards
Bob
Comments
Thanks Dan you have really made my day although I think I have a long way to go. I really must applaud all you guys on Dgrin who have been so helpful to me for without this help I wouldn't be as confident as I am at the moment. Thanks to everyone.
Regards
Bob
I shot Horse Jumping for the first time this last Saturday and it is alot of fun.
I have some pictures of the event on my web site.
Take Care,
Charles,
Aperture Focus Photography
http://aperturefocus.com
Looks like you attended the City League show at the WNC Ag Center??
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
Yes Charles I appreciate what you say about number one I have been giving this shot a lot of thought after it was previously admired. Am I right or wrong in saying there are others which are so similar to this one. Or I may be a thousand miles away I don't know. What is your website for me to look at?
Regards
Bob
Hi Mark
Can you give me some kind of explanation about photo 1 as I have outlined in the previous post. By the way I have found out there are some more venues near me in the next three weeks so I really am looking forward to them weather permitting. Our weather is totally atrocious at the moment I should have been at a motor venue tonight testing my panning but it was cancelled.
Regards
Bob
Yes, the horse show I shot was at the Western North Carolina Ag center a few miles out of Asheville, NC.
Was you at the show Saturday HoofClix?
Bob, my link to my web site is listed below all my comments.
Take Care,
Charles
Aperture Focus Photography
http://aperturefocus.com
I'm not sure who the official photog at the City League show was. "Pics-of -You??"
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
I went into your link and clicked on Horse Shows but nothing came up. Sorry.
Regards
Bob
Hey Bob, great that you found some more places.. I would think that in the UK you could see such a place from every streetcorner.....
I think you are asking for more explanation as to why I like the above #1.. It's not just that this is properly timed, but that the horse looks capable of doing the job, as does basically the rider. So you got a pretty shot, 1/3 because of what you did, 2/3 because of what they did. Keep in mind that you can really only control is how well you time their position. I figure that this horse cleared the jump.. Notice the horses knees up, level, even, rider is basically balance..
I'm speaking here as to what a rider will buy, and all three have to come together for that to happen, unless they just buy anything.. So in that second series you posted, #s 2, 9, and 11 are horrible, not because of your timing, but because the horse is riding abysmally... #s 4, 6, 7, 8, and 10, show signs of decent riding, but they are shot too late. #s 13, 14, and 15 are pretty much correct, except that the ears are all cocked..
Divavum talked about it from the Hunter viewpoint, an equestrian discipline that is rare over there in the UK. t is all form form form.. iThe saying is that Hunters are to Jumpers as Figure Skaters are to Speed Skaters. (Eventers get compared to a slightly rougher ice skating sport..) In jumpers there is a sort of "get the job done" mentality, but at higher levels they'd better learn the form or they won't make it..
If you can get to a few higher level jumper shows you will see much better results on the 2/3 that you can't control. Burghley is in only a few weeks:
http://www.burghley-horse.co.uk/
Mark
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
Regards
Bob
Bingo. (Btw, for the record I DID do some jumpers, both "baby" classes in the UK, and then as a junior in the US, but because I'm a wimp over higher fences, never enjoyed it as much even though it WAS nice to just *ride* without all the "shoulds" getting in the way
Mark's comments on the combination of horse/rider PLUS the photographic timing is exactly what I was going to say... until I saw he'd already said it.
I do hope you get to Burghley - I'll be pea green over those shots! (Ah me... I really REALLY need to get back to the UK more often...!!)
Thanks once again Mark for thoroughly explaining why this photo was much better than the rest. I have looked at the link for Burghly and I will try and get there to put into practice what you have said.
Regards
Bob
I should add that you might just read on the site to make sure they don't have any rules about bringing cameras in. I quit going to our 4-Star, Rolex, in 2005, and I think they may have started restricting the big lenses on site, maybe not. (It may be that they only restrict the ones who can go inside the ropes.) You should just check before you make the trek.
Keep in mind that Burghley, and Badminton, are more important to these riders than the Olympics, it being a 4-Star difficulty level, where the Olympics is only a 2-Star. Certainly wish I could go myself! Can't wait to see your pics..
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
I have looked through the site and I cannot see any mention of cameras or lenses. I will contact them by phone tomorrow and see exactly what the position is. I have checked the location and I see it will be a 750 mile return trip for me so I think I want to be sure I can get some decent close up shots.
Regards
Bob
Hi Mark.
Today I contacted the box office at Burghley and spoke to Lisa Cole who told me that she had no knowledge of any camera or lens restrictions. The show jumping is on the Sunday 6th Sept and this would be the only day I could attend. However, the only seats that are left are well back in the uncovered stand and I do not think that would be any good to me using a 70-200L F.4 and trying to shoot over someones head.
I explained to Lisa what I was wanting to do and explained I was an amateur and I do not sell any photos and she suggested I send an email as it is the stewards discretion as to who enters the arena. She went on to say that the TV crews will be there and also a lot of professional photographers so I am awaiting a reply to my email with fingers crossed.
Regards
Bob
I received a reply back from Burghley to say that I was not allowed within the ring because of health and safety regulations. I will not be attending.
Regards
Bob
Hey, no problem. Just trying to point you in the right direction. Keep looking!
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
Thanks Mark I will certainly be there next year. I have a venue on Sunday, Hunter trials but the weather forecast is not good at all.
Regards
Bob
www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
Mmmm I will have to try that Mark.
Regards
Bob
Once again I will have to be patient as all the venues I intended going to in the next two weeks have been cancelled due to all the rain we have had.
Regards
Bob