Beautiful little girl...

Rhinotherunt

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Cuong

That's gorgeous! Looks almost like a fine painting. What kind of processing treatment did you use?

Cuong

adbsgicom

Very ethereal!
Well-lit.

marikris

I love this image - she looks like a cherub with that halo of cloudy blond hair.

Rhinotherunt

Cuong wrote:

That's gorgeous! Looks almost like a fine painting. What kind of processing treatment did you use?

Cuong

Coung,

Thanks for the kind words! I used the smudge technique.

SOOC:

Rhinotherunt

adbsgicom wrote:

Very ethereal!
Well-lit.

Thanks Andrew!

Rhinotherunt

marikris wrote:

I love this image - she looks like a cherub with that halo of cloudy blond hair.

Thanks Markris, so you think the mother is going to love it?

marikris

Rhinotherunt wrote:

Thanks Markris, so you think the mother is going to love it?

Yes would be an understatement! She will be ecstatic

bdcolen

Rhinotherunt wrote:

Coung,

Thanks for the kind words! I used the smudge technique.

SOOC:

I know I'm in a minority here, but I think the original is incomparably better than the first. The second is a portrait of a gorgeous little girl. The first reminds me of Jon Benet Ramsey. Why oh why does anyone think it's necessary to "improve" upon the natural looks of a child, particularly a beautiful child?

Rhinotherunt

bdcolen wrote:

I know I'm in a minority here, but I think the original is incomparably better than the first. The second is a portrait of a gorgeous little girl. The first reminds me of Jon Benet Ramsey. Why oh why does anyone think it's necessary to "improve" upon the natural looks of a child, particularly a beautiful child?

This is really not to improve the natural looks of the child, but rather an artistic impression of the child. The mother wants something painterly and printed on canvas. I understand your point of view and agree 100%.

marikris

bdcolen wrote:

Why oh why does anyone think it's necessary to "improve" upon the natural looks of a child, particularly a beautiful child?

Beauty, style and art are subjective? It depends on what you're trying to achieve?

Richard

Kudos for a great shot and for giving the client what she wants. Well done.

Rhinotherunt

marikris wrote:

Beauty, style and art are subjective? It depends on what you're trying to achieve?

It is, but I understand what he is saying.

Rhinotherunt

Richard wrote:

Kudos for a great shot and for giving the client what she wants. Well done.

Thanks Richard!!!

marikris

Rhinotherunt wrote:

It is, but I understand what he is saying.

You were trying to please your client, and I think you achieved that (or at least once she sees it lol)

pwp

bdcolen wrote:

I know I'm in a minority here, but I think the original is incomparably better than the first. The second is a portrait of a gorgeous little girl. The first reminds me of Jon Benet Ramsey. Why oh why does anyone think it's necessary to "improve" upon the natural looks of a child, particularly a beautiful child?

I'm with BD on this one! The processing is just overdone. I know the point was to "fix" the hair, but it looks unnatural, almost like running (polluted at that) water.

I don't doubt that the mother will love it, it's just not my taste.

Rhinotherunt

marikris wrote:

You were trying to please your client, and I think you achieved that (or at least once she sees it lol)

Yeah, true...

Rhinotherunt

pwp wrote:

I'm with BD on this one! The processing is just overdone. I know the point was to "fix" the hair, but it looks unnatural, almost like running (polluted at that) water.

I don't doubt that the mother will love it, it's just not my taste.

Awe it is not that bad... is it? Different strokes for different folks.

Agnieszka

I like what you did here. Looks like a painting, and I'm sure it will look beautiful on a canvas.

Rhinotherunt

Agnieszka wrote:

I like what you did here. Looks like a painting, and I'm sure it will look beautiful on a canvas.

Thank you Angie!

pwp

Rhinotherunt wrote:

Awe it is not that bad... is it? Different strokes for different folks.

No, not bad! Sorry if I was harsh...it's just that I am more of a realist when it comes to photos of children in particular. Like I said, it's just not my taste, but I am sure the mom would love it on a canvas!

Morris On Location

LOVE it..
I absolutely love what you did with the picture...yes she is absolutely gorgeous just how she is .. but your treatment did a fine job of simulating a painting which is pretty awesome.. I still pick up my oils and paint once in a blue moon and I could only dream of composing something as lovely...well .done..

rainbow

It is a beautiful job.

Now an observation from one less skilled at this: the reflection difference of the lightsource (catchlight?) in the pupils between the right and left eyes jumps out at me. The left is fainter and looks like a ring within ring, which does not show as much in the right eye.

Rhinotherunt

pwp wrote:

No, not bad! Sorry if I was harsh...it's just that I am more of a realist when it comes to photos of children in particular. Like I said, it's just not my taste, but I am sure the mom would love it on a canvas!

It is all good PW. No hurtfeelings here.

Rhinotherunt

Morris On Location wrote:

I absolutely love what you did with the picture...yes she is absolutely gorgeous just how she is .. but your treatment did a fine job of simulating a painting which is pretty awesome.. I still pick up my oils and paint once in a blue moon and I could only dream of composing something as lovely...well .done..

Thank you! I wish I had talent to do real oils!!! This is the only way I can do "art".

Rhinotherunt

rainbow wrote:

It is a beautiful job.

Now an observation from one less skilled at this: the reflection difference of the lightsource (catchlight?) in the pupils between the right and left eyes jumps out at me. The left is fainter and looks like a ring within ring, which does not show as much in the right eye.

Thanks! I can fix the catchlight. Never noticed til you pointed it out. Thanks!

happysmileylady

bdcolen wrote:

I know I'm in a minority here, but I think the original is incomparably better than the first. The second is a portrait of a gorgeous little girl. The first reminds me of Jon Benet Ramsey. Why oh why does anyone think it's necessary to "improve" upon the natural looks of a child, particularly a beautiful child?

See, to me, I see two seperate shots. I see a super cute shot that shows personality on the second. On the first, I see an artistic representation of the soul within the child. The original has a much more child like quality, is a great portrait of a cute kid. The edit has a more spiritual quality that speaks about the innocense of a child.

eta: one super tiny nit, the hair in the iris of her eye really bugs.

Mitchell

This is a nicely done smudge painting. I do these frequently. They look wonderful when printed on canvas or textured paper.

People either love them or hate them.

bdcolen

Rhinotherunt wrote:

Thanks! I can fix the catchlight. Never noticed til you pointed it out. Thanks!

Point of clarification -

I assumed the 'painterly' portrait was what Mom wanted, and believe me I understand the need to give the client what the client wants. So my comments have to do with Mom, not you -

kdog

I like both versions, although my preference is the au-natural version. Is it possible to do the processing somewhere between the two? I might also show the client both versions if possible, you might double your sale. (Stranger things have happened to me along these lines. )

Regards,
-joel

divamum

My own taste is for the more natural image, but the processed one is a fine rendition within that very specific "oil painting" style that some people like - I'm sure it does look great on canvas ... within that style.

I'm with BD - you took a great picture and processed it according to client request, and made a good job of it, even it it's not the look I want in my own pictures of for my own daughter (I'm with BD - the comments are more to do with mom's artistic taste than your competence at delivering it!!)