new canon 5d

Andy · August 9, 2005

Seamus wrote:

hopefully there will be loads of cheap second hand 1dmk11's on sale soon.

and perhaps some 1Ds Mark IIs :uhoh

Bodley · August 9, 2005

Seamus wrote:

hopefully there will be loads of cheap second hand 1dmk11's on sale soon.

Don't think so - a lot of 1DmkII users are sports shooters and 3fps is not a big draw for that crowd.

Hope I'm wrong - I could use a cheap backup

gtc · August 9, 2005

I'm with you on that and...

wxwax wrote:

Told you so.

Don't worry, 2 more years down the road and they'll have another one you'll want. It may never end.

I agree!

Speaking as someone who is just off to the shop now to pick up his 20d and ef-s macro 60 I couldn't be less bothered- it looks great but expensive-maybe in a few years after I have come close to exploring the full functionality of my 20d ,if that ever happens,then I might see about picking up one of these on the secondhand market.

It looks like it will nicely fill a gap.

The Canon range now has pro- 1dsmk2,semi-pro /enthusiast(the new baby),enthusiast(20d) and consumer/enthusiast(350d)

My tip is that they won't discontinue 20d as it fills a logical place in the lineup-a full frame pro and a full frame semi-pro/enthusiast as the top grouping and a second layer with the aps-c 20d and 350d.

Between you and me I think that if Canon increases the range of efs lenses available, that the 20d will flourish in the travel and photojournalism market, due to light weight ,portability and manageable files sizes for uploading purposes.

JohnR · August 9, 2005

Personally I think it's fake.

A friend said to me:
"Canon has 3 DSLR categories: Pro (one digit: 1D+1Ds families), Prosumer (two digits: D30, D60, 10D, 20D families), Consumer (three digits: 300D, 350D families)

The 5D being a single digit falls into the Pro category and missing important pro features: a weather sealed body + 45 AF points + more..."

ziggy53 · August 9, 2005

The Canon 1Ds is getting old
I kinda' wonder if this is positioned as a replacement for the 1Ds? (Not the MKII, but the original.) It has some upgrade features but the same (almost) resolution and shooting speed.

The 1Ds is about 3 years old, so I could see it happening.

ziggy53

S. Reed · August 9, 2005

Anybody wanna buy a well used 10D?

Andy · August 9, 2005

S. Reed wrote:

Anybody wanna buy a well used 10D?

betcha lotsa folks will be interested in that camera, put it up for sale in our b&s forum

David_S85 · August 10, 2005

Looking more into these specs... Q's
Listed is an ISO-L @ 50. This is interesting; but needed? H is still 3200.

Why would the flash sync be limited to 1/200th when Canon has already moved beyond that to 1/250th with the 20D? Somehow, this doesn't make sense to me.

I also just noticed that the histogram seems to have two readouts: Brightness or RGB. Perhaps this is a setting with one of those extra custom functions?

gtc · August 10, 2005

hmm

andy wrote:

return email from mr bowes{spliff}

ya gotta love amsterdam. in nyc, i'd tell him: "i'll take you out for a big steak, and some beerz..."

remind me never to invite you to join me in a spliff

Seamus · August 10, 2005

Bodley wrote:

Don't think so - a lot of 1DmkII users are sports shooters and 3fps is not a big draw for that crowd.

Hope I'm wrong - I could use a cheap backup

There is a reference to a 1dmk11 N on the first page of the document
http://alex.netfun.ro/Canon5D-specs.pdf

That's why I'm hoping there will be a glut of mk11's at the end of the year

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Michiel de Brieder · August 10, 2005

Seamus wrote:

There is a reference to a 1dmk11 N on the first page of the document
http://alex.netfun.ro/Canon5D-specs.pdf

That's why I'm hoping there will be a glut of mk11's at the end of the year .

Yeah, the 1Ds MII will drop like crazy so to Andy, you'd better sell it to me for €1500 now or you'll never get rid of it

yvonne · August 10, 2005

In all honesty, this 5D isn't really doing it for me. FF, ok. But I've now got used to getting a nice bit of close up with my 70-200. And as for more pixels? I shoot weddings and portraits. I don't need more pixels. Otherwise I've got to be yet more harddrives. I would've liked to have seen higher ISO and/or some image stabilisation functions.

I won't be queueing up on day one just yet...

Andy · August 10, 2005

yvonne wrote:

In all honesty, this 5D isn't really doing it for me. FF, ok. But I've now got used to getting a nice bit of close up with my 70-200. And as for more pixels? I shoot weddings and portraits. I don't need more pixels. Otherwise I've got to be yet more harddrives. I would've liked to have seen higher ISO and/or some image stabilisation functions.

I won't be queueing up on day one just yet...

hey, to be sure, such a camera isn't for everyone - the 20d is an extremely capable camera, so there's got to be a reason for upgrading - for some, it might be the huge lcd screen, for on-site review - for others, it might be the added resolution, and ff bright optical viewfinder...

it's interesting to discuss, that's for sure

Bodley · August 10, 2005

andy wrote:

dpreview and fredmiranda are all agog over a possible leak on the new canon camera. i have just spoken to the guy that authored this document and after 15 mins on the phone with jim bowes from his office in the netherlands, i'm at this point willing to say that the info is legit and real.

pretty darn cool if you ask me

discuss.

How about hitting the redial and asking Ol Jim if he can send out the spec sheet for the 1DmkII-N. You know us Dgrinners can keep a secrete

Ruud G. · August 10, 2005

5d?????????

yvonne wrote:

In all honesty, this 5D isn't really doing it for me. FF, ok. But I've now got used to getting a nice bit of close up with my 70-200. And as for more pixels? I shoot weddings and portraits. I don't need more pixels. Otherwise I've got to be yet more harddrives. I would've liked to have seen higher ISO and/or some image stabilisation functions.

I won't be queueing up on day one just yet...

I agree with that, Now I have the 20D, and I really like the camera.
No more pixels needed and because we most of the time use the 100-400mm in southern africa on safari...I wait a while..

Ruud

http://www.afrikafotosafari.nl

mercphoto · August 10, 2005

I got a chance to speak with a Canon regional rep a few months back during a dog-and-pony show at my local store. I had asked him about the Mark II versus my 20D. I told him I liked much about the Mark II, but liked the 1.6X crop factor because of my sports photography (which wants telephoto, not wide angle). He said don't hold your breath on a 1.6 crop factor Mark II. He said most pros don't like the 1.3 crop factor already, and a 1.6 would be worse. They want the large viewfinder, the ease of manual focus. They also want the shallow depth of field that full frame gives. As per crop factor, the big pros simply buy bigger glass. I guess its people like me who need to compensate focal length with sensor size.

Now, what would not surprise me any is the consumer and pro-sumer line stays 1.6 with the EF-S mount, and the 1.3 body disappears, leaving only 1.6 and full-frame in the line up.

wxwax · August 10, 2005

Your Canon guy makes a lot of sense. Bigger image in the viewfinder and easier manual focus are big deals, for me.

marlof · August 10, 2005

Ruud G. wrote:

http://www.afrikafotosafari.nl

Good stuff!

ziggy53 · August 11, 2005

Advert on the new Canon 5D
http://www.sdcard.be/English/store/viewitem.asp?idproduct=8981357

Andy · August 11, 2005

good find, ziggy!

ziggy53 wrote:

http://www.sdcard.be/English/store/viewitem.asp?idproduct=8981357

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sign me up

gubbs · August 11, 2005

Oh no, what am I going to do now, when is it going to end:help

ziggy53 · August 11, 2005

gubbs wrote:

... when is it going to end:help

Hopefully, never! Compared to the technology of 10 years ago (heck, even 5 years ago) I love this time for anything to do with images, still and motion. It just gets better and better, and generally cheaper too.

If we could get lenses to come down in price at the same rate as cameras and computers ...

I can't wait to see in 10 years what is available.

ziggy53

patch29 · August 11, 2005

andy wrote:

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sign me up

Price, but not the most expensive, so if it is 3800 Euros, does that mean it will be $4800 USD?

Not horrible, but not great. It would be an awesome backpack/landscape camera.

mercphoto · August 11, 2005

patch29 wrote:

Price, but not the most expensive, so if it is 3800 Euros, does that mean it will be $4800 USD? Not horrible, but not great. It would be an awesome backpack/landscape camera.

I'm wondering how good a wedding/portrait camera it would be, especially for those that can't afford the 16MP 1Ds Mark II. If this camera is real, what market and end-user is Canon trying to hit?

patch29 · August 11, 2005

mercphoto wrote:

I'm wondering how good a wedding/portrait camera it would be, especially for those that can't afford the 16MP 1Ds Mark II. If this camera is real, what market and end-user is Canon trying to hit?

I don't know if it will be a good wedding camera, yes for wide angle and small size, but 12mp is getting really big for weddings.

If the high ISO's were very noise free that would make it a huge plus for weddings. Portraits, the mpx could be very useful for large wall prints.

Andy · August 11, 2005

patch29 wrote:

Price, but not the most expensive, so if it is 3800 Euros, does that mean it will be $4800 USD? Not horrible, but not great. It would be an awesome backpack/landscape camera.

see this post on page one of this thread.

patch29 · August 11, 2005

andy wrote:

see this post on page one of this thread.

Thanks, I thought this later doc has a higher euro price (3698).

I guess I am waiting to see when the US is going to start paying more now that the dollar is less than the Euro, but I guess all that matters is the Yen?

Seamus · August 11, 2005

patch29 wrote:

Thanks, I thought this later doc has a higher euro price (3698).

I guess I am waiting to see when the US is going to start paying more now that the dollar is less than the Euro, but I guess all that matters is the Yen?

prices in euro and dollar are roughly the same for camera equipment. A 1d mk11 is €4,200 here and is $4,000 in the US. So the 5d should be around $3.500.

shay

patch29 · August 11, 2005

Seamus wrote:

prices in euro and dollar are roughly the same for camera equipment. A 1d mk11 is €4,200 here and is $4,000 in the US. So the 5d should be around $3.500.

shay

$3500 is a lot better then $4800 or whatever a direct conversion would be.

I'll wait two weeks after andy gets his and wants to sell it.

Seamus · August 11, 2005

patch29 wrote:

$3500 is a lot better then $4800 or whatever a direct conversion would be.

I'll wait two weeks after andy gets his and wants to sell it.

new canon 5d

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