*ENTRY* Thread DSS #56 (Panning or Painting)

sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
edited August 10, 2010 in The Dgrin Challenges
Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge #56

Welcome to Round #56 of the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenges. This challenge is open to any Dgrin member. It will run from Monday, July 26, 8:00am PST time (GMT -7) on through Monday, August 9, 8:00am PST time (GMT -7).

The topic ready for your interpretation: Panning or Painting (one shot)

This round is all about motion and capturing it within your frame. Panning with your camera or painting with light both utilise slow shutter speeds to show motion.

Panning or Painting

Note: in this round only one EXIF is allowed no multiple shots or layers can be used. Capture your shot all in one shutter press.

Your Judges:
sweetharmony (Winner of Round 53)
Guest Judge: Angela Davis

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your entry is to be submitted directly into a SmugMug gallery. It's pretty simple, just go to the gallery link below, and follow the upload instructions at the top of the page: Remember, the basics stay the same: 1 entry per person, and the photo must be fresh, taken during this contest period. Do not use a minimal save method (such as "save for web"), and your EXIF will be embedded in your image, no worries!

To avoid disqualification, read, in full, the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge Rules, there have been some slight modifications
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  • HoofClixHoofClix Registered Users Posts: 1,156 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    Sean, we can do some cleanup and adjustment I hope..

    Tip folks, that panning shows how dirty your sensor is or can get! Clean them before you shoot!!
    Mark
    www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
    and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    Of course Mark,
    All other editing is allowed other than multiple EXIF captures or duplicate layers. :D
  • WhatSheSawWhatSheSaw Registered Users Posts: 2,221 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    This should be interesting! Painting I understand. Guess I'll have to work on panning. :D
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    WhatSheSaw wrote: »
    This should be interesting! Painting I understand. Guess I'll have to work on panning. :D

    That is one reason to have "or" you get to choose which one inspires you or that you understand the most. :D
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    Sean, Do you think "painting with light" would also be considered the same as "light painting"??
    example: http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=559932&postcount=25
    Aaron Nelson
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    Sean, Do you think "painting with light" would also be considered the same as "light painting"??
    example: http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=559932&postcount=25

    Yes that is also painting with light. But my example shows that in this round we are trying to concentrate on showing movement. You are of course welcome to paint away however you wish mwink.gif
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    The stars might show the movement...(maybe?) I hope thats the way the judges see it... damn blind judges....:D
    Aaron Nelson
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    Yes of course if your shot includes stars that would in my opinion fit the theme quite well. But as you say that will be up to the judges. thumb.gif
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 26, 2010
    Yikes. This may be beyond my ability (I'll admit it). I'll give it a shot though!
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • HoofClixHoofClix Registered Users Posts: 1,156 Major grins
    edited July 27, 2010
    SeascapeS wrote: »
    Yikes. This may be beyond my ability (I'll admit it). I'll give it a shot though!
    Lots and lots of advice on both painting and panning technique all over Dgrin. Do a search on the word and read up on all of it.
    Mark
    www.HoofClix.com / Personal Facebook / Facebook Page
    and I do believe its true.. that there are roads left in both of our shoes..
  • SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited July 27, 2010
    I can do this, I can do this. If I keep repeating it, it might be true.
    SandiZ
    If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn't need to lug around a camera. ~Lewis Hine
    http://sandizphotos-seascapes.smugmug.com/
  • NikonsandVstromsNikonsandVstroms Registered Users Posts: 990 Major grins
    edited July 28, 2010
    This is going to be a fun challenge and something I've been meaning to work on so you gave me that "kick in the butt" to actually go out and do some shots.
  • JennJenn Registered Users Posts: 1,009 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    was hoping to look at some examples of first tries, but no one has posted any yet!
    Jenn (from Oklahoma)
    Panasonic Lumix 10x DMC-TZ3 :photo
    Leica Mega O.I.S./28mm WIDE :smile6
  • dniednie Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,351 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Jenn wrote: »
    was hoping to look at some examples of first tries, but no one has posted any yet!

    I am having to think about this one quite a bit. It isn't just coming up with the idea, it is figuring out the whole how the heck do you pull it off and do it right. This one is a lot harder than just any old picture, at least for me.
  • BinaryFxBinaryFx Registered Users Posts: 707 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Sean, can it be about capturing/showing any movement, as long as the shot is dynamic...or does it have to be only painting with light or panning?

    For example, long exposures of traffic at night show movement of tail or headlights, very long exposures of stars can show star trails etc.

    Am I over thinking things? Should I just go ahead and shoot some red shoes?!


    Cheers,

    Stephen Marsh

    http://binaryfx.customer.netspace.net.au/ (coming soon!)
    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~binaryfx/
    http://prepression.blogspot.com/
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    dnie wrote: »
    I am having to think about this one quite a bit. It isn't just coming up with the idea, it is figuring out the whole how the heck do you pull it off and do it right. This one is a lot harder than just any old picture, at least for me.

    I agree that this round is a bit more challenging than usual. But I would hope that every round stimulates you to learn something new and try and shoot something a bit better than "any old picture".

    What part of panning are you struggling with? The idea in itself is quite simple, it is just trying to find an interesting subject that is moving fast that is actually more challenging. With painting as long as you have the ability to keep your shutter open for longer than a few seconds the possibilities are endless, maybe look at some of the images here for inspiration.
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    BinaryFx wrote: »
    Sean, can it be about capturing/showing any movement, as long as the shot is dynamic...or does it have to be only painting with light or panning?

    For example, long exposures of traffic at night show movement of tail or headlights, very long exposures of stars can show star trails etc.

    Am I over thinking things? Should I just go ahead and shoot some red shoes?!

    The challenge is certainly not about "any movement".
    You could paint yourself some red shoe outlines with a red light :D

    If you find yourself totally stuck with the two themes then sure go ahead and find something that will paint a light trail without your intervention. I thought that having complete control over a light or multiple lights in your hand would present many more creative possibilities then waiting for the earth to rotate. mwink.gif

    Of course I would prefer to see some awesome examples of panning or some really creative light paintings. On the other hand I do not want you to be so discouraged by the technicalities that you do not give it a good try. Your suggestions of traffic or stars will work well if you find on an interesting angle for the traffic, or mix up the star trails by tracing a light outline of the mountains for your stars?

    Hopefully you are inspired enough to go out and try, you never know what amazing image will result from it.

    Sean
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Jenn wrote: »
    was hoping to look at some examples of first tries, but no one has posted any yet!

    It was just a matter of time. Here is the first one. clap.gif
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Here is a video that might inspire a few of you.
    There are effects in the second half of the video that look more like painting after the fact with special effects. But the first part shows some interesting ideas.
    All I'm looking for in this challenge is ONE frame not a whole video


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-an8cwkUE
  • dniednie Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,351 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    I agree that this round is a bit more challenging than usual. But I would hope that every round stimulates you to learn something new and try and shoot something a bit better than "any old picture".

    What part of panning are you struggling with? The idea in itself is quite simple, it is just trying to find an interesting subject that is moving fast that is actually more challenging. With painting as long as you have the ability to keep your shutter open for longer than a few seconds the possibilities are endless, maybe look at some of the images here for inspiration.

    :) oh, it isn't so much a struggle as it is more my obsession with getting a shot that is really different. I could probably get a panning shot of some kind at the refuge, and may still. What I want to try to tackle is the light. It is a matter if finding a unique way of doing it. :) Thanks for the encouragement.
  • FrochFroch Registered Users Posts: 571 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    Of course Mark,
    All other editing is allowed other than multiple EXIF captures or duplicate layers. :D

    Sorry Sean, I'm a little dense here. Just want to clarify the Layers.
    My guess is adjustments associated with a layer (but themselves become a layer) are cool (ie, curves, HSL, etc.)?
    But what about dupes that are adjusted and blended? No good, right?

    I'm good either way.
  • JR303JR303 Registered Users Posts: 135 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Well, Sean, you'll be glad to know that out of approximately 192 panning shots, I've got zilch so far.

    Thanks, though, because it's something I've always been too insecure to try, but damn it's difficult.

    Well, zilch really isn't fair, I've got one pretty embarrassing shot of my son. In about 10 years, I'll be using it as ammunition.

    John
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Froch wrote: »
    Sorry Sean, I'm a little dense here. Just want to clarify the Layers.
    My guess is adjustments associated with a layer (but themselves become a layer) are cool (ie, curves, HSL, etc.)?
    But what about dupes that are adjusted and blended? No good, right?

    I'm good either way.

    Fair question. I will break it down further,
    Adjustment layers = yes
    Duplicate layers = no
  • WhatSheSawWhatSheSaw Registered Users Posts: 2,221 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    Here is a video that might inspire a few of you.
    There are effects in the second half of the video that look more like painting after the fact with special effects. But the first part shows some interesting ideas.
    All I'm looking for in this challenge is ONE frame not a whole video <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/mwink.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

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    Cool video. Looks like I'll have to spend some time on painting, too! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/wings.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
  • liflanderliflander Registered Users Posts: 339 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    Sean, there's no restriction on using strobes with panning on this round?
    Thanks,
    Mark
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    liflander wrote: »
    Sean, there's no restriction on using strobes with panning on this round?
    Thanks,
    Mark

    Not sure I follow how your going implement strobes unless your dragging the shutter?
    Regardless sounds interesting and worth trying - Go For It! thumb.gif
  • JAGJAG Super Moderators Posts: 9,088 moderator
    edited July 29, 2010
    I did something simular to this for a challenge quite a while back. I don't remember now what that theme was but here were some of my results then...
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    I had a flood in our downstair walk in basement and it flooded my studio. I have to get everything back in its place in order to be able to do anymore shots like these. That is of coarse I don't come up with a panning shot first.
  • jwearjwear Registered Users Posts: 8,013 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    like Jag just posted ,Sean are you saying that this kind of shot will not do ? camera locked down and moving the light [painting with light] ne_nau.gif
    Jeff W

    “PHOTOGRAPHY IS THE ‘JAZZ’ FOR THE EYES…”

    http://jwear.smugmug.com/
  • sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    jwear wrote: »
    like Jag just posted ,Sean are you saying that this kind of shot will not do ? camera locked down and moving the light [painting with light] ne_nau.gif

    Jag's examples are exactly what I'm thinking when I say painting with light. Jag the theme was "modify the light" if I remember correctly.
  • liflanderliflander Registered Users Posts: 339 Major grins
    edited July 29, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    Not sure I follow how your going implement strobes unless your dragging the shutter?
    Regardless sounds interesting and worth trying - Go For It! thumb.gif

    Yes Sean, I'm thinking about dragging the shutter with strobes. Thanks.
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