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*ENTRY* Thread DSS #60 (Lace or Leather - Monotone only) CLOSED

sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
edited October 5, 2010 in The Dgrin Challenges
Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge #60

Welcome to Round #60 of the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenges. This challenge is open to any Dgrin member.
It will run from Monday, September 20, 8:00am PST time (GMT -7) on through Monday, October 4, 7:00pm PST time (GMT -7). NOTE: the ending time change.

The topic ready for your interpretation: Lace or Leather - Monotone only
Your image must be either Black and White or Monotone

Your Judges:
ilbcnu (Winner of Round 56)
Guest Judge: 23 hour (Public Vote)

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your entry is to be submitted directly into a SmugMug gallery. It's pretty simple, just go to the gallery link below, and follow the upload instructions at the top of the page:
Remember, the basics stay the same: 1 entry per person, and the photo must be fresh, taken during this contest period. Do not use a minimal save method (such as "save for web"), and your EXIF will be embedded in your image, no worries!

To avoid disqualification, read, in full, the Dgrin Sharp Shooters Challenge Rules, there have been some slight modifications
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    pyroPrints.compyroPrints.com Registered Users Posts: 1,383 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Oh boy, this can get R-Rated =c)

    On an unrelated note, can you define Monotone for us?
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    sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    Oh boy, this can get R-Rated =c)

    On an unrelated note, can you define Monotone for us?

    :nono If it belongs in the "Go Figure" Forum it does not belong in DSS. Please read the rules if your at all in doubt.


    Monotone = Consisting of a single tone with variations of shade from 0% - 100%. What this means is instead of Black and white only, sepia tones, blue tones, or even red tones will be all allowed. Monotone can also be considered Monochrome.
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    Angela DavisAngela Davis Registered Users Posts: 62 Big grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    thumb.gif Sweet Challenge
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    misterbmisterb Banned Posts: 601 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    thumb.gif

    This should be cool..
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    SeascapeSSeascapeS Registered Users Posts: 814 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    I like this one! So many possibilities!
    SandiZ
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    WhatSheSawWhatSheSaw Registered Users Posts: 2,221 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    I already have a bunch of ideas. This should be fun!

    Now to see if I can stretch my imagination like Sean did in the mini. :D
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    racerracer Registered Users Posts: 333 Major grins
    edited September 20, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    :nono If it belongs in the "Go Figure" Forum it does not belong in DSS.

    I keep seeing "if it belongs in the go figure forum", but I dont have a clue were this forum is or what kind of photos are allowed there headscratch.gif
    It is pretty confusing when there is a rule that says to go by another rule that says to go by yet another rule that you are not allowed to see headscratch.gif

    I have some ideas, but I am not sure if PG is okay (no nudity), or if this all has to be rated G/family friendly. There will be a biker festival in town, so plenty of leather and lace :D
    Todd - My Photos
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    sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    The Go Figure forum is a sub forum of the people forum.
    Not really that confusing if you take the time to read the rules. The part that is important in this case is number 11.
    No Nudity: Nudity may not be entered into the challenges. Use discretion for implied shots, but if it belongs in the Go Figure forum, it does not belong in the challenges.

    There is even a link to the GF forum in number 11. deal.gif
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    racerracer Registered Users Posts: 333 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    The Go Figure forum is a sub forum of the people forum.
    Not really that confusing if you take the time to read the rules. The part that is important in this case is number 11.
    No Nudity: Nudity may not be entered into the challenges. Use discretion for implied shots, but if it belongs in the Go Figure forum, it does not belong in the challenges.

    There is even a link to the GF forum in number 11. deal.gif

    rolleyes1.gif YES, I read the rules, that is what I am saying!!! I totally understood the no nudity, but when I go to the rules, it says to go to the "Go Figure" forum, and it pops up asking for a password rolleyes1.gif I am not trying to make this hard or try to challenge the rules or anything, I was just lost (and still am) when I read a rule, that pointed me to another rule, that I cant read headscratch.gif
    Really, it is not that big of deal, I was just asking for clarification at to what the rest of the rule was/were it was located (since I am not allowed to see it at the link) ne_nau.gif
    Todd - My Photos
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    LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    The password is in the description of the Go Figure forum. Look on the main forum page (People) and read the description under the Go Figure forum at the top.

    Just a little more reading required. deal.gif
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    racerracer Registered Users Posts: 333 Major grins
    edited September 21, 2010
    Llywellyn wrote: »
    The password is in the description of the Go Figure forum. Look on the main forum page (People) and read the description under the Go Figure forum at the top.

    Thanks

    Its a bit harsh being a newb here :hide
    Todd - My Photos
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    sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2010
    racer wrote: »
    Its a bit harsh being a newb here :hide

    Sorry that you feel treated harshly, that certainly was not my intention nor anyone else's. Once you get used to the surroundings you will find we are all pretty friendly. Hopefully now that you have been told about where to find the password you have had a chance to see what "Go Figure" is all about.

    Honestly though "No nudity" is pretty much all you need to know about #11 in the rules. :D
    Your idea of shooting at a bikers festival sounds like it will work perfectly fine for the theme thumb.gif
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    LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited September 22, 2010
    No harshness intended! I should have added an extra smiley in there. :D

    Hope you got the answers you needed. thumb.gif
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    KronkKronk Registered Users Posts: 3 Beginner grinner
    edited September 22, 2010
    SeascapeS wrote: »
    I like this one! So many possibilities!

    I wish I had one thought . ne_nau.gif I am really stumped so far.headscratch.gif
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    WhatSheSawWhatSheSaw Registered Users Posts: 2,221 Major grins
    edited September 23, 2010
    Kronk wrote: »
    I wish I had one thought . ne_nau.gif I am really stumped so far.headscratch.gif

    Think of things made of leather or lace or that have the appearance of leather or lace or things that leather or lace can be made from. I am full of ideas (of course my husband says I am just plain full of it. :D) I am still working on execution.mwink.gif
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    DonRicklinDonRicklin Registered Users Posts: 5,551 Major grins
    edited September 24, 2010
    I finally got a concept I hope I work out and shoot in time! thumb.gif:D

    Don
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    Bell RingerBell Ringer Registered Users Posts: 51 Big grins
    edited September 28, 2010
    Wow, I haven't done this in a while. Glad I came back. These challenges really require those creative juices to crank up. Thanks for the challenge.
    Rudynikon
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited September 30, 2010
    Question for Sean
    Hi Sean,

    Please tell me if the image #2 from my post:
    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1471944#post1471944

    can be accepted, or it will be considered as having a frame.

    Thank you,
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
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    sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    photo-bug wrote: »
    Hi Sean,

    Please tell me if the image #2 from my post:
    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1471944#post1471944

    can be accepted, or it will be considered as having a frame.

    Thank you,

    The image has a natural frame; in my mind a frame that is created after the capture, is ouside of the rules.
    This is fine and would not be disqualified.
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 1, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    The image has a natural frame; in my mind a frame that is created after the capture, is ouside of the rules.
    This is fine and would not be disqualified.

    I thought the same, but just wanted to be sure - Thank you very much :)
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
    TravelwaysPhotos.com ...... Facebook
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    Another question for Sean
    Hi Sean,

    Sorry, but now I have another question/problem...

    After I worked on one of my shots, the exif info shows only the date taken.
    The date when the photo has been modified doesn't appear:

    1030520232_65J3m-XL.png

    Would this be OK?
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
    TravelwaysPhotos.com ...... Facebook
    VegasGreatAttractions.com
    Travelways.com
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    sherstonesherstone Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 2,356 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    photo-bug wrote: »
    Would this be OK?

    Yes nod.gif

    It is the date taken that matters.
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    sherstone wrote: »
    Yes nod.gif

    It is the date taken that matters.

    Thank you - again it's what I thought, but wanted to be sure :D
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
    TravelwaysPhotos.com ...... Facebook
    VegasGreatAttractions.com
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 2, 2010
    Another question for Sean
    Hi Sean I have a last minute question, please:

    It's clear that a Black&White photo will contain blacks, whites and tones of each.

    However, I couldn't find a definition of a monochrome/monotone image.

    - I know that a duotone image can contain black (or white) and 1 color plus their shades.

    Logically speaking, a monotone image should not contain pure black or white, but just
    shades of 1 color - is that right?

    Please clarify this for me.

    Thank you,
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
    TravelwaysPhotos.com ...... Facebook
    VegasGreatAttractions.com
    Travelways.com
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    richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    richtersl wrote: »

    Hi Linda,

    I think I found this one on my researches, but I'm still not clear...

    " It includes all forms of black and white photography..."

    Does it mean that black and white are permitted?

    I learned in school (about 15 years ago - at the photoshop course), about duotone and tritone where
    you can have black or/and white, but...

    In other words, I had to change numerous times my entry, because the carboard I used as a background was black,
    and trying to lighten it, I got all kind of irregulatities, which I had to work hard to remove.
    Finally I arrived to have again a black (or almost) background - not sure what to do...headscratch.gif

    What I'd like to know is: should I leave my background black (or almost - the way it is now), or try harder to change it to a shade of the overall color I used for the main subject?

    Thank you for trying to help :)
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
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    richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    OK. Now I see where you're coming from. I can understand you wanting to clarify that black background. Your subject does seem to have a different color cast from the black, as if you're applying a gold tone to it. If you made it "greyscale" (get rid of the gold color), then the black should be OK. At least according to what I understand from the definition it should be. But Sean will be able to give you a better answer.

    If it's a no-no, then you do have some other fine options from which to choose.
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    richtersl wrote: »
    OK. Now I see where you're coming from. I can understand you wanting to clarify that black background. Your subject does seem to have a different color cast from the black, as if you're applying a gold tone to it. If you made it "greyscale" (get rid of the gold color), then the black should be OK. At least according to what I understand from the definition it should be. But Sean will be able to give you a better answer.

    If it's a no-no, then you do have some other fine options from which to choose.

    Yes, sure if I make it B&W I don't have to worry about.

    But I want it to be colored rolleyes1.gif

    Now, every screen is different, with different calibrations, and I also noticed that there is a slight difference between my smugmug gallery, where I preview first my images and the contest gallery (at least on my screen). This being said, I'm not very sure if the background of my (last mwink.gif) entry is black or a shade of it.

    - The fact that you see it as "a different color cast from the black" makes me happy - but is it? or it's just black?
    ... and if it's black, is it OK, or not? I guess not, and I'll have to re-upload it again with a modified bckgrd., as shown on the CC forum:

    http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1473646#post1473646

    Just want to make sure ne_nau.gif

    I am for sure ashamed that I had to change so many times my entry, but I think it's better to be ashamed
    for changing it than to be ashamed of having a bad entry rolleyes1.gif
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
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    richterslrichtersl Registered Users Posts: 3,322 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    Don't blame you for just wanting to be sure. :D

    While you're waiting for feedback from Sean, have you tried to make the photo monotone via PS just to see how it interprets the color information on the original shot?

    Just for the heck of it, try (my apologies if you already tried this):

    Image > Mode > Grayscale

    Image > Mode > Duotone

    Then from the Type drop down in the Duotone options dialog choose Monotone. Try different shades and see what it does to the background in comparison to the rest of the shot. ne_nau.gif
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    travelwaystravelways Registered Users Posts: 7,854 Major grins
    edited October 3, 2010
    richtersl wrote: »
    Don't blame you for just wanting to be sure. :D

    While you're waiting for feedback from Sean, have you tried to make the photo monotone via PS just to see how it interprets the color information on the original shot?

    Just for the heck of it, try (my apologies if you already tried this):

    Image > Mode > Grayscale

    Image > Mode > Duotone

    Then from the Type drop down in the Duotone options dialog choose Monotone. Try different shades and see what it does to the background in comparison to the rest of the shot. ne_nau.gif

    Linda, I tried something similar: image->adjustments->B&W->tint and then used different adjustment layers to increase the contrast.

    -I'll still try different options, but I don't want to monopolize this thread, so I'll post my results into the CC forum,
    the thread I opened for this contest. Thank you so much :)
    Tatiana - Seeing the world through my camera
    TravelwaysPhotos.com ...... Facebook
    VegasGreatAttractions.com
    Travelways.com
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