The Hybrid Darkroom: Film and Digital

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  • ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 24,127 moderator
    edited April 7, 2011
    jeffreaux2 wrote: »
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    I find that the exposure for film is very forgiving. I use the meter in the Yashica. If for instance I want to expose for a back lit situation I just over expose..."some". ...

    Negative films are indeed forgiving and have a broad exposure latitude.

    Slide/reversal films are much less forgiving. I tend to use a dSLR as an exposure meter for those films. A modern dSLR, especially one with spot metering and if you use a zoom lens to exaggerate the effect, can be invaluable for slide exposures. You can literally pinpoint objects in the scene and choose the appropriate camera settings to match the entire scene.
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    Awesome tips Ziggy, thanks!

    Since 90% of my exposures come out dark, I think I am just going to end up overexposing by 2/3 stops from here on out. rolleyes1.gif
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    schmoo wrote: »
    I just wanted to throw this out there: So far I am much happier with the cheap film and cheap processing/scanning that I did through Walgreens than I am with the pricey pro film and pricey pro lab.

    Exhibit A:
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    Exhibit B:
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    Not sure what it is, or just coincidence. Maybe it's like the difference between shooting RAW and shooting JPG? ne_nau.gif

    Was either roll past the expiration date?
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  • Jane B.Jane B. Registered Users Posts: 373 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    Do any of these cameras that you guys are using take the #675 button battery? I have a Vivitar 35mm film camera from the mid 1970's that uses that button battery for a match needle meter. I have also worn a hearing aid for many years and discovered that the batteries are interchangeable! The main point is that the hearing aid version (which comes in packs of 6) is cheaper per battery. I found out about this back then from a local camera shop owner who was also a friend of my folks. I found it worked well.
  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    DavidTO wrote: »
    Was either roll past the expiration date?

    The first one may have been, but I'm not 100% certain. I believe that was a roll of film I had bought from the Netherlands, but doesn't film have a few years shelf life?

    The second was a fresh roll of Ektar that I had just gotten from Freestyle.
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    There goes that theory!
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    So, I'm making a little progress, I think?

    It's tough going from this to something that looks decent, not using a scanner or the software that comes with.

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    This is my first version:
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    And here's my latest:
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    Neither is right, I know, but I'm getting experience and hopefully I'm gonna lick this whole issue. thumb.gif
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    I can't say I prefer one over the other (I like both) but I can definitely see you've toned down the magenta/orange cast in the latter. Nice!

    Also cool to see what it looks like SOOS (straight out of scan lol3.gif )
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    I'm honing in on this thing....

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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited April 7, 2011
    David, that is one of the advantages of VueScan - it has the data for the various color negative emulsion's orange masks in its database, so that you should not have to deal with color balancing after the fact, so to speak.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 7, 2011
    pathfinder wrote: »
    David, that is one of the advantages of VueScan - it has the data for the various color negative emulsion's orange masks in its database, so that you should not have to deal with color balancing after the fact, so to speak.

    Yah, I know. I downloaded a PS plugin that's supposed to have that, too. Didn't work so well. But I think I'm narrowing in on a workflow that will work.

    But I can definitely see that once you add color into your mix that a scanner becomes more desirable/useful than with black and white.
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  • David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,245 moderator
    edited April 7, 2011
    If I go back to film by the end of the year, I have all you people to blame.

    OTOH, I still have a 2-spool film development tank, trays, tongs, greylabs timer, graduated mixing cylinders, enlarger, easel, etc, etc. All not being used ATM.
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2011
    David_S85 wrote: »
    If I go back to film by the end of the year, I have all you people to blame.

    rolleyes1.gif

    You already have all the equipment, so what's the holdup?
  • jeffreaux2jeffreaux2 Registered Users Posts: 4,762 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2011
    schmoo wrote: »
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    You already have all the equipment, so what's the holdup?

    Maybe he...like me...is waiting for you to spill the beans on which Iphone exposure app I should be downloading.

    Theres way more than two of them at the app store. What's workin' for you?ne_nau.gif
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2011
    jeffreaux2 wrote: »
    Maybe he...like me...is waiting for you to spill the beans on which Iphone exposure app I should be downloading.

    Theres way more than two of them at the app store. What's workin' for you?ne_nau.gif

    We're both using Expositor, which is an exposure table, and Pocket Light Meter.
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 8, 2011
    jeffreaux2 wrote: »
    Maybe he...like me...is waiting for you to spill the beans on which Iphone exposure app I should be downloading.

    Theres way more than two of them at the app store. What's workin' for you?ne_nau.gif

    D'oh! Sorry, I should have mentioned that before. If you were being subtle about it in an earlier post, that went right over my head! :D
  • jeffreaux2jeffreaux2 Registered Users Posts: 4,762 Major grins
    edited April 9, 2011
    schmoo wrote: »
    D'oh! Sorry, I should have mentioned that before. If you were being subtle about it in an earlier post, that went right over my head! :D


    Ha Ha...it skated by your inner blonde!!!rolleyes1.gif


    J/K.....
    .....subtle doesnt work so well in forums!ne_nau.gif
  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2011
    Got another roll of film done this weekend. Unfortunately I am still having light leak issues. At first I thought, "How is that possible, because I taped the hell outta this thing!"

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    Apparently the leak isn't coming from any of the body seams. Guess that leaves the shutter.

    I didn't realize it was so hard to have a simple 35mm film point-and-shoot. :bash

    OTOH, shots like this are the reason why I keep fighting the fight. Maybe I just need to never take the FED outdoors!

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  • jeffreaux2jeffreaux2 Registered Users Posts: 4,762 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2011
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 10, 2011
    On the other hand.

    FED is her camera's brand name.

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  • jeffreaux2jeffreaux2 Registered Users Posts: 4,762 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2011
    DavidTO wrote: »
    On the other hand.

    FED is her camera's brand name.

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    I think she was trying to make me pay for the blonde joke.rolleyes1.gif

    I got the apps. I need to get the black box out and do some shootin'!
  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 11, 2011
    jeffreaux2 wrote: »
    I think she was trying to make me pay for the blonde joke.rolleyes1.gif

    I got the apps. I need to get the black box out and do some shootin'!

    lol3.gif No worries, physically I'm so far from blonde but I am just about the most discombobulated person I know.

    It's been a very long two weeks since I dropped my Rollei off for the CLA. When I think about it I get a physical pain in my stomach, I miss it so much. No normal person should feel this way about a freaking camera, right? rolleyes1.gif

    Can't wait to see more shots from your Yashica!
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 16, 2011
    I'm getting much faster at this, and very nearly comfortable, I might say!


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  • BradfordBennBradfordBenn Registered Users Posts: 2,506 Major grins
    edited April 16, 2011
    You may be a photographer when the first thing you notice is where is David in these shots he is taking, and forget to look at the striking pictures he is presenting.

    Nice shots.
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  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 17, 2011
    You may be a photographer when the first thing you notice is where is David in these shots he is taking, and forget to look at the striking pictures he is presenting.

    Nice shots.
    Thanks, Brad! wings.gif
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 17, 2011
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 18, 2011
    schmoo wrote: »
    These are Perfekt!

    Thanks, Schmoo! :davidto
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  • schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited April 28, 2011
    So I tried out Lomography's new Lomo Lab, which was supposed to be this brand-new film developing and scanning service. You order online, they ship you envelopes, you mail it back and they send you an email with your scans.

    I sent off two rolls of film and received notification of the first this morning. They look great!

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    Now, the question is: WTF happened to this service on their website? I can't find evidence that it ever existed anymore, and it's been less than a month. Maybe I lost my Google-fu, but maybe it already tanked. headscratch.gif

    Also, I thought I was going to receive my physical negatives in the mail, but they haven't mentioned it. Their customer service is dismal, but I'll ask and we'll see. I'm also missing the second roll that I mailed in.

    I wouldn't really recommend this service, but what else is a girl gonna do while she's waiting for Amazon to deliver her scanner?

    Harumph.
  • DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited April 28, 2011
    Plus the scanner will have a hard time getting the sprocket holes.
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