Rant - it's not "copyrite"

mercphoto

Ranting does a body good.

Its "copyright" people, not "copyrite". A "right" is a legal privelege, whereas a "rite" is a ritual.

Can't tell you how many times I see this done incorrectly!

There, I feel better now.

DonRicklin

Ditto for "copywrite"!

Don

Art Scott

mercphoto wrote: »

Ranting does a body good.

Its "copyright" people, not "copyrite". A "right" is a legal privelege, whereas a "rite" is a ritual.

Can't tell you how many times I see this done incorrectly!

There, I feel better now.

I have also seen it as write and wright....on images.....nothing stands out like seeing copywright on an image...as a matter of fact I saw a Pirnt for sale that had that on it for a copywright statement..funny as hell.....

WillCAD

Yea! Sleping erors aer definately the wurst! Just awefule! I ca'nt understand Y some peple arnt abel to spel simple werds co-rectly. Un-baleivable!

My personal peeve is the old "identical words" problem.

Their-there-they're

To-too-two

No-know

Knew-new

Border-boarder

Ketchup-catsup. Oh, wait... never mind that last one.

And then there is the reliable old stand-by - "would of, should of, could of."

This stuff IS supposed to be taught in high school, isn't it? Supposably.

NOTE: These peeves only apply to those from English-speaking nations. Those for whom English is a second (or third, or more) language do not upset me when they make common grammatical or spelling mistakes. English is a crazy, difficult, confusing language that makes little sense to those who grow up learning a more organized tongue.

divamum

YES! YES! YES!

It is also lens FLARE (a blaze of light, or something which makes a certain flash/blaze of light) vs FLAIR (a particular sense of stylishness and originality)

To the "English 2nd language" dispensation (absolutely - and I would also point out that a LOT more people make concerted efforts to speak/write in English than most native-English speakers do to attempt other languages!), I would also add the corollary that it's obvious when somebody who clearly writes and spells well has made a typo online in "colloquial" exchanges. In official/promotional materials? It'd better be perfect, or it reflects very badly on the author. In casual correspondence? The occasional "oops" isn't as big a deal - I suspect we've all done that occasionally. (At which point it's appropriate to say thank goodness for forumboard software like dgrin's which lets you edit silently for the first few minutes after you've posted, so those of us who are good writers but crappy proof-readers can clean up behind ourselves!!!!)

Hikin' Mike

One of my favorites, "Can you give me some imput about..."

Molotov Everything

How about people who pronounce the word supposedly as 'supposably?' Or saying something 'peaked' your interest instead of piqued.

Art Scott

Another I see a lot...is which and witch...........I love it when the minister in the
family is asking for directions and asks witch way do I go from there..........

Angelo

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dlplumer

Or 'lose' spelled as 'loose' :bash

Hikin' Mike

dlplumer wrote: »

Or 'lose' spelled as 'loose' :bash

Guilty.

DonRicklin

Irregardless of all the above when does one use it's vis a vis its?

Don

divamum

Irregardless of all the above when does one use it's vis a vis its?

Good catch! I'll give our esteemed colleague the "Writing too fast and we can't edit our own headers" benefit of the doubt on that one given the content of the thread

Have we ranted about sight/site/cite yet? It's another of my pet peeves.

And, of course, the ever-popular "alot". No... just NO. It's either two words (meaning a large quantity) or two L's (meaning to allocate). All other variants are simply WRONG.

Btw, for us grammar/spelling "fascists" (since when did it become politically incorrect to write and speak properly?!), @grammarhulk @englishwhirled and @grammarmonkeys on twitter are wonderful. You want to hear rants? Hilarious

digismile

And my favorite is irregardless ... Should be regardless or irrespective ...

Angelo

divamum wrote: »

Good catch! I'll give our esteemed colleague the "Writing too fast and we can't edit our own headers" benefit of the doubt on that one given the content of the thread

But I can and did! Good catch!





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Angelo

and while we're at it...

"impacted" is NOT a verb


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Glort

One that not so many here would ever experience but drives me nuts!

American Spelling and date format on computer programs!!!

Oh yeah, you can set it to other languages, if the program allows it, but half the time things like MS word etc will change them bloody selves back.
Every time you spell a word correctly like colour or centre or specialise, it tells you its wrong. Rubbish!
A mate of mine was showing me an ad he put in the paper last night and it was all in US spelling which was a HUGE mistake on the papers part. They are going to hear about that one.

And what the hell is with that date format you use??? Month, day year??? WTF???
I look at dates that I may not be sure what format they are written in such as online etc and if the first 2 numbers are 12 or lower, a person doesn't know if they are talking about the 2nd of October or the 10th of Feb!
Year, month day would make sense or as we do it, day month year but who the hell thought putting the month first made any sense whatsoever?

W.W. Webster

Image files may be raw, but never RAW, because the letters r-a-w don't stand for anything!

And while I'm at it -

richy wrote: »

They steal our damn language then bugger it up!

The expression "American English" is the ultimate oxymoron!

DonRicklin

And in America "Don't bug me" is a relatively innocent remark. Unless you're talking about US agency doings.....

Don

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WillCAD

Angelo wrote: »

and while we're at it...

"impacted" is NOT a verb


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Actually, it IS the past tense of an intransitive verb, at least according to Dictionary.com, the Mirriam-Webster Online Dictionary, and the Oxford English Dictionary.

richy wrote: »

They steal our damn language then bugger it up! At least the anzacs have the decency to spell words correctly. I have no concept as to why they need to write dates differently, MS Access used to be a massive PITA to code in for that reason (for a euro). However, this is from the country that has HOW? many different gallons (wet, dry & imperial). Somebody told me that the US also briefly changed to liters then back again?

Nope, we didn't steal the English language. The United States of America began life as a group of 13 colonies of the British Empire, which broke away from the Empire (by defeating the British Army in a war which lasted from 1775-1783). As such, we inherited the English language honestly, from our forefathers, just as you inherited it from yours.

As to "buggering up" the language, look who's talking! A significant number of English words have roots in Latin, Greek, and French, because the English adopted and modified them (usually through mispronunciation) over the course of English history.

I can't explain the date thing. It makes no sense to me. I can only surmise that it has to do with the fact that the month is usually said first when spoken, as in "February 2nd". Thus, when people wrote the date, they typically wrote "February 2" or "Feb 2", then added the year to it as an afterthought, separated by a comma, as in "October 19, 1781". Later, the practice of substituting numbers for the months came about, but the older format was retained, so "October 19" became "10-19" or "10/19", and the longer form "October 19, 1781" became "10-19-81" or "10/19/81". Or, at least, that is my supposition.

This much I know - Using four digits for the year in the shortened, numeric date form was fairly rare until the late 20th Century, when concern over the Y2K computer problem forced more people to realize the folly of using only 2 digits. Thus, "10/19/81" became "10/19/1781". But the Y2K problem did finally begin to show the ridiculousness of our date format, and it is more common today to see a derivation of the European format used, as in "1781-10-19" or "1781/10/19" or (less commonly) "1781.10.19", because this format allows computer files to be sorted chronologically if the file name includes the date. I personally adopted this date format in 1998 and have continued to use it in almost all instances, even when dating signed legal documents.

The litre thing is an odd one, though. In the mid-1970s, the Carter Administration put forth an effort to begin a long-term conversion of US industry and common usage to the Metric System. During that time, one of the earliest adopters was the soft-drink industry; instead of quart or gallon bottles of soft drinks (or soda pop, or fizzy water, as it is sometimes called), the most commonly found large bottle is now 2 litres. However, other industries failed to follow suit, and the initiative was not carried on by subsequent administrations. Most modern products, however, do have metric quantity translations listed in parentheses behind the old English measurements, so while we still have 1-gallon jugs of milk in the store, the jug is labeled "1 gallon (3.78L)" or "1 gallon (3785ml)" or something similar.

WillCAD

I have another one - the use of the letter K in a date.

During the first decade of the 21st century, when there were two zeros in the year, it became common to abbreviate (either through laziness or through a sense of style) using a K, which commonly stands for "thousands". Thus, 2000 became 2K, and 2001 became 2K1.

However, we have now passed into the double-digit year range, and the K is no longer an abbreviation, but simply an affectation. The year 2011 is still sometimes expressed as 2K11, which infuriates me - you're not saving even a single character! Why not hit the zero key, or draw a bloody oval, and make it 2011 instead of 2K11?! It makes no sense, no sense at all!

Malte

DonRicklin wrote: »

Irregardless of all the above when does one use it's vis a vis its?

Don

digismile wrote: »

And my favorite is irregardless ... Should be regardless or irrespective ...

I believa an "Oh snap!" is in order.

Malte

Malte

How about aksing somebody a question?

Malte

DonRicklin

Malte wrote: »

I believe an "Oh snap!" is in order.

Malte

Hardly, from me! Mine was deliberately added as tongue in cheek!

Do we have a 'tongue in cheek' emoticon????

Don

divamum

I'm the worst of both worlds, I think, in that my spelling... varies between UK to US. I write colour, but labor. Theatre, but center. Oy! That's what comes of dividing one's life between places - you become "bilingual" (yet I can never remember which country is which half the time because they both seem so "right" to me!). I also think of cold temps in C and warm temps in F, simply because of where I've been exposed to each...

I've also often wondered WHY the daft American way of writing dates. To me it makes sense to go from smallest-to-largets unit (day/month/year), or reverse it to year/month/day, but the US way? Completely illogical.

Hmmm. No comment

ETA: Axksing questions. DRIVES ME NUTS!! I think this is a more prevalent speech pattern in some areas than others, but sheesh - infuriating.

I this thread.

DonRicklin

divamum wrote: »

I'm the worst of both worlds, I think, in that my spelling... varies between UK to US. I write colour, but labor. Theatre, but center. Oy! That's what comes of dividing one's life between places - you become b. I think of cold temps in C and warm temps in F, simply because of where I've been exposed to each...

I've also often wondered WHY the daft American way of writing dates. To me it makes sense to go from smallest-to-largets unit (day/month/year), or reverse it to year/month/day, but the US way? Completely illogical.

Hmmm. No comment

I believe this may come from originally saying i.e. July 4, 2011 transferring to all numbers 7/4/11

dunno

EVen more confusing, internationally, would be the switches between commas and period in dates and currencies amounts.... I haven't a clues to anything other than the US versions.



Don

DonRicklin

Oh and a remark from my wife just now reminds me of the use of good when one means 'well' As in "You are doing good, lately" for how well I had just trimmed my beard!

Don

divamum

DonRicklin wrote: »

Oh and a remark from my wife just now reminds me of the use of good when one means 'well' As in "You are doing good, lately" for how well I had just trimmed my beard!
Don

Same problem with less and few.

Another one: swapping object and subject pronouns incorrectly eg it's "He told Sally and me" not "He told Sally and I", which I hear around me all the time.

dlplumer

"picture" not "pitcher" when referring to what we do here on dgrin

Angelo

WillCAD wrote: »

Actually, it IS the past tense of an intransitive verb, at least according to Dictionary.com, the Mirriam-Webster Online Dictionary, and the Oxford English Dictionary.

"Impacted" is an adjective http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/impacted

Your statement is true when used with an object. My point was, the use as a verb in a statement such as "The building fire impacted me" would be incorrect.

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BradfordBenn

There are some made up words that I like, such as automagically instead of automatically if it is something impressive and unique. And cool is spelled cool, not kewl. It is not funny. Now Klass is different than Class, one is sarcastic; much like crab meat with a "k".

I might have ranted about it on my personal web site (or blog when too lazy to write all that out) http://www.bradfordbenn.com/2011/01/watching-a-language-change/