Smart Gallery rules limit

DMatt

Hello!
I want to create smart gallery for friends. I like idea that photos are automatically sorted in those gallerys whenever I ad some with those keywords to Smugmug.

I create it and then set rules. Each rule is name of one member of that family (keyword). And when there are more than 5 family members or I want to add as keyword their city of living, I'm on the limit. Any idea how to do this?

Gloriousnse

I would suggest if it's a problem then add a custom keyword that only relates to the gallery you want to create, and doesn't relate to being found by searches or anything else.

Lets say you wanted to create an album for the Smith family in Seattle, then tag all photo's of them with something like "smithfamilyseattle" and you only have to search on one term instead of "john smith" and "carla smith" and "tommy smith" and "katie smith" and "seattle".

It might be a pain to add that to existing images, but remembering to add that to photo's when you add them isn't hard providing you use the same format.

Ref adding the new tag to the existing ones you should also be able to set up a temporary smart gallery - searching on "smith" and then use the rules at the top to bulk-tag all the correct images you want with that tag.

or I want to add as keyword their city of living

Trouble is that would include any photo's you tagged with that city name, whether there were family members in the shot or not?

DMatt

It's a good suggestion, tnx. Altho, a lot of work for pictures already in gallery. I have all photos keyworded with persons names. Biggest problem is "only" 5 rules if family has more members. Even if I don't use city.

SamirD

Can you make Smart Galleries of Smart Galleries?

rainforest1155

SamirD wrote: »

Can you make Smart Galleries of Smart Galleries?

Seems to work just fine for me.

SamirD

DMatt wrote: »

Any idea how to do this?

SamirD wrote: »

Can you make Smart Galleries of Smart Galleries?

rainforest1155 wrote: »

Seems to work just fine for me.

So using this idea of smart galleries within smart galleries, you can add keywords to the limit on one smart gallery and then use another one to narrow it down further. Unless I'm missing something and narrowing isn't the issue.

rainforest1155

Samir, I didn't try any keyword rules. All I tried was a gallery rule on the second smart gallery to include all photos from that first smart gallery. Sorry if I missed the point of the thread as I just replied to your post.

So I tested further and created a smart gallery that had two rules - one gallery rule taking photos from another smart gallery and another rule for just one keyword. Works just fine as well. The resulting smart gallery only displayed photos from the first smart gallery that had the keyword I defined in the keyword rule. Of course, you need to toggle the option to match all rules.

action-images

I just started using the smart gallery and hit the 5 rule limit right away. Are there plans to remove this limit? The multidimensional aspect of correct keyword tagging directly invalidates the 5 rule limit, as mentioned in the post above. Smugmug even realizes this when using the keyword selection, and then the further refinement of the selection by adding (+) or removing (-) other keywords included in the selected pictures. In my quick test there can be more than a chain of 5 keywords when selecting pictures that way, which is like a smart gallery on the fly. It would be nice if that feature was extended to smart galleries with more permanence. Thanks. (ps. the smart gallery of smart galleries would hit the same 5 limit so that isn't the right approach).

synature

In addition to removing the 5 rule limit, how about adding some logic, such as being able to say "Seattle" or "Olympia"?

I want to get things out of three galleries that have the keyword "public". This is impossible within the structure now present: "Any" will not work because it will ignore the "public" keyword and simply grab everything from all the galleries. "All" doesn't work because none of the images are in all three galleries.

I will use the workaround of an intermediate smart gallery, but now I've got yet another unlisted gallery.

rainforest1155

synature wrote: »

In addition to removing the 5 rule limit, how about adding some logic, such as being able to say "Seattle" or "Olympia"?

I want to get things out of three galleries that have the keyword "public". This is impossible within the structure now present: "Any" will not work because it will ignore the "public" keyword and simply grab everything from all the galleries. "All" doesn't work because none of the images are in all three galleries.

I will use the workaround of an intermediate smart gallery, but now I've got yet another unlisted gallery.

You could try it the other way around by keywording all the photos you don't want to be included with something like "private". That should enable you to set up these rules
include - seattle
include - olympia
exclude - private
match rule: any

The system internally generates 2 separate sets - one for include and one for exclude rules and then combines both into the smart gallery.

To see if the above works for you, I suggest you try it with a smaller set of photos first.

In regards for feature suggestions, you could go to the SmugMug feedback pages and add them there.

DesptachesGallery

Good to know - smart galleries on smart galleries - could be useful for us. Thanks fellow SM'rs

TimLind53

I've run into an issue with the Smart Gallery image limit when creating a Smart Gallery for my sons. I have more than 1,000 images and video clips for each of them.
If the limit can not be increased can you at least provide Boolean Logic to the rules? That way I could create a Smart Gallery by decades. For a Child1 1980s gallery I could use a keyword of "Child1NameKeyword" AND keyword GE "1980" and LE "1989".
Or, do you have a better way of doing this?

Allen

I had to split all 1000 photos KW smart galleries into multiple galleries.

example - sandpipers totaled 4482. Did it by years and had to keep each group below 1000.

sandpipers_2008_and_earlier ----- 619
sandpipers_2009 --------------------- 895
sandpipers_2010 --------------------- 699
sandpipers_2011 ---------------------- 695
sandpipers_2012_14----------------- 892
sandpipers_2015_up ---------------- 682 4482

See yardbirds at bottom of list.
https://www.photosbyat.com/keyword