Now you've got my interest peaked... Secret weapon?
And birdman, if that Nikon-D70 image was supposed to turn me off, it achieved just the opposite. I wonder if I can actually rig up the hotshoe to look like a stormtrooper...
Please Mugsy, whatever you do, just wait 7 days. Nikon's got something up their sleeve. Something you will love if you're used to the D100.
Try the 20D, see if it can fit you. Features that were important to me I found inferior by Nikon's standards. Your decision might vary. But please, just wait a week or so before you decide.
Now you've got my interest peaked... Secret weapon?
And birdman, if that Nikon-D70 image was supposed to turn me off, it achieved just the opposite. I wonder if I can actually rig up the hotshoe to look like a stormtrooper...
It looks like the D200 is finally going ot be released some time next month. It will probably be 12 MP and 5 FPS. The command dial on the camera on the shots I've seen has a setting for continuous-high (probably at 12 MP) and continuous-low (probably at 6MP for more FPS). Don't have a clue if the increased FPS will also have the 2X magnification factor as with the D2X.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Hmm, they seem to want me to log in, even though I can navigate the whole forum without logging in, and don't see much about the D200...
Andrew and Harry, the D200 is what I'm talking about, and it's supposed to be announced next week, then available before christmas.
The group of people that believe (or "know") that 12 megapixels and high speed crop mode are "true" specs also seem to believe that the camera will be $2,500 or so. Yikes! Apparently though, the Ch and Cl modes, some believe, simply mean that (like with the F6) you can simply set how fast the camera fires, at 3 FPS or 5 FPS for example, but not necessarily in a "cropped" mode...
However on the other hand, the ones who say it does not have high speed crop mode, and has only a 10.4 megapixel sensor, believe that the D200 is only going to cost $1,750. There are of course a few other differences that would indicate a price difference, including which autofocus motor they're using and whether or not it's a pro (magnesium, weather sealed) body.
Don't be upset with me but I'm really hoping it's the lesser of the two, so I can afford it! To me 10.4 MP and 5 FPS would be a dream, all other features relatively irrelevant. (except the viewfinder which both camps rumor to be bright and excellent despite the popup flash...)
It will definitely make the 20D look like a toy, catch the eye of one or two 5D potentials, and maybe even give the 20D's replacement (spring 2006?) a run for it's money. We shall see next week, though!
I was wondering why you all overwhelmingly use Canon equiptment. I am about to buy a new DSLR and I have used the Nikon D100 extensively with great joy and satisfaction. I am considering a D70s (all my budget will permit, just now) but I am willing to reconsider and buy a Canon. I've got a few Nikon f-mount lenses for a film body, but as I shoot mostly medium format for my art and portraiture I am happy to begin investing in a DSLR system for the future. I really like the Nikon feel and have been happy with the quality. Any compelling reasons to switch to Canon , and can anybody suggest a body similar to the D100 or D70? Thanks.
I can't give you a compelling reason why I use Cannon, just personal preference but I may be able to help with the budget. Check out some of the deals on E-bay. There is brand new, still in the box, equipment being offered for a VERY good price.
WOW!!! I was included in a list by Andy! I'm truly blessed!!! :buttkiss
Actually, getting back to the topic @ hand...
I choose Nikon because I can take glass that was ground 20-30 years ago and still mount it to my digital body. But, you will find that there is not that much old/fast manual Nikon glass out there. Many of them are still in use by film shooters, and are quite hard to come by.
re: the Canon/Nikon/ect wars... do you prefer a Chevy... Ford... European or Japanese autos. This is the same with cameras. Everyone has their personal preferences. Also, what do you prefer to shoot? From what I've read/heard/experienced, different brands are more (or less) suited to certain events. But I guess with the right funding, any camera can shoot any event if setup properly with lenses, flashes, ect...
So, it's all a matter of your preference. BTW, I just obtained a used D100, with the MB-D100 portrait shutter that holds 2 batteries, for $500. If you're up for a used body, they're out there to be had. Great to have a backup. Ran into a small delima with my D70 that required it to visit El Segundo for warranty service. DT's after about 4 days without!!!
And, if you're thinking about a used D100 (for example), you can check HERE, HERE or HERE.
Let us know what you decide to get... and good luck!!!
And then of course, there's us, who believe there exist other brands than either C or N. Happy Olympus user here, although I feel I'd be happy with any of the current offerings of Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, Fuji, etc. It's just a thing of working with what you have, and I still feel I am the most limiting factor in my setup...
The D200 sounds right up my alley, though I sure couldn't afford the higher priced version. The 1750 version, if it came with glass, could work. If all else fails, I think Ill go after a D70s. Thanks for the input, everyone.
And count me in as a member of the "fans of Nikon club"
I've had a few Nikon film bodies(started with a Nikkormat FT in 1976!), I had one of the first D70 bodies (it died but was promptly replaced under warranty), I now have a D70s and love it, looking forward to the D200.
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And then of course, there's us, who believe there exist other brands than either C or N. Happy Olympus user here, although I feel I'd be happy with any of the current offerings of Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Pentax, Fuji, etc. It's just a thing of working with what you have, and I still feel I am the most limiting factor in my setup...
Some day when I'm a big famous pro ( ) I'd love to buy a camera from ALL the systems. Olympus, Pentax, Sigma, Fuji, Minolta, (Kodak? Sony?) They all have unique characteristics that I'd love to experience...
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Wow, Nikon is finally catching up to Canon huh? Time for the 40D.
I'm sure Canon has at least 3 more models ready to be released. That's one of the reasons I like Nikon. I'm saving lots of $ by not upgrading my camera every 6 months.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
I managed to catch this on the official Nikon site before they realized it and took it down. Not just from the professional look of the above, I'd say it's real.
I'm sure Canon has at least 3 more models ready to be released. That's one of the reasons I like Nikon. I'm saving lots of $ by not upgrading my camera every 6 months.
Yeah, it's always better to have fewer choices with fewer features available, for more money...
Yeah, it's always better to have fewer choices with fewer features available, for more money...
I prefer the slower and more methodical upgrade path of Nikon. Except for the option of full frame I don't see much difference between the two. I personally prefer the handling of Nikons over Canons. I don't see any camera out there that can match the handling of my D2h except for the D2hs.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
I prefer the slower and more methodical upgrade path of Nikon. Except for the option of full frame I don't see much difference between the two.
Slower and more methodical? A better word choice might be plodding and hesitant. And "except for the option of full frame" you don't see much difference between WHICH two? Nikon and Canon in general? Two particular models? What? There are major differences between just about every Canon and every Nikon model, in any case.
Slower and more methodical? A better word choice might be plodding and hesitant. And "except for the option of full frame" you don't see much difference between WHICH two? Nikon and Canon in general? Two particular models? What? There are major differences between just about every Canon and every Nikon model, in any case.
Rick,
I really don't want to get into brand wars here. Both make fine cameras that take good picture. IMHO, opinion Canon has less noise but Nikon has better color and details. IMHO opinion Nikons handle well and their focusing is faster and more accurate than their competitors.
In the end one can't go wrong with either camera or a Pentax, Fuji, Minolta, etc. It all comes down to personal preference. There is no universal "better" camera.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
I'll bet I can post half a dozen pictures,shot with everything from a 35mm SLR...disposable film type......digital P&S..DSLR (of different brands) and fabricated PS image...and nobody can correctly identify all the images with the camera/brand/method used.
I must admit..though. It is sometimes fun to get you Nikonian DSLR lovers going. :uhoh I like ALL of my cameras from Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Pentax, Yashica, and what ever one I'm picking up next.
I really don't want to get into brand wars here. Both make fine cameras that take good picture. IMHO, opinion Canon has less noise but Nikon has better color and details. IMHO opinion Nikons handle well and their focusing is faster and more accurate than their competitors.
In the end one can't go wrong with either camera or a Pentax, Fuji, Minolta, etc. It all comes down to personal preference. There is no universal "better" camera.
Interesting thoughts. I'm especially curious about the "better color/detail" comments. Seems there are many other variables to this image making process other than just the camera (or lens). Assuming you are using Nikkor or Canon (or what ever brand your camera is)...there are so many other things that can/will effect the image quality. Things like low batteries can even effect your image quality (especially if you are using AF). Throw in filters...and change the quality of the image..alter color..details. Also consider your file types. Jpeg/RAW..will also change things. Sensors..play a role. Especially if they are dirty. Then there is the conversion/edeting software you will use. The monitor you / others view things on. If you print...let's not forget the lab or equipment used for this part of the process. Then there is operator experience, techniques, preferences and errors. There can also be lab/outside work errors. Then after all this is done and said...let's not forget something very important. The lighting and shooting conditins. There are so many factors that go into the final image.....to make a blanket statement as we all tend to do..is really kind of BS. Seems we are all keen on our cameras and will defend them to the bitter end. Just imagine if we all spent that wasted time improving our techniques/skills. You know...I've heard guys who shoot Canon with those big long white lenses....... get more cute women.
The best camera? The one I have in my hands at the given time. The only bad one..is one that is broken or not in hand.
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At the end of the day, we all have to bow down before Velvia, so what's the point? I've shot both Canon and Nikon and neither match RVP 50 for color and tone. Of course you can fine tune them to match but that requires photoshop 99% of the time.
It would be unhealthy for any photographer to blindly subscribe to "his" (or her) favorite brand. As a Nikon shooter I can say that I've shot with other brands and I prefer they way Nikon lays out their controls. Take note. I'm not even saying Nikon lays out their controls BETTER than other brands, I'm just saying I prefer Nikon. Obviously guys like John Weller and Jim Natchwey, two of my most favorite photographers, prefer Canon's control layout. To me, this trumps all megapixels, FPS, everything. If you aren't comfortable with a camera, it's just plain unpleasant to shoot with, no matter how high tech it is.
I'll bet I can post half a dozen pictures,shot with everything from a 35mm SLR...disposable film type......digital P&S..DSLR (of different brands) and fabricated PS image...and nobody can correctly identify all the images with the camera/brand/method used.
I must admit..though. It is sometimes fun to get you Nikonian DSLR lovers going. :uhoh I like ALL of my cameras from Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Pentax, Yashica, and what ever one I'm picking up next.
Interesting thoughts. I'm especially curious about the "better color/detail" comments. Seems there are many other variables to this image making process other than just the camera (or lens). Assuming you are using Nikkor or Canon (or what ever brand your camera is)...there are so many other things that can/will effect the image quality. Things like low batteries can even effect your image quality (especially if you are using AF). Throw in filters...and change the quality of the image..alter color..details. Also consider your file types. Jpeg/RAW..will also change things. Sensors..play a role. Especially if they are dirty. Then there is the conversion/edeting software you will use. The monitor you / others view things on. If you print...let's not forget the lab or equipment used for this part of the process. Then there is operator experience, techniques, preferences and errors. There can also be lab/outside work errors. Then after all this is done and said...let's not forget something very important. The lighting and shooting conditins. There are so many factors that go into the final image.....to make a blanket statement as we all tend to do..is really kind of BS. Seems we are all keen on our cameras and will defend them to the bitter end. Just imagine if we all spent that wasted time improving our techniques/skills. You know...I've heard guys who shoot Canon with those big long white lenses....... get more cute women.
The best camera? The one I have in my hands at the given time. The only bad one..is one that is broken or not in hand.
MM
Hey Mike,
What I said was my opinion only and nothing more and it was in response to another post. In the end the differences in quality between any of the DSLRs (not restricted to Canon and Nikon) is very small and in most instances not noticeable unless you are seriously measurabating.
I find that the decisive factor in choosing a camera is subjective. Basically how does it feel in your hand. When I opted for Nikon that was the decisive factor for myself. I knew whatever camera I went with I would get good image quality. I tried out the offerings from Canon and Nikon and the Nikon just "fit" me better.
If I was choosing a system today I would probably be leaning towards the Konica Minolta 7D.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
If I was choosing a system today I would probably be leaning towards the Konica Minolta 7D.
Oh my....that would never fly. That name is much too long...especially if you are going to put it on the front of the camera for the world to see. I'd never buy one of those Konica Minolta's That name is just too long to roll of the tongue. It's not easy to say like "Kodak" <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif" border="0" alt="" >
Didn't mean to single you out Harry. We all end up making a choice based on one or many factors. It just seems too much is made of this brand crap. I use to hang out at that other digital photo site. Way too many Homers and brand bashing. I stopped posting there. I got a kick out of all the folks that had images of their equipment on their photo hosting site....and kind of snicker when I see there "gear list" posted in their signature line. Especially if it's larger than their post. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif" border="0" alt="" > I hide my info on my hosting site. I don't care for anyone to know what camera I'm using. I like to keep my Exif info a secret also. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="" > I even removed the fancy "Canon" strap from my camera and gave it to a Canon Homer. Often times...I've got a camo covering on the lens/body. You have no clue what Im shooting with. I usually have fun with folks that ask what I'm shooting. I usually tell them "BIRDS"
Does anyone actually look at posted photos and worry about what camera they were taken with? Sure..some Exif info is very helpful..but who cares what the brand name is on the body?
Oh my....that would never fly. That name is much too long...especially if you are going to put it on the front of the camera for the world to see. I'd never buy one of those Konica Minolta's That name is just too long to roll of the tongue. It's not easy to say like "Kodak" <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif" border="0" alt="" >
Didn't mean to single you out Harry. We all end up making a choice based on one or many factors. It just seems too much is made of this brand crap. I use to hang out at that other digital photo site. Way too many Homers and brand bashing. I stopped posting there. I got a kick out of all the folks that had images of their equipment on their photo hosting site....and kind of snicker when I see there "gear list" posted in their signature line. Especially if it's larger than their post. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif" border="0" alt="" > I hide my info on my hosting site. I don't care for anyone to know what camera I'm using. I like to keep my Exif info a secret also. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="" > I even removed the fancy "Canon" strap from my camera and gave it to a Canon Homer. Often times...I've got a camo covering on the lens/body. You have no clue what Im shooting with. I usually have fun with folks that ask what I'm shooting. I usually tell them "BIRDS"
Does anyone actually look at posted photos and worry about what camera they were taken with? Sure..some Exif info is very helpful..but who cares what the brand name is on the body?
<runs off to role some film> :uhoh
MM
Hey Mike,
I agree with ya. You won't find me knocking any brand. I will respond when I see one getting knocked though. I see great stuff posted by folks using every camera brand.
Harry http://behret.smugmug.com/NANPA member How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
I agree with ya. You won't find me knocking any brand. I will respond when I see one getting knocked though. I see great stuff posted by folks using every camera brand.
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edited October 30, 2005
You're not a man until you make the camera yourself!
In jest. But seriously, if you're into Holga's, try making a pinhole! They're loads of fun...
Digital holga-ization is detrimental to your eternal soul...
I've been playing with pinholes... A fine thing. What I really want to do is rig my Holga up with a real shutter, but its beyond my knowledge at this point. I'm trying to rig up a polaroid back for the thing right now.
Canon vs Nikon
It would appear that Nikon kit photographers are in a distinct minority in the digital age. I read an article in Amateur Photographer from the UK many years ago where they took a Nikon user and a Canon user and had them switch kit for one month. At the end of the month, they were told they could switch back. Surprise, surprise, for neither switched. Sure Canon is cheaper, those plastic zooms let in sand in the Arabian desert for sure, my Nikon lens never had any sand inside the barrel for sure, and the fast focus and uzoom and IS all count. I have shot thousands of slides with Matrix Metering and they are all spot on. Isn't that what it's all about, getting the shot? Canon makes arguably the best glass, but you pay big time for it. Who can afford this? Nikon makes good glass at a reasonable price, as well as expensive good glass that will rival Canon. Canon makes $100 glass. Nikon does too. Nikon is playing catch-up to Canon in the digital game with price, features, megapixels, multipy factor, and build. Looks like its a stand-off to me. Switch? What for? Time is on my side.
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And birdman, if that Nikon-D70 image was supposed to turn me off, it achieved just the opposite. I wonder if I can actually rig up the hotshoe to look like a stormtrooper...
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It looks like the D200 is finally going ot be released some time next month. It will probably be 12 MP and 5 FPS. The command dial on the camera on the shots I've seen has a setting for continuous-high (probably at 12 MP) and continuous-low (probably at 6MP for more FPS). Don't have a clue if the increased FPS will also have the 2X magnification factor as with the D2X.
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Andrew and Harry, the D200 is what I'm talking about, and it's supposed to be announced next week, then available before christmas.
The group of people that believe (or "know") that 12 megapixels and high speed crop mode are "true" specs also seem to believe that the camera will be $2,500 or so. Yikes! Apparently though, the Ch and Cl modes, some believe, simply mean that (like with the F6) you can simply set how fast the camera fires, at 3 FPS or 5 FPS for example, but not necessarily in a "cropped" mode...
However on the other hand, the ones who say it does not have high speed crop mode, and has only a 10.4 megapixel sensor, believe that the D200 is only going to cost $1,750. There are of course a few other differences that would indicate a price difference, including which autofocus motor they're using and whether or not it's a pro (magnesium, weather sealed) body.
Don't be upset with me but I'm really hoping it's the lesser of the two, so I can afford it! To me 10.4 MP and 5 FPS would be a dream, all other features relatively irrelevant. (except the viewfinder which both camps rumor to be bright and excellent despite the popup flash...)
It will definitely make the 20D look like a toy, catch the eye of one or two 5D potentials, and maybe even give the 20D's replacement (spring 2006?) a run for it's money. We shall see next week, though!
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Actually, getting back to the topic @ hand...
I choose Nikon because I can take glass that was ground 20-30 years ago and still mount it to my digital body. But, you will find that there is not that much old/fast manual Nikon glass out there. Many of them are still in use by film shooters, and are quite hard to come by.
re: the Canon/Nikon/ect wars... do you prefer a Chevy... Ford... European or Japanese autos. This is the same with cameras. Everyone has their personal preferences. Also, what do you prefer to shoot? From what I've read/heard/experienced, different brands are more (or less) suited to certain events. But I guess with the right funding, any camera can shoot any event if setup properly with lenses, flashes, ect...
So, it's all a matter of your preference. BTW, I just obtained a used D100, with the MB-D100 portrait shutter that holds 2 batteries, for $500. If you're up for a used body, they're out there to be had. Great to have a backup. Ran into a small delima with my D70 that required it to visit El Segundo for warranty service. DT's after about 4 days without!!!
And, if you're thinking about a used D100 (for example), you can check HERE, HERE or HERE.
Let us know what you decide to get... and good luck!!!
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I've had a few Nikon film bodies(started with a Nikkormat FT in 1976!), I had one of the first D70 bodies (it died but was promptly replaced under warranty), I now have a D70s and love it, looking forward to the D200.
example of my fun with Nikon
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Wow, Nikon is finally catching up to Canon huh? Time for the 40D.
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Oh, and...another Nikon lover here.
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I prefer the slower and more methodical upgrade path of Nikon. Except for the option of full frame I don't see much difference between the two. I personally prefer the handling of Nikons over Canons. I don't see any camera out there that can match the handling of my D2h except for the D2hs.
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
I really don't want to get into brand wars here. Both make fine cameras that take good picture. IMHO, opinion Canon has less noise but Nikon has better color and details. IMHO opinion Nikons handle well and their focusing is faster and more accurate than their competitors.
In the end one can't go wrong with either camera or a Pentax, Fuji, Minolta, etc. It all comes down to personal preference. There is no universal "better" camera.
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Homers....
I'll bet I can post half a dozen pictures,shot with everything from a 35mm SLR...disposable film type......digital P&S..DSLR (of different brands) and fabricated PS image...and nobody can correctly identify all the images with the camera/brand/method used.
I must admit..though. It is sometimes fun to get you Nikonian DSLR lovers going. :uhoh
Interesting thoughts. I'm especially curious about the "better color/detail" comments. Seems there are many other variables to this image making process other than just the camera (or lens). Assuming you are using Nikkor or Canon (or what ever brand your camera is)...there are so many other things that can/will effect the image quality. Things like low batteries can even effect your image quality (especially if you are using AF). Throw in filters...and change the quality of the image..alter color..details. Also consider your file types. Jpeg/RAW..will also change things. Sensors..play a role. Especially if they are dirty.
The best camera?
MM
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It would be unhealthy for any photographer to blindly subscribe to "his" (or her) favorite brand. As a Nikon shooter I can say that I've shot with other brands and I prefer they way Nikon lays out their controls. Take note. I'm not even saying Nikon lays out their controls BETTER than other brands, I'm just saying I prefer Nikon. Obviously guys like John Weller and Jim Natchwey, two of my most favorite photographers, prefer Canon's control layout. To me, this trumps all megapixels, FPS, everything. If you aren't comfortable with a camera, it's just plain unpleasant to shoot with, no matter how high tech it is.
That is my opinon.
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What I said was my opinion only and nothing more and it was in response to another post. In the end the differences in quality between any of the DSLRs (not restricted to Canon and Nikon) is very small and in most instances not noticeable unless you are seriously measurabating.
I find that the decisive factor in choosing a camera is subjective. Basically how does it feel in your hand. When I opted for Nikon that was the decisive factor for myself. I knew whatever camera I went with I would get good image quality. I tried out the offerings from Canon and Nikon and the Nikon just "fit" me better.
If I was choosing a system today I would probably be leaning towards the Konica Minolta 7D.
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Didn't mean to single you out Harry. We all end up making a choice based on one or many factors. It just seems too much is made of this brand crap. I use to hang out at that other digital photo site. Way too many Homers and brand bashing. I stopped posting there. I got a kick out of all the folks that had images of their equipment on their photo hosting site....and kind of snicker when I see there "gear list" posted in their signature line. Especially if it's larger than their post. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/rolleyes1.gif" border="0" alt="" > I hide my info on my hosting site. I don't care for anyone to know what camera I'm using. I like to keep my Exif info a secret also. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="" > I even removed the fancy "Canon" strap from my camera and gave it to a Canon Homer. Often times...I've got a camo covering on the lens/body. You have no clue what Im shooting with. I usually have fun with folks that ask what I'm shooting. I usually tell them "BIRDS"
Does anyone actually look at posted photos and worry about what camera they were taken with? Sure..some Exif info is very helpful..but who cares what the brand name is on the body?
<runs off to roll some film> :uhoh
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I agree with ya. You won't find me knocking any brand. I will respond when I see one getting knocked though. I see great stuff posted by folks using every camera brand.
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How many photographers does it take to change a light bulb? 50. One to change the bulb, and forty-nine to say, "I could have done that better!"
Fotografía y Diseño
Photography & Design
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or this . . .
Nikon D70s + Photoshop "Holga Action"
Available free from Adobe Studio Exchange
Maybe not a real Holga but similar look and feel.
My Holga gallery is Here and an old dgrin holga thread is here.
I knew, of course, that trees and plants had roots, stems, bark, branches and foliage that reached up toward the light. But I was coming to realize that the real magician was light itself.
Edward Steichen
In jest. But seriously, if you're into Holga's, try making a pinhole! They're loads of fun...
-Matt-
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I've been playing with pinholes... A fine thing. What I really want to do is rig my Holga up with a real shutter, but its beyond my knowledge at this point. I'm trying to rig up a polaroid back for the thing right now.
Fotografía y Diseño
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It would appear that Nikon kit photographers are in a distinct minority in the digital age. I read an article in Amateur Photographer from the UK many years ago where they took a Nikon user and a Canon user and had them switch kit for one month. At the end of the month, they were told they could switch back. Surprise, surprise, for neither switched. Sure Canon is cheaper, those plastic zooms let in sand in the Arabian desert for sure, my Nikon lens never had any sand inside the barrel for sure, and the fast focus and uzoom and IS all count. I have shot thousands of slides with Matrix Metering and they are all spot on. Isn't that what it's all about, getting the shot? Canon makes arguably the best glass, but you pay big time for it. Who can afford this? Nikon makes good glass at a reasonable price, as well as expensive good glass that will rival Canon. Canon makes $100 glass. Nikon does too. Nikon is playing catch-up to Canon in the digital game with price, features, megapixels, multipy factor, and build. Looks like its a stand-off to me. Switch? What for? Time is on my side.
nikonman