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New Canon EOS 70D Announced.

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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,854 moderator
    edited August 21, 2013
    mercphoto wrote: »
    Will the 70D utilitize all the nifty new features of the 600EX-RT flash?

    ...

    According to this page: http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_70d#Specifications
    "External Flash Settings
    (1) External flash function setting

    * Flash firing, E-TTL II auto flash system, flash mode, wireless master, zoom, sync setting, flash exposure compensation, FEB, and clear setting.

    * With the 600EX-RT and ST-E3-RT, radio wireless transmission control is possible.

    (2) External flash C.Fn setting

    * The actual setting options for (1) and (2) will differ depending on the Speedlite used."
    The way I interpret that is that the 70D will have wireless optical master/controller capabilities over a compatible external flash (probably similar to the 60D). If you want wireless radio master/controller capabilities then you will need to use an ST-E3-RT to control the 600EX-RT.
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    David_S85David_S85 Administrators Posts: 13,199 moderator
    edited August 21, 2013
    mercphoto wrote: »
    Will the 70D utilitize all the nifty new features of the 600EX-RT flash?

    Yes, no doubt. I'd bet there will also be a 500EX-RT by announcement time as well.
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    mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2013
    ziggy53 wrote: »
    The way I interpret that is that the 70D will have wireless optical master/controller capabilities over a compatible external flash (probably similar to the 60D). If you want wireless radio master/controller capabilities then you will need to use an ST-E3-RT to control the 600EX-RT.

    My salesperson at Precision Camera just verified this with actual hardware. The 70D will not remotely fire a 600 flash without the wireless controller.
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    BountyphotographerBountyphotographer Registered Users Posts: 413 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2013
    WOW!!!!
    Just seen this post.
    Why would someone buy a 7 D when the 70 D seems to be better
    :photo
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,854 moderator
    edited August 28, 2013
    WOW!!!!
    Just seen this post.
    Why would someone buy a 7 D when the 70 D seems to be better

    Much of the Canon 7D is still superior to the Canon 70D, but the 70D has enough qualities and capabilities that it is likely the best of the xxD Canon bodies yet. Formal testing and user testing will show the true nature of the 70D.

    7D has twice the shot buffer in JPGs and half again more buffer for RAW files. 8fps vs 7 fps. 100 percent viewfinder coverage vs 98 percent. Less shutter lag for the 7D. Much better construction for the 7D. Dual-axis electronic level. PC flash terminal on the 7D. 7D uses CF cards vs SD cards for the 70D. (CF cards are potentially much faster both for buffer transfer and for transfer from card to computer.)

    The replacement for the 7D will probably be better still (... and pricier too).

    It's always important to explore the qualities that are important to your purposes and individual style of shooting. Quite possibly the 70D will match the needs of many Canon shooters.
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    mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2013
    Ziggy, what are the shutter lags for the two cameras? For the price delta, and the fact I'm not doing anything hard core yet still, I'm itching for a 70D instead of a 7D. :)
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,854 moderator
    edited August 28, 2013
    mercphoto wrote: »
    Ziggy, what are the shutter lags for the two cameras? For the price delta, and the fact I'm not doing anything hard core yet still, I'm itching for a 70D instead of a 7D. :)

    According to: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-70D.aspx

    Shutter Lag of 59ms vs 65ms for the 7D vs the 70D. There are also likely differences in mirror blackout and AF lock, but the 70D hasn't been tested yet.

    Also see: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E7D/E7DA6.HTM for more 7D performance specifications. (Again, the 70D hasn't been tested yet.)

    I'm not meaning that the 70D should be considered slow. Likely it's a step up from the 60D. For action and sports, and for active kids, my money is on the 7D in good light and probably more similar than different in lower light.

    Additionally, the 7D shutter is rated for 150,000 actuations, while the recent xxD series shutters are rated at 100,000 actuations (but the 70D has not been rated yet). At B&H they only show a $300 price differential between the two bodies.

    It's just that, all things considered, the 7D shouldn't be counted out as the top of the Canon APS-C/crop-1.6x bodies.
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    mercphotomercphoto Registered Users Posts: 4,550 Major grins
    edited August 28, 2013
    I see what you're saying Ziggy. From what we know today, with no field testing, the 7D is still likely a better sports/action camera, but the big difference with the 70D is the auto-focus abilities while in live-view (for video, for instance).
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    ziggy53ziggy53 Super Moderators Posts: 23,854 moderator
    edited August 29, 2013
    mercphoto wrote: »
    I see what you're saying Ziggy. From what we know today, with no field testing, the 7D is still likely a better sports/action camera, but the big difference with the 70D is the auto-focus abilities while in live-view (for video, for instance).

    That's an excellent assessment. thumb.gif
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    Brett1000Brett1000 Registered Users Posts: 819 Major grins
    edited August 29, 2013
    mercphoto wrote: »
    I'm itching for a 70D instead of a 7D. :)

    the 70D is apparently out in some stores
    Check it out, read the reviews - scratch that itch !
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