At some point you will be forced to migrate, although SM doesnt seem to know when this will happen. Reading the FAQ just says you will be forced over when asked if when we will have to switch. Doesnt really answer the question
Nifty Trick
:soapbox The side-stepping real problems is very frustrating. I love the support for simple how-to type problems, but more complex things seem to be ignored. It makes me want to pull my hair out.
Moving on......
I make use of collecting (and keywords and smart galleries) heavily and was very frustrated when the bulk collect function disappeared in the new SmugMug. After a long back and forth (with plenty of avoiding the real problem from support) I figured out that the old bulk collect tool is really still there and still works!
I stumbled across this by looking at the bulk keyword editor in the new SmugMug. I noticed that this was the same tool as existed in the old SmugMug. That made me think the old collect tool might still exist too. I asked Support to go to the collect tool in the old SmugMug and send me an example URL. After tweaking the URL to use the parameters for my gallery, I found the old collect tool still lives and works!.
With the knowledge that the old collect tool really still does live, and work, I asked Support to add it to the share menu so it could be accessed without tweaking the URL. So far I've only heard from the crickets.
Here are the steps to get to the old collect tool.
1) Go to the new organizer.
2) Go into the gallery you want to collect from.
3) Go to the bulk keyword editor (wrench icon --> Gallery Tools --> Captions & Keywords).
4) Look for the URL part that looks like this "tools.mg?tool=bulkcaption" and change to "picker.mg?tool=collect".
5) Collect away!
Interesting note, galleries created after the cut-over to the new SmugMug don't always seem to appear in the list of destination galleries. If you want to make other galleries show up, you'd have to edit the source of the page. Look for a variable called 'galleryMenu' which lists off each gallery the destination dropdown will display. For me, that was too much work as I didn't really need to see new galleries as I was always collecting into staging galleries for review before I updated the keywords (which is how I published to the smart galleries for finished photos).
I make use of collecting (and keywords and smart galleries) heavily and was very frustrated when the bulk collect function disappeared in the new SmugMug. After a long back and forth (with plenty of avoiding the real problem from support) I figured out that the old bulk collect tool is really still there and still works!
I stumbled across this by looking at the bulk keyword editor in the new SmugMug. I noticed that this was the same tool as existed in the old SmugMug. That made me think the old collect tool might still exist too. I asked Support to go to the collect tool in the old SmugMug and send me an example URL. After tweaking the URL to use the parameters for my gallery, I found the old collect tool still lives and works!.
With the knowledge that the old collect tool really still does live, and work, I asked Support to add it to the share menu so it could be accessed without tweaking the URL. So far I've only heard from the crickets.
Here are the steps to get to the old collect tool.
1) Go to the new organizer.
2) Go into the gallery you want to collect from.
3) Go to the bulk keyword editor (wrench icon --> Gallery Tools --> Captions & Keywords).
4) Look for the URL part that looks like this "tools.mg?tool=bulkcaption" and change to "picker.mg?tool=collect".
5) Collect away!
That's pure genius, and IMHO by far the best ever "first post" on Dgrin. Welcome to the madhouse!
:soapbox The side-stepping real problems is very frustrating. I love the support for simple how-to type problems, but more complex things seem to be ignored. It makes me want to pull my hair out.
Moving on......
I make use of collecting (and keywords and smart galleries) heavily and was very frustrated when the bulk collect function disappeared in the new SmugMug. After a long back and forth (with plenty of avoiding the real problem from support) I figured out that the old bulk collect tool is really still there and still works!
I stumbled across this by looking at the bulk keyword editor in the new SmugMug. I noticed that this was the same tool as existed in the old SmugMug. That made me think the old collect tool might still exist too. I asked Support to go to the collect tool in the old SmugMug and send me an example URL. After tweaking the URL to use the parameters for my gallery, I found the old collect tool still lives and works!.
With the knowledge that the old collect tool really still does live, and work, I asked Support to add it to the share menu so it could be accessed without tweaking the URL. So far I've only heard from the crickets.
Here are the steps to get to the old collect tool.
1) Go to the new organizer.
2) Go into the gallery you want to collect from.
3) Go to the bulk keyword editor (wrench icon --> Gallery Tools --> Captions & Keywords).
4) Look for the URL part that looks like this "tools.mg?tool=bulkcaption" and change to "picker.mg?tool=collect".
5) Collect away!
Interesting note, galleries created after the cut-over to the new SmugMug don't always seem to appear in the list of destination galleries. If you want to make other galleries show up, you'd have to edit the source of the page. Look for a variable called 'galleryMenu' which lists off each gallery the destination dropdown will display. For me, that was too much work as I didn't really need to see new galleries as I was always collecting into staging galleries for review before I updated the keywords (which is how I published to the smart galleries for finished photos).
I just tried what you said, and, You sir, are a god among men! Thank you so much for this!!! You are my new best friend!
Here are the steps to get to the old collect tool.
1) Go to the new organizer.
2) Go into the gallery you want to collect from.
3) Go to the bulk keyword editor (wrench icon --> Gallery Tools --> Captions & Keywords).
4) Look for the URL part that looks like this "tools.mg?tool=bulkcaption" and change to "picker.mg?tool=collect".
5) Collect away!
WOW. It was that easy! And this is not part of the new organizer tools because??????????????
The thing is, this is taking you back to the old "legacy" Smugmug.
I still have this option because I did not "Reveal" my new site, I am still using the new one, with option to go back to old one, which is very useful.
So, most likely this will be removed if Smugmug decides to just thrash the old codes and get rid of legacy version.
My smugmug still under construction & organization with 17,000 images and counting... meanwhile check my Flickr
You're not missing a thing, that does appear be how they implement that feature. I find this to be annoying, clunky, and poorly thought out. I often collect multiple photos from one gallery into others. On legacy it was a breeze to hit the Collect Photos feature, click on all the ones I want, pick a destination, and then hit save. It didn't take a lot of time and was easy. Now, you have to open each image up in the light box and do them one at time! Thanks for making more work for me...
Also, if you deleted a collected photo from the gallery where the copy was placed, it used to just be deleted from that gallery. Now when you delete a photo from the copied to gallery, it also deletes the original image in its gallery! Brilliant! really...
omg!? what? .. that's good to know!!
I do hope they adjust all these issues soon. nobody wants to go backwards in user experience and navigation optimization.
I just discovered to my dismay that using this method will not work if you're trying to collect to a gallery made on the NEW site. They do no appear in the "Display in the following gallery" dropdown menu.
I just discovered to my dismay that using this method will not work if you're trying to collect to a gallery made on the NEW site. They do no appear in the "Display in the following gallery" dropdown menu.
Interesting note, galleries created after the cut-over to the new SmugMug don't always seem to appear in the list of destination galleries. If you want to make other galleries show up, you'd have to edit the source of the page. Look for a variable called 'galleryMenu' which lists off each gallery the destination dropdown will display. For me, that was too much work as I didn't really need to see new galleries as I was always collecting into staging galleries for review before I updated the keywords (which is how I published to the smart galleries for finished photos).
I didn't realize there was even a bulk collecting tool in legacy. I actually hired a company to create one for me, but they stopped halfway through testing it. It seemed to work, but I don't know under what cases it might not. My tool used the API, and I'm not sure if that's working either anymore as a lot of my other applications have stopped.
However, all this being said, if someone wants to try it, PM me and I'll send you the link. It was a true bulk collector--you tell it the source gallery and destination and it collected them all!
Another "vote" to restore bulk collecting.
I, too, was dismayed to discover that the functionality of "bulk collecting" (selecting multiple thumbnails from a single gallery page for inclusion in another gallery) has been overlooked or perhaps intentionally left out of the New Smug format. The process off individually selecting an image to open it, then "share" it, then hit "collect", then choose a destination gallery, etc. etc. is very time consuming.
I haven't tried the "Smart" approach yet (using an otherwise useless keyword...like "CollectThisImage"... which must first be attached to the desired images before "collection" can proceed) but that, too, strikes me as being a far-less-than optimal technique to accomplish the end goal. It may be my only viable option today, but hopefully there's an ongoing effort in place to rectify this sooner rather than later.
Because of a period of high sales and exhibition activity, I've been off dgrin for a while. But in the last week, I needed (again) to do some collecting, and once again i was reminded HOW HORRIBLY INCONVENIENT the collection process is now that bulk collecting is gone.
And evidently fixing this problem is not a high SM priority, since its not yet fixed !
This is one problem that causes me, every time I encounter it, to again consider a switch.
The temporary keyword kludge does not work for me, and frankly, should not be necessary.
Because of a period of high sales and exhibition activity, I've been off dgrin for a while. But in the last week, I needed (again) to do some collecting, and once again i was reminded HOW HORRIBLY INCONVENIENT the collection process is now that bulk collecting is gone.
And evidently fixing this problem is not a high SM priority, since its not yet fixed !
This is one problem that causes me, every time I encounter it, to again consider a switch.
The temporary keyword kludge does not work for me, and frankly, should not be necessary.
Good lord ... this is a nightmare. Is it true that I can no longer copy virtual copies of a photo from gallery to the next?
If I want several photos that I recently took to appear in a different gallery I have to upload them to that gallery?
Am I understanding correctly that this functionality has been removed?
No. It still works. It's under the share menu now. And once you select a gallery to collect photos to, it remembers it until you view a different gallery. As far as I know, it can't be done from the organizer which would have been the obvious place to look for this feature. Can't figure out how they choose what features go where anymore. But at least it's easily accessible.
No. It still works. It's under the share menu now. And once you select a gallery to collect photos to, it remembers it until you view a different gallery. As far as I know, it can't be done from the organizer which would have been the obvious place to look for this feature. Can't figure out how they choose what features go where anymore. But at least it's easily accessible.
I'd like to ammend my last comment. It appears that there is no way to do bulk collecting. The only way to collect photos from one gallery to the next is painstakingly, one at a time. Goodness, I have close to a thousand in my New Photos and Recent Additions gallery that need to be collected in other galleries.
Please, Smugmug, get BULK COLLECTING fixed. This is painful.
I'd like to ammend my last comment. It appears that there is no way to do bulk collecting. The only way to collect photos from one gallery to the next is painstakingly, one at a time.
Not so. There IS a way. There is a working bulk-collecting method detailed in post #33 of this very thread.
Not so. There IS a way. There is a working bulk-collecting method detailed in post #33 of this very thread.
But in #40, Darter2 states that workaround does NOT work with the new SM galleries, only Legacy....
Anyway I too agree to bring this back! How it's set up in the new SM lengthens my workflow instead of streamlining it. Not a good thing at all.... I tried using it for a brief moment and gave up as I had more important things to do with my new site. And it would be quicker just to upload "duplicates" to the galleries I want.
beardedgit: I don't believe this works in new smugmug.
Good lord, what a pain in the butt to have to do this one-by-one, reloading the page after each "collect."
Well I just tried it and it worked a treat. Newly-created gallery of collected pics at http://beardedgit.smugmug.com/Collecting-demo
Are you sure that you're following all of the instructions?
Beardedgit, is there a way to do a bulk copy along the same lines? Thank you.
**Added - Well I just changed picker.mg?tool=collect to picker.mg?tool=copy and it worked. I do wish I could copy an entire Gallery rather than creating another Gallery and then collecting or copying the photos in.
Also, when I was going through the motions of copying/collecting, there is a SmugMug preview folder and my Portfolio folder. I couldn't copy or collect my images in the Portfolio folder, but I could in the Smugmug Preview folder. Are they one in the same? Thanks a bunch.
Can you check your version control? I've just used the link above to install the latest and it's gone down from 0.2.0 to 0.1.9 and it's not displaying as per your screenshot above.
Anyway, it's all sorted now - the download from your latest link did the trick, it's showing 0.2.1 and it's doing what it says on the tin, so thanks for that
One minor thing... is there a chance that the drop-down (the one that drops when clicking the "SM") can be made to close after an option is chosen, please? I'm not familiar with Chrome, is there a setting that I should be using for this?
I left-click the "SM" in the address-bar of the Gallery window, this makes the drop-down... er... drop down.
I left-click "Collect Photos" and then the "collect" window opens in a new tab, and the drop-down stays dropped down in that new tab.
To get rid of the drop-down I have to go back to the original tab and left-click the "SM" in the address-bar again to toggle it off. There's no "SM" in the address-bar of the "collect" page, so I can't toggle it off from there.
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What did Cinderella say when she left the photo shop? "One day my prints will come."
:soapbox The side-stepping real problems is very frustrating. I love the support for simple how-to type problems, but more complex things seem to be ignored. It makes me want to pull my hair out.
Moving on......
I make use of collecting (and keywords and smart galleries) heavily and was very frustrated when the bulk collect function disappeared in the new SmugMug. After a long back and forth (with plenty of avoiding the real problem from support) I figured out that the old bulk collect tool is really still there and still works!
I stumbled across this by looking at the bulk keyword editor in the new SmugMug. I noticed that this was the same tool as existed in the old SmugMug. That made me think the old collect tool might still exist too. I asked Support to go to the collect tool in the old SmugMug and send me an example URL. After tweaking the URL to use the parameters for my gallery, I found the old collect tool still lives and works!.
With the knowledge that the old collect tool really still does live, and work, I asked Support to add it to the share menu so it could be accessed without tweaking the URL. So far I've only heard from the crickets.
Here are the steps to get to the old collect tool.
1) Go to the new organizer.
2) Go into the gallery you want to collect from.
3) Go to the bulk keyword editor (wrench icon --> Gallery Tools --> Captions & Keywords).
4) Look for the URL part that looks like this "tools.mg?tool=bulkcaption" and change to "picker.mg?tool=collect".
5) Collect away!
Interesting note, galleries created after the cut-over to the new SmugMug don't always seem to appear in the list of destination galleries. If you want to make other galleries show up, you'd have to edit the source of the page. Look for a variable called 'galleryMenu' which lists off each gallery the destination dropdown will display. For me, that was too much work as I didn't really need to see new galleries as I was always collecting into staging galleries for review before I updated the keywords (which is how I published to the smart galleries for finished photos).
That's pure genius, and IMHO by far the best ever "first post" on Dgrin. Welcome to the madhouse!
I just tried what you said, and, You sir, are a god among men! Thank you so much for this!!! You are my new best friend!
WOW. It was that easy! And this is not part of the new organizer tools because??????????????
I still have this option because I did not "Reveal" my new site, I am still using the new one, with option to go back to old one, which is very useful.
So, most likely this will be removed if Smugmug decides to just thrash the old codes and get rid of legacy version.
omg!? what? .. that's good to know!!
I do hope they adjust all these issues soon. nobody wants to go backwards in user experience and navigation optimization.
- sirin
www.sirinsamman.com
I just discovered to my dismay that using this method will not work if you're trying to collect to a gallery made on the NEW site. They do no appear in the "Display in the following gallery" dropdown menu.
Bummer...
However, all this being said, if someone wants to try it, PM me and I'll send you the link. It was a true bulk collector--you tell it the source gallery and destination and it collected them all!
Want faster uploading? Vote for FTP!
I, too, was dismayed to discover that the functionality of "bulk collecting" (selecting multiple thumbnails from a single gallery page for inclusion in another gallery) has been overlooked or perhaps intentionally left out of the New Smug format. The process off individually selecting an image to open it, then "share" it, then hit "collect", then choose a destination gallery, etc. etc. is very time consuming.
I haven't tried the "Smart" approach yet (using an otherwise useless keyword...like "CollectThisImage"... which must first be attached to the desired images before "collection" can proceed) but that, too, strikes me as being a far-less-than optimal technique to accomplish the end goal. It may be my only viable option today, but hopefully there's an ongoing effort in place to rectify this sooner rather than later.
And evidently fixing this problem is not a high SM priority, since its not yet fixed !
This is one problem that causes me, every time I encounter it, to again consider a switch.
The temporary keyword kludge does not work for me, and frankly, should not be necessary.
Please . . ..
I'm sorry, I obviously can't help with the bulk collecting problem.
But a recent excellent workaround for keywords can be found here, see especially Lamah's code:
http://www.sherlockphotography.org/Customisations/Keyword-limit
and discussion:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=237620&page=2
If I want several photos that I recently took to appear in a different gallery I have to upload them to that gallery?
Am I understanding correctly that this functionality has been removed?
No. It still works. It's under the share menu now. And once you select a gallery to collect photos to, it remembers it until you view a different gallery. As far as I know, it can't be done from the organizer which would have been the obvious place to look for this feature. Can't figure out how they choose what features go where anymore. But at least it's easily accessible.
Dave
Thank you, Pilotdave.
I'm glad my understanding was imperfect.
Please, Smugmug, get BULK COLLECTING fixed. This is painful.
But in #40, Darter2 states that workaround does NOT work with the new SM galleries, only Legacy....
Anyway I too agree to bring this back! How it's set up in the new SM lengthens my workflow instead of streamlining it. Not a good thing at all.... I tried using it for a brief moment and gave up as I had more important things to do with my new site. And it would be quicker just to upload "duplicates" to the galleries I want.
Good lord, what a pain in the butt to have to do this one-by-one, reloading the page after each "collect."
Are you sure that you're following all of the instructions?
**Added - Well I just changed picker.mg?tool=collect to picker.mg?tool=copy and it worked. I do wish I could copy an entire Gallery rather than creating another Gallery and then collecting or copying the photos in.
Also, when I was going through the motions of copying/collecting, there is a SmugMug preview folder and my Portfolio folder. I couldn't copy or collect my images in the Portfolio folder, but I could in the Smugmug Preview folder. Are they one in the same? Thanks a bunch.
You can install it from this page:
http://www.sherlockphotography.org/Customisations/SmugMug-for-Chrome
Please check out my gallery of customisations for the New SmugMug, more to come!
Can you check your version control? I've just used the link above to install the latest and it's gone down from 0.2.0 to 0.1.9 and it's not displaying as per your screenshot above.
http://chrome.sherlockphotography.org/smugmug/0.2.1/smugmug.crx?1
EDIT: If you were running the 0.2.0 beta you might have to remove that before installing.
Please check out my gallery of customisations for the New SmugMug, more to come!
Anyway, it's all sorted now - the download from your latest link did the trick, it's showing 0.2.1 and it's doing what it says on the tin, so thanks for that
One minor thing... is there a chance that the drop-down (the one that drops when clicking the "SM") can be made to close after an option is chosen, please? I'm not familiar with Chrome, is there a setting that I should be using for this?
Please check out my gallery of customisations for the New SmugMug, more to come!
I left-click the "SM" in the address-bar of the Gallery window, this makes the drop-down... er... drop down.
I left-click "Collect Photos" and then the "collect" window opens in a new tab, and the drop-down stays dropped down in that new tab.
To get rid of the drop-down I have to go back to the original tab and left-click the "SM" in the address-bar again to toggle it off. There's no "SM" in the address-bar of the "collect" page, so I can't toggle it off from there.
Does that make sense?
In the meantime, make sure you don't have any extensions installed which affect the way that tabs open (I guess you probably don't, though).
Please check out my gallery of customisations for the New SmugMug, more to come!