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CSS element problem - need some help please

James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
edited September 14, 2013 in SmugMug Customization
I have used CSS customisation successfully with my site since joining SM.
Admittedly, most of this has been trial and error! (I use WebDev toolbar to identify the elements to be customised).

From various postings, there are recommendations that elements are addressed as:
.sm-user-ui .etc.
There are many examples on the excellent contribution from Aaron:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=237930

If I use this prefix, my CSS does not work. Omitting the prefix allows the CSS to work.

Can anyone explain this behaviour? (I've not seen any postings mentioning this problem).
Where might I be going wrong?
I shall be most grateful for any help from the experts - thank you.

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    basfltbasflt Registered Users Posts: 1,882 Major grins
    edited September 13, 2013
    do you have a virus-scanner ?
    i see very weird stuff on your site

    this is what i see , in several lines
    CQd1PeAAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccl
    

    if its no virus , then you copied something that dont belong in CSS
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    James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited September 13, 2013
    basflt wrote: »
    do you have a virus-scanner ?
    i see very weird stuff on your site

    this is what i see , in several lines
    CQd1PeAAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccl
    
    if its no virus , then you copied something that dont belong in CSS

    I do have a virus scanner. Fully protected by Trend Micro for years - no evidence whatsoever of virus on my setup.

    I think that what you are seeing are chunks of CSS which I copied from:

    http://www.sherlockphotography.org/Customisations/Rounded-corners

    The Sherlock CSS does as expected. I was intrigued at the time by the long strings of code in his CSS.
    You can see them on Sherlock's posting (link above).
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    basfltbasflt Registered Users Posts: 1,882 Major grins
    edited September 13, 2013
    ah , i see

    so , you use webdev
    have you tried using the entire element ?
    sometimes that seem to work better

    example ; #yui_3_8_0_1_1379071052014_179 .sm-user-ui .etc.
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    James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited September 13, 2013
    basflt wrote: »
    ah , i see

    so , you use webdev
    have you tried using the entire element ?
    sometimes that seem to work better

    example ; #yui_3_8_0_1_1379071052014_179 .sm-user-ui .etc.
    Your example does indeed work, BUT, why go to these lengths when the element can be addressed successfully by omitting the ".sm-user-ui" ?
    This does not, however, answer my original question. Why is it that CSS such as:

    /* Lightbox: Add the word "Close" next to the X */
    .sm-user-ui .sm-lightbox-tools .sm-lightbox-close:after {
    content: ' Close';
    font-size: 18px;
    }

    is advocated, yet will only work for me (and perhaps many others) if the initial .sm-user-ui is stripped out?
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    James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited September 13, 2013
    Still need help!
    Any CSS experts able to help? Many thanks.
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    thenickdudethenickdude Registered Users Posts: 1,302 Major grins
    edited September 13, 2013
    Hm, normally .sm-user-ui is applied to the HTML tag, but it doesn't seem to be on your site for some reason. Not really sure how that could happen.
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    James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited September 14, 2013
    Lamah wrote: »
    Hm, normally .sm-user-ui is applied to the HTML tag, but it doesn't seem to be on your site for some reason. Not really sure how that could happen.
    Nicholas, thank you for your response.
    My technical knowledge does not stretch to an understanding of HTML tags and the true nature of .sm-user-ui
    I find this behaviour somewhat worrying; maybe I should not!
    However, having used some of your impressive CSS (without the .sm-user-ui) the desired effect of the CSS is achieved.
    Should I be concerned about this? Might it be due to SM with the move to the new site?
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    mklabovemklabove Registered Users Posts: 18 Big grins
    edited September 14, 2013
    James,

    FWIW, I just tried adding the mod you used in your example (Close after X in Lightbox). As quoted, the mod did not work. But once I deleted .sm-user-ui from the CSS code, it seems to work fine. I haven't a clue as to why, just sharing experience.

    Keith
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    basfltbasflt Registered Users Posts: 1,882 Major grins
    edited September 14, 2013
    probably because the "X" does not belong to the UI ( = User Interface ) but to the system
    if you inspect it with webdev-tool , you dont see .sm-user-ui either
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    James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited September 14, 2013
    mklabove wrote: »
    But once I deleted .sm-user-ui from the CSS code, it seems to work fine. I haven't a clue as to why, just sharing experience.
    Keith, Thank you for that. It is reassuring that I am not alone in this.
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    James LyallJames Lyall Registered Users Posts: 202 Major grins
    edited September 14, 2013
    basflt wrote: »
    probably because the "X" does not belong to the UI ( = User Interface ) but to the system
    if you inspect it with webdev-tool , you dont see .sm-user-ui either
    That may well be so, but, I have experienced the same phenomenon across the board with ALL my CSS code. Any code that has ".sm-user-ui" as a prefix does not work. Interesting!

    The plot thickens!
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    southeasternphotographysoutheasternphotography Registered Users Posts: 647 Major grins
    edited September 14, 2013
    Weird....it works fine for me for multiple things on Mac and Chrome. And THANKS to the OP 'cause I just added the "Close" next to the "X" in the Lightbox! Cool!bowdown.gif
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